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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:52:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:snipI'll just be running around in my Min Scout trying to be all scouty and stuff while you guys run around abusing the light frames until they get nerfed again snip *chokes*Just the idea of Minjas possibly be getting nerfed is profoundly disturbing. Question: Are these squads coordinated or is it just a flock of Slayers?
I'm not gonna throw out names.
But yes. Coordinated.
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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Louis Domi
Pradox One Proficiency V.
101
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:52:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Ghost.... i might disagree with you on this one. They are made for precision. Except they can be abused to become an assault. Precision? They didn't run a SINGLE presicion mod. Just shields, shields, shields, and armor armor armor.
I run 3 precision mods on mine I see you but with my 2 damps in lows u dont even see me :O |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3676
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:52:00 -
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I called this. 4 highs on a suit with such good base shield stats is a bad idea. For the same reason the Galogi was too much.
No.
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BLUNT SMKR
Ahrendee Mercenaries
42
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:57:00 -
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TeamWork>KDR
I Don't Know Why They Grinning Them Suckers Ain't Winning I Could Tell You That Right From The Beginning
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
826
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:09:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:If this is about scouts being ran as assaults in general, I'm pretty much feeling the same way. If this is only about the ck.0, I have to say that is bullshi t. A 660hp mk.0, shotgunning people in the face, 500+ hp gal scouts all over the place, I'm going to have to say it's unfair to single out just the ck.0 for brick-tanking.
Sure any scout can brick tank, the difference is the cal scout can tank AND have insane regen and good speed. A brick tanked gal/amarr scout will be much slower (especially in strafing and sprinting) and regen will take forever even with the 3 hp/s of the gal scout.
I have already said that the cal scout scares me way more than any amarr/gal scout and here is why.
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axis alpha
Red Star. EoN.
283
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:15:00 -
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Please stop. They took away my assualt cko I'm playing as intended. Complex precision and complex damp. I'm running at 500 HP.
We won't follow the deceiver.
You let this be your warning.
The path of the wretched is burning..
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3742
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:17:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:Please stop. They took away my assualt cko I'm playing as intended. Complex precision and complex damp. I'm running at 500 HP.
Then feel good.
You are not part of the problem.
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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alten hilt
DUST University Ivy League
124
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:31:00 -
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I totally disagree with the idea that every suit should only have one role/fitting. Fitting diversity is a hallmark of New Eden, and allows for creativity and inventiveness.
The only problem is if the role performs better in another role in every way. Scout suits, logis and heavies should all be able to play the assault role with varrying pros and con's.
Perhaps the issue is more that the cal assault bonus doesn't distinguish itself enough.
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BLUNT SMKR
Ahrendee Mercenaries
43
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:32:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:snipI'll just be running around in my Min Scout trying to be all scouty and stuff while you guys run around abusing the light frames until they get nerfed again snip *chokes*Just the idea of Minjas possibly be getting nerfed is profoundly disturbing. Question: Are these squads coordinated or is it just a flock of Slayers? I'm not gonna throw out names.
oh say names so i can call that dude out as being a scrub LOL all scouts just need to run cloak cause that **** aint OP LOL
TeamWork>KDR
I Don't Know Why They Grinning Them Suckers Ain't Winning I Could Tell You That Right From The Beginning
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster
3126
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:34:00 -
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Why is anyone surprised that the scout is being used to assault when assaulting is the only objective in this game?
There are no scout tasks that they can perform. The only thing to do is kill mercs. It's the same problem with tanks, and dropships and everything else. They all give the most WPs when shooting faces.
Fit it to sneak around? Why when that means fewer faces shot per minute vs. tanking HP and speed to run up and kill? |
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1882
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:38:00 -
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The new caldari assault is the gallente scout for me...
Drop it like its hat.
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Asha Starwind
DUST University Ivy League
627
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:45:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Asha Starwind wrote:If this is about scouts being ran as assaults in general, I'm pretty much feeling the same way. If this is only about the ck.0, I have to say that is bullshi t. A 660hp mk.0, shotgunning people in the face, 500+ hp gal scouts all over the place, I'm going to have to say it's unfair to single out just the ck.0 for brick-tanking. Sure any scout can brick tank, the difference is the cal scout can tank AND have insane regen and good speed. A brick tanked gal/amarr scout will be much slower (especially in strafing and sprinting) and regen will take forever even with the 3 hp/s of the gal scout. I have already said that the cal scout scares me way more than any amarr/gal scout and here is why.
I don't see the difference being large enough to downplay brick-tanking the other 3 scouts and singling out the cal scout.
the extremes
Min brick Cal brick Gal brick
Difference in speed is minor. Triage hives gives the armor tankers equivalent regen shields.
Mad Bomber - 50% less profile
Return dumbfire to Swarms
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
135
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:50:00 -
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Driftoward wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Ghost.... i might disagree with you on this one. They are made for precision. To get over 500 shields....they aren't using precision.....just saying.
they basically get a free complex precision module at lvl 5...
i'll be running a stealthy, squishy scout gk.0 and a scout C-1 will detect me and magsec me. this on top of the lag (because everyone is trying out the new stuff) has been my bane more than once.
Assault Gk.0
Gallente Federation Patriot
General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
370
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:51:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:PRO'S: 800+ eHP Sprints at 7.23 Dodges advanced scans Scans everyone around it within ~40m (Exceptions are damped scouts) 50 shield regen a second 3 second dealy, 5.24s depleted (Much better than the Assault) 2 Equipment (If you can fit it)
CON'S: It makes small children cry Apart from that, nothing really. It can be scanned by a Cal scout that uses precision, or by a Gal Logi, but who cares? You're an assault, not a scout. You are probably used to being scanned.
Okay. But you'd better have a RR, Magsec, Bolt, MD, RE or Flaylock otherwise I will still kill you without a doubt.
Also I'm skeptical that it will make the Cal Assault obsolete.
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/index/337/2195 Keep in mind for this fit I was too lazy to max the skills out to show you that it can have the proto weapons and nades.
All he has to do is take cover, regenerate and reload fast, and take more potshots at you. The Cal scout's movement speed is challenged by the Assault's ability to shield tank. It also has more shield HP than you using less modules.
On that note the "assault scout ck.0" in Planetary Conquest is laughable since you will be constantly scanned.
I'm not saying you can't pull it off. But the Assault ck.0 is still the better caldari assault.
I laugh at your CR, HMG, SMG, LR, ScR, AR, ScP & IoP
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
515
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:35:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:axis alpha wrote:Please stop. They took away my assualt cko I'm playing as intended. Complex precision and complex damp. I'm running at 500 HP. Then feel good. You are not part of the problem. I'm surprised there not just running two protoshield regulators with a 2 1/2 sec recharge delay , Ghost the suit is awesome, the minmatar has such horrid pg I kinda glad I stopped at adv on the main so I can use the 200 suits from shinobi, but this guys been preparing for that suit since aug and if their tanking it they only have 25 m scans and if your damped you should be able to sneak up on em since they have no percision mod, and they will hardly have room for a gun, plus if you run a shotgun with proficiency there gonna drop.
My cal has 3 shields, percision and range and a profile damp an adv cloak and my squad can see everything it's so awesome for city maps.
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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