DUST Search - Scout CK.0 is the new Cal Assault.

Cotsy8 wrote:

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Not kidding.

Ran a few rounds today, and sure enough, there is squads running Scout CK.0's with almost 500 shields and over 300 armor.

Yup. High mobility, excellent shield regen and delay, ability to fit cloak, low profile.

~~Why didn't we see this coming?~~ Everyone saw this coming but me

I'll just be running around in my Min Scout trying to be all scouty and stuff while you guys run around abusing the light frames until they get nerfed again Evil

EDIT:
Recreated the fit to the best of my knowledge.

Yeah. That happened.

Makes me die a bit on the inside.

PRO'S:
800+ eHP
Sprints at 7.23
Dodges advanced scans
Scans everyone around it within ~40m (Exceptions are damped scouts)
50 shield regen a second
3 second dealy, 5.24s depleted (Much better than the Assault)
2 Equipment (If you can fit it)

CON'S:
It makes small children cry
Apart from that, nothing really. It can be scanned by a Cal scout that uses precision, or by a Gal Logi, but who cares? You're an assault, not a scout. You are probably used to being scanned.

The Amarr scouts are actually better light infantry lol
They are more dangerous than the Cal Scout.

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Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3724	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:37:00 - [1] - Quote Not kidding. Ran a few rounds today, and sure enough, there is squads running Scout CK.0's with almost 500 shields and over 300 armor. Yup. High mobility, excellent shield regen and delay, ability to fit cloak, low profile. Why didn't we see this coming? I'll just be running around in my Min Scout trying to be all scouty and stuff while you guys run around abusing the light frames until they get nerfed again Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1057	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:38:00 - [2] - Quote Ghost.... i might disagree with you on this one. *Assassination is my thing.*
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3725	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:42:00 - [3] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Ghost.... i might disagree with you on this one. They are made for precision. Except they can be abused to become an assault. Precision? They didn't run a SINGLE presicion mod. Just shields, shields, shields, and armor armor armor. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Driftoward Nos Nothi 224	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:42:00 - [4] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Ghost.... i might disagree with you on this one. They are made for precision. To get over 500 shields....they aren't using precision.....just saying. Driftward alt. Its a secret, shhhh....
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Corporation 399	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:43:00 - [5] - Quote I have to disagree.... The part "why didnt we see that comming?" I saw that comming from Miles away
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2106	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:45:00 - [6] - Quote ccp can't force players to use gear and especially suits as they designed them to be used. This is ccp's biggest flaw (or one of the hundreds) thing is when it comes to suits most players just care about weapon, ehp, movement. Don't worry though CCP will find a way to force us to use suits as intended Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
ReGnYuM Dirt Nap Squad. 2560	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:45:00 - [7] - Quote CCP passive scans a nice touch on my CK.0 Assault... ahhh I mean scout My SP GAP carries me.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3725	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:46:00 - [8] - Quote Free Beers wrote: ccp can't force players to use gear and especially suits as they designed them to be used. This is ccp's biggest flaw (or one of the hundreds) thing is when it comes to suits most players just care about weapon, ehp, movement. Don't worry though CCP will find a way to force us to use suits as intended I hope so. This makes me die a bit on the inside Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
noobsniper the 2nd OLDSPICE. Top Men. 336	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:48:00 - [9] - Quote U high? I have max cores and I cant get my cal scout past 400 not that I would want to anyways just call me communist space king noob MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 822	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:50:00 - [10] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Not kidding. Ran a few rounds today, and sure enough, there is squads running Scout CK.0's with almost 500 shields and over 300 armor. Yup. High mobility, excellent shield regen and delay, ability to fit cloak, low profile. Why didn't we see this coming? I'll just be running around in my Min Scout trying to be all scouty and stuff while you guys run around abusing the light frames until they get nerfed again I saw this coming but nobody wanted to listen lol

xivadd zume Closed For Business For All Mankind 1	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:50:00 - [11] - Quote lol CCP -The basic Amarr light frame requires absolutely no skills to use. You can go straight into proto if you wanted to without skilling into anything. -And the Proto Caldari scout only requires you to be level III in the Caldari Scout skill to use proto. While the 'Neo' version requires you to be all the way to level V. What? Not sure if this is how you wanted it, or if it's a promo thing. Just thought I would point this out.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3726	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:52:00 - [12] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: U high? I have max cores and I cant get my cal scout past 400 not that I would want to anyways I recreated the fit. It totally works. Not for scouts, but for an assault, its a dream come true. Read the pros/cons Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Aria Gomes R 0 N 1 N 320	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:54:00 - [13] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Not kidding. Ran a few rounds today, and sure enough, there is squads running Scout CK.0's with almost 500 shields and over 300 armor. Yup. High mobility, excellent shield regen and delay, ability to fit cloak, low profile. Why didn't we see this coming? I'll just be running around in my Min Scout trying to be all scouty and stuff while you guys run around abusing the light frames until they get nerfed again EDIT: Recreated the fit to the best of my knowledge. Yeah. That happened. Makes me die a bit on the inside. PRO'S: 800+ eHP Sprints at 7.23 Dodges advanced scans Scans everyone around it within ~40m (Exceptions are damped scouts) 50 shield regen a second 3 second dealy, 5.24s depleted (Much better than the Assault) 2 Equipment (If you can fit it) CON'S: It makes small children cry Apart from that, nothing really. It can be scanned by a Cal scout that uses precision, or by a Gal Logi, but who cares? You're an assault, not a scout. You are probably used to being scanned. I haven't seen a Cal Scout yet but I'll be prepared for those tanking bastards. I think the most I have for shields on my Minmatar Scout[ADV] is like 222 shields and that's 1 complex and 1 basic shield extender. Still squishy as ferk. But I like being squishy sometimes.....
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 86	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:56:00 - [14] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Not kidding. Ran a few rounds today, and sure enough, there is squads running Scout CK.0's with almost 500 shields and over 300 armor. Yup. High mobility, excellent shield regen and delay, ability to fit cloak, low profile. ~~Why didn't we see this coming?~~ Everyone saw this coming but me I'll just be running around in my Min Scout trying to be all scouty and stuff while you guys run around abusing the light frames until they get nerfed again EDIT: Recreated the fit to the best of my knowledge. Yeah. That happened. Makes me die a bit on the inside. PRO'S: 800+ eHP Sprints at 7.23 Dodges advanced scans Scans everyone around it within ~40m (Exceptions are damped scouts) 50 shield regen a second 3 second dealy, 5.24s depleted (Much better than the Assault) 2 Equipment (If you can fit it) CON'S: It makes small children cry Apart from that, nothing really. It can be scanned by a Cal scout that uses precision, or by a Gal Logi, but who cares? You're an assault, not a scout. You are probably used to being scanned. The Amarr scouts are actually better light infantry lol They are more dangerous than the Cal Scout.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3730	Posted - 2014.03.25 17:59:00 - [15] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Not kidding. Ran a few rounds today, and sure enough, there is squads running Scout CK.0's with almost 500 shields and over 300 armor. Yup. High mobility, excellent shield regen and delay, ability to fit cloak, low profile. ~~Why didn't we see this coming?~~ Everyone saw this coming but me I'll just be running around in my Min Scout trying to be all scouty and stuff while you guys run around abusing the light frames until they get nerfed again EDIT: Recreated the fit to the best of my knowledge. Yeah. That happened. Makes me die a bit on the inside. PRO'S: 800+ eHP Sprints at 7.23 Dodges advanced scans Scans everyone around it within ~40m (Exceptions are damped scouts) 50 shield regen a second 3 second dealy, 5.24s depleted (Much better than the Assault) 2 Equipment (If you can fit it) CON'S: It makes small children cry Apart from that, nothing really. It can be scanned by a Cal scout that uses precision, or by a Gal Logi, but who cares? You're an assault, not a scout. You are probably used to being scanned. The Amarr scouts are actually better light infantry lol They are more dangerous than the Cal Scout. Can't match the Cal for Situational Awareness though. Unless you have a Proto Damped scout, you will NEVER sneak up on them. They can also tank a full Ion Charge, which made me mad I love the Ion so far, but the seize gets me killed all the time after they tank the shot and turn around. It's not worth it unless they are wounded. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 128	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:00:00 - [16] - Quote I was already at 2, but going proto on my ScR, with all these dual tanked suits and the reduction on fluxes. The ScR will destroy shields.
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 623	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:01:00 - [17] - Quote If this is about scouts being ran as assaults in general, I'm pretty much feeling the same way. If this is only about the ck.0, I have to say that is bullshi t. A 660hp mk.0, shotgunning people in the face, 500+ hp gal scouts all over the place, I'm going to have to say it's unfair to single out just the ck.0 for brick-tanking. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms
Aria Gomes R 0 N 1 N 320	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:02:00 - [18] - Quote Only thing I proto'd was my Min Scout and my Gal Scout is at 3. I would've went level 4 Gal Scout but....I wanted to upgrade some other stuff.
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1059	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:02:00 - [19] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Ghost.... i might disagree with you on this one. They are made for precision. Except they can be abused to become an assault. Precision? They didn't run a SINGLE presicion mod. Just shields, shields, shields, and armor armor armor. You could say the same about minmatar. Although they don't get the bonus. *Assassination is my thing.*
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3730	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:08:00 - [20] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Ghost.... i might disagree with you on this one. They are made for precision. Except they can be abused to become an assault. Precision? They didn't run a SINGLE presicion mod. Just shields, shields, shields, and armor armor armor. You could say the same about minmatar. Although they don't get the bonus. You can, but you have less overall HP, and fitting it is a challenge. If you fit 3x Shields, 2x Armor and a damp. Add in a Boundless, and you will only have 15 PG left over. You will also have no rep, 4 sec delay instead of 3, and 10 less shield recharge a second. On top of lower scan range and precision. Nope. Cal Scout does the Assault much better than the min. You are far better off turning the Min scout into a Speed Stealth Hack fit (With knives) I have knifed so many heavies today Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3731	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:09:00 - [21] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: If this is about scouts being ran as assaults in general, I'm pretty much feeling the same way. If this is only about the ck.0, I have to say that is bullshi t. A 660hp mk.0, shotgunning people in the face, 500+ hp gal scouts all over the place, I'm going to have to say it's unfair to single out just the ck.0 for brick-tanking. This is just the one that stood out to me. Besides, my point was that the new CK.0 is going to be the new Cal Assault. That point still holds true. It does a lot of things better than the assault. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 1088	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:12:00 - [22] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Not kidding. Ran a few rounds today, and sure enough, there is squads running Scout CK.0's with almost 500 shields and over 300 armor. Wait... why did I skill into Cal Heavy??? Silly me, I put together a proto fit with cloak this morning. When I get home this evening, I'm definitely going to be putting together one of those "scout tank" bad boys. Thanks for the tip
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3731	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:13:00 - [23] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Not kidding. Ran a few rounds today, and sure enough, there is squads running Scout CK.0's with almost 500 shields and over 300 armor. Wait... why did I skill into Cal Heavy??? Silly me, I put together a proto fit with cloak this morning. When I get home this evening, I'm definitely going to be putting together one of those "scout tank" bad boys. Thanks for the tip May all of your clones quickly become biomassed Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Rusty Shallows 1244	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:15:00 - [24] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: snip I'll just be running around in my Min Scout trying to be all scouty and stuff while you guys run around abusing the light frames until they get nerfed again snip *chokes* Just the idea of Minjas possibly be getting nerfed is profoundly disturbing. Question: Are these squads coordinated or is it just a flock of Slayers? Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1060	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:17:00 - [25] - Quote Armor tanking? i'd bet on range amps. *Assassination is my thing.*
rithu Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 0	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:27:00 - [26] - Quote Guess u didnt see any amarrs, i tried 4 complex armour plates on the basic amarr scout ( ignoring the pg/cpu ) Now it has 700 hp armour & 200 hp shield, but sadly cant use it because of pg/cpu. nemesis problem Call Me Maybe :)
Zack3000 Smith SilenT AngelS 44	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:28:00 - [27] - Quote Free Beers wrote: ccp can't force players to use gear and especially suits as they designed them to be used. This is ccp's biggest flaw (or one of the hundreds) thing is when it comes to suits most players just care about weapon, ehp, movement. Don't worry though CCP will find a way to force us to use suits as intended This needs to happen. It can if they nerf things so bad it forces you to use the dropsuit to get the bonuses.
pseudosnipre Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 622	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:30:00 - [28] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Ghost.... i might disagree with you on this one. They are made for precision. ...and sodomy. *bites lip Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you. Bittervet turkey says GOML GOML GOML
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 252	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:36:00 - [29] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: [ They can also tank a full Ion Charge, which made me mad ...... This ^....only a small chunk left but by the time I stop having a hand seizure they are gone ...its a bit better than I thought it would be but the ion pistol still sucks
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11699	Posted - 2014.03.25 18:49:00 - [30] - Quote This should have been seen from a mile off. CCP didn't though. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.



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