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MarasdF Loron
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:30:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Well, first mistake is assuming swarms are helping you vs a tank in any way shape or form. I watched his HP dip to next to nothing, before I could even reload he was healed up. Passive reps were the dumbest idea, hands down. It does nothing but reward bad players. So he managed to get away from two swarms and a incubus and he's the bad player? He only got away because his passive reps negated the damage of three other players.
Well that fit cannot survive Forges, Large Rails, Large Missiles, Proxies or Remotes. Has low HP, fast recharge. Also lolswarms.
It can survive Small Rails, Small Blasters, Small Missiles, Large Blasters and lolswarms.
Has 5 weaknesses, 5 strengths, seems like it's the most balanced thing in the game right now.
PLC is a joke, cannot count that as real AV right now.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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MarasdF Loron
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:43:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:
Well that fit cannot survive Forges, Rails, Missiles, Proxies or Remotes. Has low HP, fast recharge. Also lolswarms.
It can survive Small Rails, Small Blasters, Small Missiles, Large Blasters and lolswarms.
Has 5 weaknesses, 5 strengths, seems like it's the most balanced thing in the game right now.
It will only succumb to multiple forges hitting the weakspot at the same time, other wise it heals all damage in between shots. Large railguns work. Large missiles can work depending on if you get the drop. If they're moving they can easily heal enough to keep rolling if one or two shots miss. Proxies and Remotes are equally effective against anything that isn't running 2 or more hardeners at once for the most part, since you won't be placing that many remotes on an even halfway competent tanker. The rest are all essentially useless against this fit. The main issue is that it takes no effort or thought on the part of the operator. We need activated armor reps back.
I've actually tested to see if a single Ishukone Assault Forge Gunner can take my triple repped Maddy down, and guess what? Yes it can. And I kill triple repped Maddies with 5-6 shots with my Missile Gunnlogi, so it seems like I can miss 50% and still kill the Maddy... Proxies and Remotes are equally effective against anything that isn't double or triple hardened, yes, but so are lolswarms, Forges, Large and Small Rails, so what's your point?
I admit for the most part it takes no effort but it takes thought to know what you can do battle with and what you cannot. Because whatever kills you, most likely kills you almost instantly.
EDIT: Fixed spelling... lol
EDIT2: Fun fact, 1v1 triple repped Blaster Maddy fight never ends. Neither can kill the other one.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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MarasdF Loron
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:49:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:
Well that fit cannot survive Forges, Rails, Missiles, Proxies or Remotes. Has low HP, fast recharge. Also lolswarms.
It can survive Small Rails, Small Blasters, Small Missiles, Large Blasters and lolswarms.
Has 5 weaknesses, 5 strengths, seems like it's the most balanced thing in the game right now.
It will only succumb to multiple forges hitting the weakspot at the same time, other wise it heals all damage in between shots. Large railguns work. Large missiles can work depending on if you get the drop. If they're moving they can easily heal enough to keep rolling if one or two shots miss. Proxies and Remotes are equally effective against anything that isn't running 2 or more hardeners at once for the most part, since you won't be placing that many remotes on an even halfway competent tanker. The rest are all essentially useless against this fit. The main issue is that it takes no effort or thought on the part of the operator. We need activated armor reps back. I've actually tested to see if a single Ishukone Assault Forge Gunner can take my triple repped Maddy down, and guess what? Yes it can. And I kill triple repped Maddies with 5-6 shots with my Missile Gunnlogi, so it seems like I can miss 50% and still kill the Maddy... Proxies and Remotes are equally effective against anything that isn't double or triple hardened, yes, but so are lolswarms, Forges, Large and Small Rails, so what's your point? I admit for the most part it takes no effort but it takes thought to know what you can do battle with and what you cannot. Because whatever kills you, most likely kills you almost instantly. EDIT: Fixed spelling... lol I want to watch the Forge gun one. What is the absolute max they can deal to the weak spot? They have to have maxed out skills and be hitting that weak spot, otherwise you heal just shy of 1,500 hp in between each of their shots.
Fiend, you have maxed out Forges, right? And Heavy suit? Whenever I get my PS3's HDMI port fixed I will let you kill my triple repped Maddy for free of charge using your IAFG. :) I hope it still works with the nerf to damage mods tho.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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MarasdF Loron
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:54:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Fiend, you have maxed out Forges, right? And Heavy suit? Whenever I get my PS3's HDMI port fixed I will let you kill my triple repped Maddy for free of charge using your IAFG. :) I hope it still works with the nerf to damage mods tho. I actually don't have them maxed, proficiency 3 right now. I would but I am just significantly too burnt out of this game. Just venting here while I find something else to play till fanfest lol, I'll be out of your guys' hair soon enough 
Well, no free isk for you then I guess. :P
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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MarasdF Loron
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:57:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Fiend, you have maxed out Forges, right? And Heavy suit? Whenever I get my PS3's HDMI port fixed I will let you kill my triple repped Maddy for free of charge using your IAFG. :) I hope it still works with the nerf to damage mods tho. I actually don't have them maxed, proficiency 3 right now. I would but I am just significantly too burnt out of this game. Just venting here while I find something else to play till fanfest lol, I'll be out of your guys' hair soon enough Well, no free isk for you then I guess. :P There's no custom games to even test that out in 
You can pretty easily get in the same match in FW, and with some luck (with 2 squads) into the same match on the opposite sides in pubs...
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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MarasdF Loron
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:00:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:
Oh yea FW haha, true enough. I barely ever play since I can buy exactly 0 things for my Incubus through Minmatar or Gallente FW
True dat, and I just realized that there is no ISK payment in FW so I didn't even think before I posted. Haha.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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MarasdF Loron
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:05:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:
Oh yea FW haha, true enough. I barely ever play since I can buy exactly 0 things for my Incubus through Minmatar or Gallente FW
True dat, and I just realized that there is no ISK payment in FW so I didn't even think before I posted. Haha. If I decide to play more than a couple matches throughout the month I'll look you up and see if we can't get some testing in, I'm honestly curious I just do not have the willpower to turn my ps3 on atm.
Well, as soon as I get my PS3 fixed I kinda want to do all sorts of testing too, and I would love if somebody could get it all on video (hint hint Judge, maybe? (I know we have never played together, but I wanna throw away some tanks in the name of balance)).
PS. I'm still loving that hatemail I got from you in 1.3 or 1.2 I think when I was sorta hiding in the redline in my Blaster Maddy (cause our team was losing really, really badly) and had my friend beside me rep me constantly in LLAV and you kept on coming with your LAV and trying to Forge Gun me to death, almost had me a couple of times too. 
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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MarasdF Loron
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:10:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:PS. I'm still loving that hatemail I got from you in 1.3 or 1.2 I think when I was sorta hiding in the redline in my Blaster Maddy (cause our team was losing really, really badly) and had my friend beside me rep me constantly in LLAV and you kept on coming with your LAV and trying to Forge Gun me to death, almost had me a couple of times too. I don't remember that lol, but sounds about right. I rarely send mail to people first haha, I must have been in a particular mood that day lol. I miss logi vehicles, back when being a pilot meant teamwork and being skilled. Now it's just a joke.
I will always remember that because I was truely afraid of losing my tank in that match, and let's face it, tanks were not cheap back then and man it was fun being able to use teamwork, now tanks are so ******* dull. 
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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MarasdF Loron
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:22:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:PS. I'm still loving that hatemail I got from you in 1.3 or 1.2 I think when I was sorta hiding in the redline in my Blaster Maddy (cause our team was losing really, really badly) and had my friend beside me rep me constantly in LLAV and you kept on coming with your LAV and trying to Forge Gun me to death, almost had me a couple of times too. I don't remember that lol, but sounds about right. I rarely send mail to people first haha, I must have been in a particular mood that day lol. I miss logi vehicles, back when being a pilot meant teamwork and being skilled. Now it's just a joke. I will always remember that because I was truely afraid of losing my tank in that match, and let's face it, tanks were not cheap back then and man it was fun being able to use teamwork, now tanks are so ******* dull. That was probably shortly after I got out of my Prometheus. I lost almost 100 million ISK trying everything under the sun to make that ship not a 1.4 million ISK coffin. Sadly, I did not find the magic fit. Apparently neither did CCP, since they just opted to remove it from the game >_< I'm glad I gave you something to remember haha, even if it was at my expense 
I also tried almost everything to make my tank immortal with teamwork, and since my friend(s) didn't have skills into vehicles I had to support them with my 300K-ish ISK LLAVs and myself with my 1.3-2.5M ISK tanks and needless to say, I died often and a lot before I finally found something along the lines of acceptable. But I was fortunate enough to have sponsors (which I milked dry).
I have no idea tho how dropships should have been fixed, I flew ADSes yes but I dunno what should have been done to make them more viable. For tanks tho I think CCP only had to fix rendering, give WP for vehicle damage and repair / shield transfer. Stronger Shield Boosters and longer lasting or stronger Shield Active Hardeners (not both). But that's just me.
EDIT: Corrected stuff.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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