the cloaking device isnt meant to kill though. it was simply made to be able to hide virtually anywhere.

we need extra help because it takes less than a second to kill a true scout (not a tanked scout scrub).



in a scout's case, our skill is more based on brains than button smashing. it takes brains to know when to actually use a cloaking device, and when to come out and attack. there is alot of brains and outmaneuvering involved.




why isnt it like that right now? because a majority of people skilled into scout for the cloaking device due to he respec, but they have no idea how to properly run a scout.

dont get me wrong though, i am grateful for the respec. i would have never been able to swap from Amarr sentinel/commando to Gallente sentinel/commando without it.

you shoot them...or if they get fluxed.

Unless the cloaking device is a force field as well, you should decloak if you take any damage to shields or armor.

Negative. Cloaks do not need to decloak if they get shot. That would make them useless. Spray a min smg in that direction, and cloak gone?

Furthermore, they are visible when they are running.

Just a little situational awareness goes a long way. Bombard objectives beforehand. Watch for the silhouettes.

Thats easy

How about when at an enemy installation or its just been hacked and you arent sure where might be so you aim at the installation and everything is red.

If the lighting isnt right it could be very hard to see.

The whole purpose was for scouts to be HARD to detect and tract. Nearly impossible, if someone specializes.
That was the WHOLE point.

you shoot them...or if they get fluxed.

Unless the cloaking device is a force field as well, you should decloak if you take any damage to shields or armor.

you shoot them...or if they get fluxed.

Unless the cloaking device is a force field as well, you should decloak if you take any damage to shields or armor.

The main issue I see is the cloak still being up when they shoot the first round. A couple of seconds delay so you can't decloak in front of someone and expect to gun them down because you shoot before the cloak actually visually drops would be a good thing. It wouldn't impact decloaking behind someone since they couldn't see you anyway.

So what is your argument against being exposed when the jig is up? You have a cloak and and a low signature. You are now hard to detect and track due to specialization. Congratulations. So if I see you because you moved when you shouldn't have or took a calculated risk that didn't pay off and I shoot you, why should you continue to reap the benefit of stealth?

Sorry but situational awareness goes both ways. Don't tell people to get good when the reason you are getting shot at is because you failed.

I currently and actively play two games that use cloaking, Killzone and Titanfall. Neither of those games allow a cloaked player who takes incoming fire to remain cloaked and their cloak times are a lot shorter and those characters are a lot more Squishy than even a Scout in Dust 514.

this isnt your typcal FPS.

im against it because you can be seen anyways even while not moving. then the heavies are also using the HMG to 'scout check,' meaning they just shoot in a relaitve area they think a scout is. the bullet spread is so massive, they just need to point in the general direction...

I don't mind the cloak not dropping when shot. You can still see the shield impact effect so any rapid fire weapon sprayed in a circle could alert you to the scouts presence.
The EMP from a flux should affect it, but we have hardened circuitry nowadays so its not a big deal imho.
I have a problem with those people playing at higher levels of brightness being able to see the cloaks under any circumstance. I have no idea how you could change this but it still seem like a dirty move.

I strongly agree with them decloaking from a Flux, it just makes sense since it's designed to break small electronics and damage stronger ones.

Idk if this has been said maybe since a cloak is an equipment and a person gets fluxed it destroys the cloaking equipment permanently until that clone dies or makes it not work for a while

Omg...thank you...plus 10000. The cloak in this game is ridiculous. If you have an adv or proto cloak, you can be invisible, indefinitely. You cloak, kill, and cloak again. The cloak should act like vehicle modules. Once, you deactivate, therenshiuld be a cooldown to where you can't use them at all.

One point that I'd like to make is people are always saying that its easy to spot a cloak and kill them, etc....get situatiomal awareness, etc. But I think that these guys are applying it to scrubs that would make everything seems underpowered.

The cloak is NOT a force field....you shouldn't be able to cloak if you took damage.

I would agree to that....only thing is, shields regen after a while. So, in order for it to be fair...fluxes would have to have the same effect on shields or they would allow the cloak to be used after a long cooldown time.

you shoot them...or if they get fluxed.

Unless the cloaking device is a force field as well, you should decloak if you take any damage to shields or armor.

Ok...well, let me explain to you guys what happens.

I shoot at a guy, he takes damage. Then he cloaks himself. I shoot at him..even flux. He walks behind me and 2 shots me in the back with a shotgun.

So, what you guys are saying isn't the best argument.

I mean....seriously...what is your argument for being able to take damage and not decloak? I mean, a flux grenade should
Disrupt all electrical equipment, right? This shouldn't even be debatable. You take damage, you decloak...period!