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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:04:00 -
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No one seems to know and I am curious, the devs seem to be out now so how about some info on the new chevron.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
227
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:05:00 -
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Yes please
Less QQ more PewPew
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
1024
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:06:00 -
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It means free cupcakes
...with sprinkles
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
401
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:06:00 -
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The mouth of the chevron just tells you what direction they're facing. It probably helps identify friendlies or something
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2163
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:08:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:The mouth of the chevron just tells you what direction they're facing. It probably helps identify friendlies or something
I see red ones, blue ones and green ones. They aren't always cloaked and they don't seem to denote frame size. I thought they were squadless mercs for a while them a merc in my squad was one. I am very interested in what they are supposed to mean or why we have them.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2164
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:10:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:It means free cupcakes
...with sprinkles
I hope they are red sprinkles, they taste better and red is for winners.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
227
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:17:00 -
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My guess from what I've seen... If nobody in ur squad is pointing their gun at them, and they arnt scanned but still manage to get on the radar somehow (passive scan?) Then they are just a chevron not a dot.
Less QQ more PewPew
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
407
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:21:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:bamboo x wrote:The mouth of the chevron just tells you what direction they're facing. It probably helps identify friendlies or something I see red ones, blue ones and green ones. They aren't always cloaked and they don't seem to denote frame size. I thought they were squadless mercs for a while them a merc in my squad was one. I am very interested in what they are supposed to mean or why we have them.
Maybe it has something to do with the suit tier? I've seen them too and have yet to figure this out myself. |

Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
918
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:21:00 -
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It means greater than, silly.
Trolling aside, that's a good question.
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2165
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:25:00 -
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v<>^, I see them in all directions and I don't think they are frame size because I have seen different frame sizes showing up as >. I have had people in my squad beside me, reds across the map and blues doing whatever blues do with them. The only thing that seems to be consistent is that the open end seem to be the direction they are facing.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
1072
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:26:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:No one seems to know and I am curious, the devs seem to be out now so how about some info on the new chevron. Players with a cloak equipment.
Assassination is my thing.
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2165
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:28:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:No one seems to know and I am curious, the devs seem to be out now so how about some info on the new chevron. Players with a cloak equipment.
You mean just equipped but not always activated?
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Ensar Cael
Black Spire Force Recon
96
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:30:00 -
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It denotes the elevation of the character - if they are higher or lower than your current position. |

Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens League of Infamy
794
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:50:00 -
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I am fairly certain it is an arrow. The tip is the direction people are facing, so you can tell if you are sneaking up on people or if your allies are in the same direction as yourself. If you only see that, it means someone is cloaked but you can see their arrow.
"People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
305
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:51:00 -
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I'm fairly certain its ADV/PRO gear ppl
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2170
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:55:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:I'm fairly certain its ADV/PRO gear ppl
The proto heavy in my squad was a green dot and the advanced medium with a sniper running beside me was a >.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
656
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:55:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I am fairly certain it is an arrow. The tip is the direction people are facing, so you can tell if you are sneaking up on people or if your allies are in the same direction as yourself. If you only see that, it means someone is cloaked but you can see their arrow.
Nope.
It's the opposite, the concave side is the direction people are facing. It also doesn't indicate a cloaked enemy.
em ta kool t'nod
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2170
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:56:00 -
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Ensar Cael wrote:It denotes the elevation of the character - if they are higher or lower than your current position.
I have had mercs running beside me that were on the same level as me show up as a >.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
605
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:56:00 -
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lol its a bug i reckon.
STB EU Director since October 2012.
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2170
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:57:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I am fairly certain it is an arrow. The tip is the direction people are facing, so you can tell if you are sneaking up on people or if your allies are in the same direction as yourself. If you only see that, it means someone is cloaked but you can see their arrow. Nope. It's the opposite, the concave side is the direction people are facing. It also doesn't indicate a cloaked enemy.
You can see them scanning with the AS on the overview map and the AS graphic comes out of the open end.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2170
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:58:00 -
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I am not saying any of these are right or wrong because the new chevron could be badly bugged. I want to know what CCP intended it to be.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens League of Infamy
794
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:01:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I am fairly certain it is an arrow. The tip is the direction people are facing, so you can tell if you are sneaking up on people or if your allies are in the same direction as yourself. If you only see that, it means someone is cloaked but you can see their arrow. Nope. It's the opposite, the concave side is the direction people are facing. It also doesn't indicate a cloaked enemy.
Oh, so it is showing their field of vision rather than an arrow point. Neat.
I think it does mean if an ally is cloaked. I have seen a lot of arrows come running by me on the map and have seen cloaked allies.
It sure would be nice if when a patch happened, there could be information given to the players. You know, almost like a list or notes of all changes. Would sure be nice to have explanations on how they CCP changed their game. It is frankly wrong that you have to ask other players to determine on a developer's changed stuff.
"People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2170
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:04:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Yagihige wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I am fairly certain it is an arrow. The tip is the direction people are facing, so you can tell if you are sneaking up on people or if your allies are in the same direction as yourself. If you only see that, it means someone is cloaked but you can see their arrow. Nope. It's the opposite, the concave side is the direction people are facing. It also doesn't indicate a cloaked enemy. Oh, so it is showing their field of vision rather than an arrow point. Neat. I think it does mean if an ally is cloaked. I have seen a lot of arrows come running by me on the map and have seen cloaked allies. It sure would be nice if when a patch happened, there could be information given to the players. You know, almost like a list or notes of all changes. Would sure be nice to have explanations on how they CCP changed their game. It is frankly wrong that you have to ask other players to determine on a developer's changed stuff.
It is fun to speculate on small things that don't really matter like this. Gives us something to do next to QQ.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens League of Infamy
794
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:13:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Yagihige wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I am fairly certain it is an arrow. The tip is the direction people are facing, so you can tell if you are sneaking up on people or if your allies are in the same direction as yourself. If you only see that, it means someone is cloaked but you can see their arrow. Nope. It's the opposite, the concave side is the direction people are facing. It also doesn't indicate a cloaked enemy. Oh, so it is showing their field of vision rather than an arrow point. Neat. I think it does mean if an ally is cloaked. I have seen a lot of arrows come running by me on the map and have seen cloaked allies. It sure would be nice if when a patch happened, there could be information given to the players. You know, almost like a list or notes of all changes. Would sure be nice to have explanations on how they CCP changed their game. It is frankly wrong that you have to ask other players to determine on a developer's changed stuff. It is fun to speculate on small things that don't really matter like this. Gives us something to do next to QQ.
CCP, you magnificent bastards...
"People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
285
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:22:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote: I want to know what CCP intended it to be.
I'm sure once CCP have worked out what they intended it to be they will let us know.
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2172
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:26:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Yagihige wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I am fairly certain it is an arrow. The tip is the direction people are facing, so you can tell if you are sneaking up on people or if your allies are in the same direction as yourself. If you only see that, it means someone is cloaked but you can see their arrow. Nope. It's the opposite, the concave side is the direction people are facing. It also doesn't indicate a cloaked enemy. Oh, so it is showing their field of vision rather than an arrow point. Neat. I think it does mean if an ally is cloaked. I have seen a lot of arrows come running by me on the map and have seen cloaked allies. It sure would be nice if when a patch happened, there could be information given to the players. You know, almost like a list or notes of all changes. Would sure be nice to have explanations on how they CCP changed their game. It is frankly wrong that you have to ask other players to determine on a developer's changed stuff. It is fun to speculate on small things that don't really matter like this. Gives us something to do next to QQ. CCP, you magnificent bastards...
I call them master trolls but the idea is the same.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2645
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:29:00 -
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Elevation would be useful, not sure thats what it is, but it would be easy to test and figure out.
Hail Satan
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2173
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:32:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Elevation would be useful, not sure thats what it is, but it would be easy to test and figure out.
I have had mercs beside me and show up as a >.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1645
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:36:00 -
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On the menu at the beginning of the match it says it is an"infantry tag" as opposed to the regular blueberry symbol.
I thought it meant that you have visual or they are friendlies within your scan radius. I.e. So you can be aware of them and help out more easily if friend or know which reds pose the biggest threat. Maybe they are within your weapon range. Guessing from what I've been seeing.
I'd assume it's so you don't get the blue and red berry symbols jumbled up when they are grouped close by ( also in scan range)
"Stay stealthy scouts."
GÇô Ron Burgundy
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
3347
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:46:00 -
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They're giving you directions to the Honeycomb Hideout
I GÖú Kittens.
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2174
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:51:00 -
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"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
2716
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:57:00 -
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I've already figured out that it's the new suits. The only suits that have that marker are the 3 new heavy and 2 new scout suits.
It can't be cloaks or scanners because sentinels don't have equipment.
Not sure if they were meaning to give this tag to all of the suits but forgot to put it on the old one or what...but all I know is that whenever I see one I know it's either a scout or a heavy.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12573
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:13:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:lol its a bug i reckon.
"It seems you've mistaken me for someone who cares"
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2262
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:15:00 -
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I thought it meant they had a rep tool.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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fragmentedhackslash
Arrogance.
216
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:22:00 -
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I have just found this OP to be the holy grail of stupid bluedot.
No wonder development is very complicated for new player experience, everyone is retarted.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
695
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:27:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:No one seems to know and I am curious, the devs seem to be out now so how about some info on the new chevron.
the new heavy suits and scout suits .
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
656
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:43:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:I have just found this OP to be the holy grail of stupid bluedot.
No wonder development is very complicated for new player experience, everyone is retarted.
Why don't you take a break from insulting people and enlighten us with your genius-like intelligence what the new chevron means?
em ta kool t'nod
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fragmentedhackslash
Arrogance.
216
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:50:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:I have just found this OP to be the holy grail of stupid bluedot.
No wonder development is very complicated for new player experience, everyone is retarted. Why don't you take a break from insulting people and enlighten us with your genius-like intelligence what the new chevron means?
DIRECTION INDICATION
The fact that I had to say this in OP is point.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
656
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:57:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:Yagihige wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:I have just found this OP to be the holy grail of stupid bluedot.
No wonder development is very complicated for new player experience, everyone is retarted. Why don't you take a break from insulting people and enlighten us with your genius-like intelligence what the new chevron means? DIRECTION INDICATION The fact that I had to say this in OP is point.
You're an idiot. If it was to indicate direction, why would some players appear with it and others not? Also, how does it indicate direction when it's not the tip that faces forward, it's the convex side!
What Shayz points out seems to be the most probable explanation so far but i can't see any logical reason for CCP to have different chevrons for the new suits, most likely it's a bug and the new suits aren't displaying the chevron properly.
Now, will you please take your arrogant opinions elsewhere?
em ta kool t'nod
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fragmentedhackslash
Arrogance.
216
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:03:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:Yagihige wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:I have just found this OP to be the holy grail of stupid bluedot.
No wonder development is very complicated for new player experience, everyone is retarted. Why don't you take a break from insulting people and enlighten us with your genius-like intelligence what the new chevron means? DIRECTION INDICATION The fact that I had to say this in OP is point. You're an idiot. If it was to indicate direction, why would some players appear with it and others not? Also, how does it indicate direction when it's not the tip that faces forward, it's the convex side! What Shayz points out seems to be the most probable explanation so far but i can't see any logical reason for CCP to have different chevrons for the new suits, most likely it's a bug and the new suits aren't displaying the chevron properly. Now, will you please take your arrogant opinions elsewhere?
In match right now... indicating direction, relative to your Line Of Sight to the chevroned Merc, occurs on multiple suits...
Hence. DIRECTION INDICATION.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
657
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:14:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:
In match right now... indicating direction, relative to your Line Of Sight to the chevroned Merc, occurs on multiple suits...
Hence. DIRECTION INDICATION.
Facepalm...
It indicating a direction is a byproduct. They could've put a pentagram or a pacman outline or just a straight line and whenever you'd realize which way they were pointing to, they'd all be indicating a direction.
You're ******* daft.
em ta kool t'nod
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fragmentedhackslash
Arrogance.
216
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:23:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:
In match right now... indicating direction, relative to your Line Of Sight to the chevroned Merc, occurs on multiple suits...
Hence. DIRECTION INDICATION.
Facepalm... It indicating a direction is a byproduct. They could've put a pentagram or a pacman outline or just a straight line and whenever you'd realize which way they were pointing to, they'd all be indicating a direction. You're ******* daft.
Hang on mate, the fact that it is a chevron, that is convex to the direction the Merc is facing, and that it is seemingly only occuring on all new suits, and cloaked suits, does not dismiss that it still indicates direction, the fact that it is around backwards makes me ******** daft does it. Rightio.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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byte modal
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:48:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:Yagihige wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:
In match right now... indicating direction, relative to your Line Of Sight to the chevroned Merc, occurs on multiple suits...
Hence. DIRECTION INDICATION.
Facepalm... It indicating a direction is a byproduct. They could've put a pentagram or a pacman outline or just a straight line and whenever you'd realize which way they were pointing to, they'd all be indicating a direction. You're ******* daft. Hang on mate, the fact that it is a chevron, that is convex to the direction the Merc is facing, and that it is seemingly only occuring on all new suits, and cloaked suits, does not dismiss that it still indicates direction, the fact that it is around backwards makes me ******** daft does it. Rightio.
His point, if I take it correctly, is that the directional reference of the chevron is a given. That was noted back on page one. Directional indication is not the question of the thread. Yeah, it's part of it, but that part was easily determined already. The back and forth is in wondering why it exists for seemingly selective players/suits/fittings. Of COURSE it's showing direction, but is it doing this for ALL suits? Just the new ones? Just scanners? Just passive scans? Just LoS? Elevation relative to your position? etc. etc. etc... If it's JUST new suits, then what is the significance of that other than a bug? Is there more to it than that? Are we chasing men in black and crazy lights in the sky? Working as intended?
The last two kats replying to you were trying to discuss beyond the obvious. Throwing insults in the middle of a conversation to state the obvious is the cause of daft. That, btw, sounds like a neat name for a band: Cause of Daft. Hey. CoD! Whatayaknow!?
all the best, =^.^=
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