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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:56:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Fiend, you have maxed out Forges, right? And Heavy suit? Whenever I get my PS3's HDMI port fixed I will let you kill my triple repped Maddy for free of charge using your IAFG. :) I hope it still works with the nerf to damage mods tho. I actually don't have them maxed, proficiency 3 right now. I would but I am just significantly too burnt out of this game. Just venting here while I find something else to play till fanfest lol, I'll be out of your guys' hair soon enough Well, no free isk for you then I guess. :P There's no custom games to even test that out in
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Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
271
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:57:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Fiend, you have maxed out Forges, right? And Heavy suit? Whenever I get my PS3's HDMI port fixed I will let you kill my triple repped Maddy for free of charge using your IAFG. :) I hope it still works with the nerf to damage mods tho. I actually don't have them maxed, proficiency 3 right now. I would but I am just significantly too burnt out of this game. Just venting here while I find something else to play till fanfest lol, I'll be out of your guys' hair soon enough Well, no free isk for you then I guess. :P There's no custom games to even test that out in You can pretty easily get in the same match in FW, and with some luck (with 2 squads) into the same match on the opposite sides in pubs...
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12502
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:58:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Fiend, you have maxed out Forges, right? And Heavy suit? Whenever I get my PS3's HDMI port fixed I will let you kill my triple repped Maddy for free of charge using your IAFG. :) I hope it still works with the nerf to damage mods tho. I actually don't have them maxed, proficiency 3 right now. I would but I am just significantly too burnt out of this game. Just venting here while I find something else to play till fanfest lol, I'll be out of your guys' hair soon enough Well, no free isk for you then I guess. :P There's no custom games to even test that out in You can pretty easily get in the same match in FW, and with some luck (with 2 squads) into the same match on the opposite sides in pubs... Oh yea FW haha, true enough. I barely ever play since I can buy exactly 0 things for my Incubus through Minmatar or Gallente FW
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Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:00:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote: Oh yea FW haha, true enough. I barely ever play since I can buy exactly 0 things for my Incubus through Minmatar or Gallente FW
True dat, and I just realized that there is no ISK payment in FW so I didn't even think before I posted. Haha.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12502
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:02:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: Oh yea FW haha, true enough. I barely ever play since I can buy exactly 0 things for my Incubus through Minmatar or Gallente FW
True dat, and I just realized that there is no ISK payment in FW so I didn't even think before I posted. Haha. If I decide to play more than a couple matches throughout the month I'll look you up and see if we can't get some testing in, I'm honestly curious I just do not have the willpower to turn my ps3 on atm.
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Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1949
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:02:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So you were shooting him then he went out of out of sight from the swarms and away from you by being under somthing and that is broken? Because intelligence is OP.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12502
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:03:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So you were shooting him then he went out of out of sight from the swarms and away from you by being under somthing and that is broken? Because intelligence is OP. Clearly it isn't since solo tanks are at the top of the totem pole
Oh wait, I forgot, you're here on damage control. PROTECT THE CRUTCH!!!
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Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
271
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:05:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: Oh yea FW haha, true enough. I barely ever play since I can buy exactly 0 things for my Incubus through Minmatar or Gallente FW
True dat, and I just realized that there is no ISK payment in FW so I didn't even think before I posted. Haha. If I decide to play more than a couple matches throughout the month I'll look you up and see if we can't get some testing in, I'm honestly curious I just do not have the willpower to turn my ps3 on atm. Well, as soon as I get my PS3 fixed I kinda want to do all sorts of testing too, and I would love if somebody could get it all on video (hint hint Judge, maybe? (I know we have never played together, but I wanna throw away some tanks in the name of balance)).
PS. I'm still loving that hatemail I got from you in 1.3 or 1.2 I think when I was sorta hiding in the redline in my Blaster Maddy (cause our team was losing really, really badly) and had my friend beside me rep me constantly in LLAV and you kept on coming with your LAV and trying to Forge Gun me to death, almost had me a couple of times too.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12502
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:06:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:PS. I'm still loving that hatemail I got from you in 1.3 or 1.2 I think when I was sorta hiding in the redline in my Blaster Maddy (cause our team was losing really, really badly) and had my friend beside me rep me constantly in LLAV and you kept on coming with your LAV and trying to Forge Gun me to death, almost had me a couple of times too. I don't remember that lol, but sounds about right. I rarely send mail to people first haha, I must have been in a particular mood that day lol.
I miss logi vehicles, back when being a pilot meant teamwork and being skilled. Now it's just a joke.
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
272
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:10:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:PS. I'm still loving that hatemail I got from you in 1.3 or 1.2 I think when I was sorta hiding in the redline in my Blaster Maddy (cause our team was losing really, really badly) and had my friend beside me rep me constantly in LLAV and you kept on coming with your LAV and trying to Forge Gun me to death, almost had me a couple of times too. I don't remember that lol, but sounds about right. I rarely send mail to people first haha, I must have been in a particular mood that day lol. I miss logi vehicles, back when being a pilot meant teamwork and being skilled. Now it's just a joke. I will always remember that because I was truely afraid of losing my tank in that match, and let's face it, tanks were not cheap back then and man it was fun being able to use teamwork, now tanks are so ******* dull.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12505
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:12:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:PS. I'm still loving that hatemail I got from you in 1.3 or 1.2 I think when I was sorta hiding in the redline in my Blaster Maddy (cause our team was losing really, really badly) and had my friend beside me rep me constantly in LLAV and you kept on coming with your LAV and trying to Forge Gun me to death, almost had me a couple of times too. I don't remember that lol, but sounds about right. I rarely send mail to people first haha, I must have been in a particular mood that day lol. I miss logi vehicles, back when being a pilot meant teamwork and being skilled. Now it's just a joke. I will always remember that because I was truely afraid of losing my tank in that match, and let's face it, tanks were not cheap back then and man it was fun being able to use teamwork, now tanks are so ******* dull. That was probably shortly after I got out of my Prometheus. I lost almost 100 million ISK trying everything under the sun to make that ship not a 1.4 million ISK coffin.
Sadly, I did not find the magic fit. Apparently neither did CCP, since they just opted to remove it from the game >_< I'm glad I gave you something to remember haha, even if it was at my expense
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
272
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:22:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:PS. I'm still loving that hatemail I got from you in 1.3 or 1.2 I think when I was sorta hiding in the redline in my Blaster Maddy (cause our team was losing really, really badly) and had my friend beside me rep me constantly in LLAV and you kept on coming with your LAV and trying to Forge Gun me to death, almost had me a couple of times too. I don't remember that lol, but sounds about right. I rarely send mail to people first haha, I must have been in a particular mood that day lol. I miss logi vehicles, back when being a pilot meant teamwork and being skilled. Now it's just a joke. I will always remember that because I was truely afraid of losing my tank in that match, and let's face it, tanks were not cheap back then and man it was fun being able to use teamwork, now tanks are so ******* dull. That was probably shortly after I got out of my Prometheus. I lost almost 100 million ISK trying everything under the sun to make that ship not a 1.4 million ISK coffin. Sadly, I did not find the magic fit. Apparently neither did CCP, since they just opted to remove it from the game >_< I'm glad I gave you something to remember haha, even if it was at my expense I also tried almost everything to make my tank immortal with teamwork, and since my friend(s) didn't have skills into vehicles I had to support them with my 300K-ish ISK LLAVs and myself with my 1.3-2.5M ISK tanks and needless to say, I died often and a lot before I finally found something along the lines of acceptable. But I was fortunate enough to have sponsors (which I milked dry).
I have no idea tho how dropships should have been fixed, I flew ADSes yes but I dunno what should have been done to make them more viable. For tanks tho I think CCP only had to fix rendering, give WP for vehicle damage and repair / shield transfer. Stronger Shield Boosters and longer lasting or stronger Shield Active Hardeners (not both). But that's just me.
EDIT: Corrected stuff.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
232
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:28:00 -
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so how many pity points did you get for damaging the tank |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
3091
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:15:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So you were shooting him then he went out of out of sight from the swarms and away from you by being under somthing and that is broken? Because intelligence is OP. Clearly it isn't since solo tanks are at the top of the totem pole Oh wait, I forgot, you're here on damage control. PROTECT THE CRUTCH!!!
You still havnt countered what i said
I assume its correct
The HAV moved out of LOS from the 2 swarms guys so no more damage and hid under something so you cant shoot it and according to you that is broken
So should we remove all cover now so you can always see it and shoot it?
Intelligence is OP
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:17:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So you were shooting him then he went out of out of sight from the swarms and away from you by being under somthing and that is broken? Because intelligence is OP. Clearly it isn't since solo tanks are at the top of the totem pole Oh wait, I forgot, you're here on damage control. PROTECT THE CRUTCH!!! You still havnt countered what i said I assume its correct The HAV moved out of LOS from the 2 swarms guys so no more damage and hid under something so you cant shoot it and according to you that is broken So should we remove all cover now so you can always see it and shoot it? You clearly miss the part where he heals up entirely in seconds flat, so all he has to do is move and he's fine. No activating modules, no watching his window of opportunity, nothing that could even remotely be misconstrued as skill on his part.
Get rid of passive armor reps, bring back activated armor reps.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
3091
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:33:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So you were shooting him then he went out of out of sight from the swarms and away from you by being under somthing and that is broken? Because intelligence is OP. Clearly it isn't since solo tanks are at the top of the totem pole Oh wait, I forgot, you're here on damage control. PROTECT THE CRUTCH!!! You still havnt countered what i said I assume its correct The HAV moved out of LOS from the 2 swarms guys so no more damage and hid under something so you cant shoot it and according to you that is broken So should we remove all cover now so you can always see it and shoot it? You clearly miss the part where he heals up entirely in seconds flat, so all he has to do is move and he's fine. No activating modules, no watching his window of opportunity, nothing that could even remotely be misconstrued as skill on his part. Get rid of passive armor reps, bring back activated armor reps.
So they fit up a tank with a very high rep rate
Has no resistances and doesnt not rep when taking damage only inbetween
Ive tried out the tank it aint that great, any consistant damage can stall the rep rate so speed is key for survival and to kill it but also anything that hits does full damage all of the time
The tank itself is weak but very good for the hit an run but against serious AV it can be popped quite easily
Intelligence is OP
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:36:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So they fit up a tank with a very high rep rate
Has no resistances and doesnt not rep when taking damage only inbetween
Ive tried out the tank it aint that great, any consistant damage can stall the rep rate so speed is key for survival and to kill it but also anything that hits does full damage all of the time
The tank itself is weak but very good for the hit an run but against serious AV it can be popped quite easily Armor reps do not stop healing when taking damage.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
3092
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:45:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So they fit up a tank with a very high rep rate
Has no resistances and doesnt not rep when taking damage only inbetween
Ive tried out the tank it aint that great, any consistant damage can stall the rep rate so speed is key for survival and to kill it but also anything that hits does full damage all of the time
The tank itself is weak but very good for the hit an run but against serious AV it can be popped quite easily Armor reps do not stop healing when taking damage.
They do stall
Ive seen it happen to me, after the damage is done it reps back but generally if you do more damage than it can rep back then it will get popped
This fit isnt used often, i rarely come across it and if i do its easier to pop because of no hardener
Intelligence is OP
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
12516
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:48:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So they fit up a tank with a very high rep rate
Has no resistances and doesnt not rep when taking damage only inbetween
Ive tried out the tank it aint that great, any consistant damage can stall the rep rate so speed is key for survival and to kill it but also anything that hits does full damage all of the time
The tank itself is weak but very good for the hit an run but against serious AV it can be popped quite easily Armor reps do not stop healing when taking damage. They do stall Ive seen it happen to me, after the damage is done it reps back but generally if you do more damage than it can rep back then it will get popped This fit isnt used often, i rarely come across it and if i do its easier to pop because of no hardener Hmm, maybe it's a bug than cuz my Madrugrar always heals even when getting hit by blasters.
I just want activated armor repairs back. This passive crap is dumb. Granted the numbers would have to be worked out, but constant, non penalized healing is a joke no matter the fit. If nothing else they should introduce hefty stacking penalties to vehicle modules.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
3092
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:55:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So they fit up a tank with a very high rep rate
Has no resistances and doesnt not rep when taking damage only inbetween
Ive tried out the tank it aint that great, any consistant damage can stall the rep rate so speed is key for survival and to kill it but also anything that hits does full damage all of the time
The tank itself is weak but very good for the hit an run but against serious AV it can be popped quite easily Armor reps do not stop healing when taking damage. They do stall Ive seen it happen to me, after the damage is done it reps back but generally if you do more damage than it can rep back then it will get popped This fit isnt used often, i rarely come across it and if i do its easier to pop because of no hardener Hmm, maybe it's a bug than cuz my Madrugrar always heals even when getting hit by blasters. I just want activated armor repairs back. This passive crap is dumb. Granted the numbers would have to be worked out, but constant, non penalized healing is a joke no matter the fit. If nothing else they should introduce hefty stacking penalties to vehicle modules.
Blasters is different, it doesnt do enough damage quick enough
Now swarms and FG will put a dent in you generally and a few volleys of swarms can knock you down a bit and sometime you will your rep fight with the damage being dealt
More not less - Add in active as a diff mod which = a diff playstyle
Intelligence is OP
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:22:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Triple Armor rep Madrugars with a NOS.
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HE NEUTED THE CAP OF ACTIVE TANKS?!?!?!? Sorry you triggered my Eve side.
Within the last month I dropped an orbital on one and then pounded it with my Ishukone Assault Forge Gun (1x Complex Damage, Prof 4). It got close but there was plenty of clutter for him to slip behind. Less than a minute later (like 30 seconds) he returned to farming Blue-Dots with his Large Blaster. Occasional trying to shoot me as I ducked in and out of a building. My prototype Forge Gun not even a deterrent.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:51:00 -
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I wont argue that 3 heavy reppers on a tank is not broken. Its really quite frustrating to deal with as a gunnlogi user myself.
However, posting on the forums how infuriating it is that you couldn't kill him from your impossible to target dropship is not going to garner a lot of sympathy.
Until dropships have more counters than just double amp'd redline rails, I honestly don't even think you deserve to kill shield tanks. imho, small turrets from dropships should receive an 80% reduction when firing on HAVs until such a time as they have a real counter.
(yes i'm a little bitter from losing tanks against dropships I can do literally nothing about in my tank) |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:55:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:I wont argue that 3 heavy reppers on a tank is not broken. Its really quite frustrating to deal with as a gunnlogi user myself.
However, posting on the forums how infuriating it is that you couldn't kill him from your impossible to target dropship is not going to garner a lot of sympathy.
Until dropships have more counters than just double amp'd redline rails, I honestly don't even think you deserve to kill shield tanks. imho, small turrets from dropships should receive an 80% reduction when firing on HAVs until such a time as they have a real counter.
(yes i'm a little bitter from losing tanks against dropships I can do literally nothing about in my tank) The main difference being that I've never seen a tank die to MCCs, MCC missiles, null cannons, AV knockback, engine failures, other tanks (dropships, in our case), or cloaked RDVs.
Yes AV is entirely too weak right now, and yes I think HAVs need an anti air turret. I for one have proposed letting rails look up more because we NEED to replace the redline with a mechanic that not only actually works (provides a safe place to spawn and regroup, which most redlines do not do, primarily thanks to rails), but one that doesn't actively stifle balance by ensuring that we will NEVER have larger maps, since if you balance around the redline, the further you push it back with large maps, the further balance is stretched.
Also, I'm in an Incubus, you know, the one that ALL AV does bonus damage to >_<
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I miss logi vehicles, back when being a pilot meant teamwork and being skilled.
+1
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