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The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2549	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:44:00 - [1] - Quote Oh wow appearently heavys are "OP" according to the devs. Why such a sudden change of heart? We are living for months with godmode tanks/derpships but now appearently the heavy seems OP. If they "hotfix" heavys tomorrow then why cant they "hotfix" AV and vehicles the same way? Im sick and tired of CCP saying what is OP or not. How about we just go on like we used to do and wait for the people to complain on the forum? And nerfing heavy suits would make the basic frames literally useless. Instead of cutting HP why not just reduce the skill bonuses ? I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 835	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:45:00 - [2] - Quote Wonder which Dev got slaughtered by a Heavy repeatedly.
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 135	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:46:00 - [3] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Oh wow appearently heavys are "OP" according to the devs. Why such a sudden change of heart? We are living for months with godmode tanks/derpships but now appearently the heavy seems OP. If they "hotfix" heavys tomorrow then why cant they "hotfix" AV and vehicles the same way? Im sick and tired of CCP saying what is OP or not. How about we just go on like we used to do and wait for the people to complain on the forum? And nerfing heavy suits would make the basic frames literally useless. Instead of cutting HP why not just reduce the skill bonuses ? a link from where they said this would be helpful... Assault Gk.0 Gallente Federation Patriot General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1911	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:47:00 - [4] - Quote It might be for the better. Who knows. You know something is wrong when a suit has more health than a vehicle.
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries 2360	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:47:00 - [5] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=150302&find=unread Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down" Proceeds to run three hardeners. Proud member of RND
Zack3000 Smith SilenT AngelS 44	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:50:00 - [6] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Wonder which Dev got slaughtered by a Heavy repeatedly. This has to be the reason. Its crazy if this does get a nerf. i see no problem with heavies. Tanks that is were all the evil lays here in the forums.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 384	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:54:00 - [7] - Quote There is no reason for this. I was running around in the toughest suit in this game, Sentinel ak.0 and guess what killed me? A PROTO RAIL RIFLE. Guess heavies aren't feeling the relief of an across the board rifle nerf CCP really needs to stop being a bunch of corporate string pullers who don't even sit down to play their own game. I laugh at your CR, HMG, SMG, LR, ScR, AR, ScP & IoP
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 996	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:55:00 - [8] - Quote Because vehicles have a lot more variables that affect balance than heavies do. Best PVE idea I've seen. Fixed link.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12538	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:57:00 - [9] - Quote Joel II X wrote: It might be for the better. Who knows. You know something is wrong when a suit has more health than a vehicle. Blame CCP for making Brick tanking the only viable fit. Non brick tanked heavies just melt, hell, even brick tanked they still melt pretty fast since you have to be bad to miss them. I still wish armor repairs weren't the most useless modules since I skilled into them back when they were halfway useful and plates were garbage. Now I'm left out in the cold because lol active reps. Go brick or go home, even MORE so if they nerf heavies. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 2062	Posted - 2014.03.25 21:58:00 - [10] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Because vehicles have a lot more variables that affect balance than heavies do. Which is a reason to not touch them for four months, and to make no mention of touching them at any point in the future? I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]

Calamity Jane II TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 222	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:00:00 - [11] - Quote i like heavies as they are now, very challenging and makes you think before you rush in and try to run and gun. A heavy is ment to be placed on an objective and help hold it as a last man standing. To nerf them now would be a shame :C
Scalesdini BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 418	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:01:00 - [12] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Because vehicles have a lot more variables that affect balance than heavies do. Which is a reason to not touch them for four months, and to make no mention of touching them at any point in the future? You know what's sad, my old pal Disturbingly Bored? Even dedicated scouts and medium suit users are crying foul on this "nerf da heaviez" crap. You know it's BS when that happens.
Patrlck 56 335	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:02:00 - [13] - Quote I still wonder how the hell Dropships are OP. A Militia Tank that costs less than one-fifth of my Python can two shot it with a Militia Railgun. Best hatemail
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 736	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:04:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Tanks will also be getting a hot fix, but we haven't nailed down exactly how it will be presented, hence why it's not in the hotfix post yet. Stay turned, and it will get added once we've decided how we want to do it. They notice that there will be an issue with the eHP values of the heavies and they pinpoint the issue in a matter of days while tanks have been an issue (at the very least) since 2014.01.04 and they still haven't found a solution You can do it if you really want to CCP, I believe in you GÖÑ TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY. -Blaine the Mono a¦áGùía¦á
Francois Sanchez What The French Academie 5	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:06:00 - [15] - Quote Personally I went against heavies and it was ok until I met 3 Ak.0 sentinels with 1600HP!!!! They can take prototype forge gun shots and survive, and that's not right. I think they shouldn't modify the base stats or the skll bonuses, just give them the same number of slots than commandos, I've never understood why sentinels have more slots than commando.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11727	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:09:00 - [16] - Quote They haven't actually changed anything yet. Chill the **** out. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2068	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:09:00 - [17] - Quote I believe, in the same thread, it was mentioned that this "hotfix" may be two weeks or more out.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1104	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:12:00 - [18] - Quote Francois Sanchez wrote: Personally I went against heavies and it was ok until I met 3 Ak.0 sentinels with 1600HP!!!! They can take prototype forge gun shots and survive, and that's not right. I think they shouldn't modify the base stats or the skll bonuses, just give them the same number of slots than commandos, I've never understood why sentinels have more slots than commando. I would have reduced the slots to same as commando (like you mentioned) and cut the lower of the 2 racial weapon resistances. But heavies do need a little nerf. So what I don't understand about this thread, is it QQ about tanks not being nerfed/AV not being buffed yet or QQ about heavies getting nerfed? Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 101	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:16:00 - [19] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Joel II X wrote: It might be for the better. Who knows. You know something is wrong when a suit has more health than a vehicle. Blame CCP for making Brick tanking the only viable fit. Non brick tanked heavies just melt, hell, even brick tanked they still melt pretty fast since you have to be bad to miss them. I still wish armor repairs weren't the most useless modules since I skilled into them back when they were halfway useful and plates were garbage. Now I'm left out in the cold because lol active reps. Go brick or go home, even MORE so if they nerf heavies. I kill the brick tanks ones fast for some reason :o more hp puts my shot gun in try hard mode, not alot of heavies survived me, unless they some how see me cloaked :/ then its bye bye
Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 2065	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:55:00 - [20] - Quote If I might hijack this thread for a moment: Calamity Jane II wrote: i like heavies as they are now, very challenging and makes you think before you rush in and try to run and gun. A heavy is ment to be placed on an objective and help hold it as a last man standing. To nerf them now would be a shame :C HOLY ** I SPY CALAMITY JANE. Are you and Annie Oakley back, terrorizing the general populace with your shotguns? I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord** CCP Logibro]

Tectonic Fusion 1314	Posted - 2014.03.25 22:59:00 - [21] - Quote Patrlck 56 wrote: I still wonder how the hell Dropships are OP. A Militia Tank that costs less than one-fifth of my Python can two shot it with a Militia Railgun. Pythons are balanced. My proto breach forge gun with 2 complex damage mods and prof 3 one hit KOed it back in 1.7 with prof 3. Now they can actually survive forge guns wtf. If the pilot is bad, why should they be able to run away and survive my wrath? Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 104	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:06:00 - [22] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: I still wonder how the hell Dropships are OP. A Militia Tank that costs less than one-fifth of my Python can two shot it with a Militia Railgun. Pythons are balanced. My proto breach forge gun with 2 complex damage mods and prof 3 one hit KOed it back in 1.7 with prof 3. Now they can actually survive forge guns wtf. If the pilot is bad, why should they be able to run away and survive my wrath? I dont even forge anymore :/ ill do with the sicas >.>
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6172	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:07:00 - [23] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Wonder which Dev got slaughtered by a Heavy repeatedly. I'm gonna play the Irony card and say that it was probably Logibro. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Rusty Shallows 1256	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:08:00 - [24] - Quote Joel II X wrote: It might be for the better. Who knows. You know something is wrong when a suit has more health than a vehicle. Vehicles have resistances to most everything in the game. Hardeners while active cover the rest. Please explain how Heavies have more health? Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 737	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:11:00 - [25] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Joel II X wrote: It might be for the better. Who knows. You know something is wrong when a suit has more health than a vehicle. Vehicles have resistances to most everything in the game. Hardeners while active cover the rest. Please explain how Heavies have more health? Brick tanked proto sentinel might achieve similar hp as a unfitted LAV, and then you factor in the resists and LAV has more ehp. TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY. -Blaine the Mono a¦áGùía¦á
Doc Browner Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 206	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:23:00 - [26] - Quote Joel II X wrote: It might be for the better. Who knows. You know something is wrong when a suit has more health than a vehicle. LMAO - when have they EVER made the mistake of making something better. That was so funny I pissed my pants I spill my Blood for Freedom and righteousness
Nosid Katona HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 136	Posted - 2014.03.26 01:34:00 - [27] - Quote Heavies are fine the only problem I have is the HMG it melts all frames in about the same time, that is it. Heavy suits themselves are fine. (I reserve judgement on a tweak to reptools, they might need an overheat or limit on how long/many that can be on someone.) Also it seems like they didn't touch rifles at all; TTK is unchanged and AR is still outclassed at all ranges. Vae Victis Valor Vet, R.I.P MAG
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 851	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:31:00 - [28] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Wonder which Dev got slaughtered by a Heavy repeatedly. Just had a match where EVERYONE WAS A HEAVY WITH AN HMG... DA FUQ!?!? I don't usually like to join the OP nerf it bandwagon, but holy crap I think CCP is right doing a nerf this time around.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 4925	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:32:00 - [29] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Wonder which Dev got slaughtered by a Heavy repeatedly. I wonder if anyone DIDN'T get slaughtered by a Heavy repeatedly today? Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Virtual Riot Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 244	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:35:00 - [30] - Quote bamboo x wrote: There is no reason for this. I was running around in the toughest suit in this game, Sentinel ak.0 and guess what killed me? A PROTO RAIL RIFLE. Guess heavies aren't feeling the relief of an across the board rifle nerf CCP really needs to stop being a bunch of corporate string pullers who don't even sit down to play their own game. Actually Gk.0 Sentinel is the toughest... 0.o Still second toughest though



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