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Athena Dare
Revenge of the Fallen IMPS
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:35:00 -
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So CPM Kane Spero now rules over Molden Heath in Dust, tell me how CCP doesn't see this as a conflict of interests? CPM's get advanced Intel about the future of the game the rest of us do not get. Yet CCP doesn't see it as a problem that somehow Kane has effectively become king of Molden Health. You can no longer own a district in Molden heath if Kane doesn't want you to. He controls the best corps in the game AE, TP, NS, ERA and others. He can get them to take any district in the game. If doesn't get your district the first time he can keep you locked down until he finally beats you. Now his plans are to keep, farm and hold all of Molden Heath except PFC (Oddeluf) and Thunder-dome (Bosena) which will net him and his friends in excess of 2 Billion ISK a Day(DUST ISK)
Now the average player doesn't know the details of the road map for Dust 514, if we did I suppose it would kind of like being able to see the first 4 numbers of the next lottery. There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. NTM somehow make corps like Ancient Exiles, Team Players, and Nyain San do his bidding, all the while somehow making it seem like they are in charge. |
straya fox
Sad Panda Solutions
268
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:38:00 -
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I found it interesting that 1 week before the changes to PC were posted by CCP, members of Spero's corp were advertising in general chat to sell districts for 200 mil. Even offering to teach people how to lock them after they had purchased.
I'm not saying he breached the NDA, just saying i found it interesting. |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
3684
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:39:00 -
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Well, he is a player as well as a CPM, so-
Wait, what intel did he get that impacted his decision making? Serious question. And on a sidenote, I don't think CCP is bothered by elite corporations teaming up with each other. I could be wrong but history says that CCP wants the players to make the changes instead of them intervening, unless it was something dirty involved.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
3165
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:41:00 -
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im interested in knowing how knowing the future of the game helps him control the present.
Is knowing where the Heavy Laser is in development help him take over districts currently?
Selling Templar BPO's Last of the BPO's(Click link)
I feed off your tears
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries
4902
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:43:00 -
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Athena Dare wrote:So CPM Kane Spero now rules over Molden Heath in Dust, tell me how CCP doesn't see this as a conflict of interests? CPM's get advanced Intel about the future of the game the rest of us do not get. Yet CCP doesn't see it as a problem that somehow Kane has effectively become king of Molden Health. You can no longer own a district in Molden heath if Kane doesn't want you to. He controls the best corps in the game AE, TP, NS, ERA and others. He can get them to take any district in the game. If doesn't get your district the first time he can keep you locked down until he finally beats you. Now his plans are to keep, farm and hold all of Molden Heath except PFC (Oddeluf) and Thunder-dome (Bosena) which will net him and his friends in excess of 2 Billion ISK a Day(DUST ISK)
Now the average player doesn't know the details of the road map for Dust 514, if we did I suppose it would kind of like being able to see the first 4 numbers of the next lottery. There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. NTM somehow make corps like Ancient Exiles, Team Players, and Nyain San do his bidding, all the while somehow making it seem like they are in charge.
It's funny how so many people don't understand anything.
Did you see Mittens get kicked off the CSM when his coalition was controlling nearly all of null-sec? What you do in the game has nothing to do with you in reality.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Athena Dare
Revenge of the Fallen IMPS
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:45:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:im interested in knowing how knowing the future of the game helps him control the present.
Is knowing where the Heavy Laser is in development help him take over districts currently?
No but knowing exactly how PC 2.0 will work in the future, can get him a large amount isk being the guy the controls dust.
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Nocturnal Soul
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2492
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:45:00 -
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Honestly IMO If you have any possession of power that's connected to CCP you should be in the middle class of the community.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Hauker Due
Pro Hic Immortalis
46
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:46:00 -
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art imitating life |
Athena Dare
Revenge of the Fallen IMPS
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:47:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:
Did you see Mittens get kicked off the CSM when his coalition was controlling nearly all of null-sec? What you do in the game has nothing to do with you in reality.
Wow Eve references from long ago in a dust forum |
Oswald Rehnquist
1310
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:49:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:im interested in knowing how knowing the future of the game helps him control the present.
Is knowing where the Heavy Laser is in development help him take over districts currently?
I think the second post covers that, the selling off of districts before the PC changes was most likely due to insider information which he received, due to knowing that CCP is making changes to make it harder / less profitable to defend / lock districts. It is what it is, its not my top concern at any rate.
The blueing up is entirely due to the fact that PC became harder to block people out of it with the changes, so instead of getting challenged / losing districts, they have opted to blue up as a line of defense instead since they couldn't depend on the old mechanics to protect them to the same extent.
@OP
Kane isn't breaking any rules so I'd think you'd have a hard case to get some one kicked off based on that alone.
Below 28 dB
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1511
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:51:00 -
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I don't like the Blue Donut and I'm fairly sure I hate it more than the majority of this thread but let's not jump the gun here. He's a player. Jenza was a CPM member when she did the same thing with Cronos. Didn't make it bad then, doesn't make it bad now.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1887
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:53:00 -
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This class of CPMs we've had for DUST have been a joke as far as the position. But perhaps it is because they are put in an impossible position.
Is it a conflict of interest? Of course.
People in the large alliances get all the patch notes and information about any update well in advance from leaked CPM preparation. They don't tell you this because:
1. It breaks the rules of the game.
2. They don't want others to have any advantage as well.
Why do you think Nyain San has millions of SP wrapped up in FoTMs the very day they are released? When I was in the large alliances, I was told exact information about the upcoming dropsuits, the mauler event, etc... It was factual and 100% accurate every time, because it came directly from the source.
Is Kane Spero on of these leaks? Probably, but it can't be proven by CCP. I'm sure most of the CPMs leak information since the playerbase is so knitted together.
What surprises me about Kane Spero, is how he managed to be a CPM, in charge of PFC, MH, run a DUST-EvE plex service, become the richest player in the game, etc... That took a lot of planning and manipulating on his part, and the community went along with it.
Is he a bad person? Who knows, who cares. Is he a good player? Not in DUST 514 is he any good, not even as an FC. But he found his way to the top, and will do whatever it takes to stay there. Everyone in New Eden is nothing but a resource to him.
My personal dealing with him, he has been nothing but polite, professional, and man of his word.
I ain't got time for dat sh!t
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Athena Dare
Revenge of the Fallen IMPS
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:56:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:
@OP
Kane isn't breaking any rules so I'd think you'd have a hard case to get some one kicked off based on that alone.
I am not looking to get anyone "kicked off" But looking to change the way CCP can just grant some people overwhelming power over the game, which in this case breaks PC once again. Now PC has a king and you are only allowed to live on 2 planets, if you are not among his elite. |
Athena Dare
Revenge of the Fallen IMPS
19
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:01:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:I don't like the Blue Donut and I'm fairly sure I hate it more than the majority of this thread but let's not jump the gun here. He's a player. Jenza was a CPM member when she did the same thing with Chronos. Didn't make it bad then, doesn't make it bad now.
Yeah it kind of did make it bad then. Jenza used her advanced knowledge to give her alliance an advantage. Not quite as large a problem as this is, but still gave one person an advantage no one else had.
PC IS BROKEN now again, and if Kane had his way he will farm most of PC until 2.0 comes out then he will profit from being the premiere provider of dust mercs to eve corps that want the resources Dust districts provide! |
JL3Eleven
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
1765
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:06:00 -
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This thread is full of facepalm.
Forums>Dead and dying game
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mollerz
2865
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:07:00 -
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8213 wrote:
Is he a bad person? Who knows, who cares. Is he a good player? Not in DUST 514 is he any good, not even as an FC. But he found his way to the top, and will do whatever it takes to stay there. Everyone in New Eden is nothing but a resource to him.
At the end of the day- On his death bed, I hope this isn't the sum of all his achievements. You;d have to waste a whole lot of youth to put this much effort into a game.
Hope he never has to fully realize that 
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Athena Dare
Revenge of the Fallen IMPS
19
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:07:00 -
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Athena Dare wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:I don't like the Blue Donut and I'm fairly sure I hate it more than the majority of this thread but let's not jump the gun here. He's a player. Jenza was a CPM member when she did the same thing with Chronos. Didn't make it bad then, doesn't make it bad now. Yeah it kind of did make it bad then. Jenza used her advanced knowledge to give her alliance an advantage. Not quite as large a problem as this is, but still gave one person an advantage no one else had. I mean we didn't even vote for these people. PC IS BROKEN now again, and if Kane had his way he will farm most of PC until 2.0 comes out then he will profit from being the premiere provider of dust mercs to eve corps that want the resources Dust districts provide!
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mollerz
2865
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:13:00 -
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Jenza also made it her mission to hunt down Dust 514 footage to have it removed from the internet. Not because of anything other than "If I can't do it, no one can".. yep. She wasn't technically wrong, but she is also the same person you don't invite to birthday parties. Or any parties.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Xander Mercy
Dem Durrty Boyz
Dirt Nap Squad.
348
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:18:00 -
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im a merc i don't care who i work for as long as i get paid.
I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1326
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:18:00 -
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Information is the most valuable commodity in the world, and when used correctly... well, need I say more?
The Sinwarden
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
5926
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:21:00 -
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Implying someone else isn't plotting his downfall as we speak.
Never forget
More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
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noobsniper the 2nd
OLDSPICE.
Top Men.
328
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:35:00 -
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FACE-DESK some people man some people...
just call me communist space king noob
MAG vet raven ftw
Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
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Oswald Rehnquist
1310
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:38:00 -
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Athena Dare wrote:
Yeah it kind of did make it bad then. Jenza used her advanced knowledge to give her alliance an advantage. Not quite as large a problem as this is, but still gave one person an advantage no one else had.
PC IS BROKEN now again, and if Kane had his way he will farm most of PC until 2.0 comes out then he will profit from being the premiere provider of dust mercs to eve corps that want the resources Dust districts provide!
Athena Dare wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:
@OP
Kane isn't breaking any rules so I'd think you'd have a hard case to get some one kicked off based on that alone.
I am not looking to get anyone "kicked off" But looking to change the way CCP can just grant some people overwhelming power over the game, which in this case breaks PC once again. Now PC has a king and you are only allowed to live on 2 planets, if you are not among his elite.
I think your concern is not without merit, its very possible that the mechanical problems in PC can be a ticking time bomb, but there is still the implicit elephant in the room.
You are giving us:
Postulate 1: CPM Insider Information is Powerful
Postulate 2: It is being used by CPMs to dominate/abuse New Eden
Result: Not good for the health of game
Solution: ........
While the solution isn't stated, it would obviously be to break one of the two postulates, which is innately understood by everyone in the thread.
Interestingly enough, CPMs are being left out of more and more information about several of changes being introduced to Dust.
Below 28 dB
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
924
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Posted - 2014.03.25 06:01:00 -
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I kinda liked PC better when CRONOS and EoN was around. When they were on the opposite sides there was no chance of playing farmville. Now look at it. Corps are getting so much ISK there is no cure to it anymore, they can't be stopped now.
Gunlogi
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1869
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Posted - 2014.03.25 06:17:00 -
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This is why Pyrex, me and many others are against the Cpm in general.
It happened in EVE...
Drop it like its hat.
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Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
84
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Posted - 2014.03.25 06:20:00 -
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Athena Dare wrote:So CPM Kane Spero now rules over Molden Heath in Dust, tell me how CCP doesn't see this as a conflict of interests? CPM's get advanced Intel about the future of the game the rest of us do not get. Yet CCP doesn't see it as a problem that somehow Kane has effectively become king of Molden Health. You can no longer own a district in Molden heath if Kane doesn't want you to. He controls the best corps in the game AE, TP, NS, ERA and others. He can get them to take any district in the game. If doesn't get your district the first time he can keep you locked down until he finally beats you. Now his plans are to keep, farm and hold all of Molden Heath except PFC (Oddeluf) and Thunder-dome (Bosena) which will net him and his friends in excess of 2 Billion ISK a Day(DUST ISK)
Now the average player doesn't know the details of the road map for Dust 514, if we did I suppose it would kind of like being able to see the first 4 numbers of the next lottery. There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. NTM somehow make corps like Ancient Exiles, Team Players, and Nyain San do his bidding, all the while somehow making it seem like they are in charge.
Ok, so trash his name in forum daily. See that he isn't voted in... Yea he owns half of the dust corps, so thst likely won't happen, well better luck next time. Unless you somehow get a few youtubers to agree with you, the majority (myself included) doesn't know about this stuff, doesn't care either.
I pick up the controller, play a few games solo until I get bored and stop playing. If spero wants to be king ****, he can if he wants to put effort into it.
Maybe you should e-mail CCP and not post in a forum they don't often check. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
4776
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Posted - 2014.03.25 06:25:00 -
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I hope you know, kain doesn't exactly "control" the corps.
Also, the only issue I see, is the amount of isk being generated. I mean... Isn't the amount of isk we (DNS) are generating on EVE levels? Surely that'd be kinda broken once the open market comes out...
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
13675
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Posted - 2014.03.25 06:31:00 -
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/popcorns
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
638
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Posted - 2014.03.25 06:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:/popcorns
/passes a soda
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2547
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Posted - 2014.03.25 06:39:00 -
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Secret information about upcoming changes in the future? I wish i would know about stuff beforehand so i could post that crap stright on the forums. And im not happy with blueing up with every twatt in the game.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
13675
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Posted - 2014.03.25 06:42:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:/popcorns /passes a soda
/nods in thanks as he watches the speculation devour itself
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
Caps and Mercs
115
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Posted - 2014.03.25 07:00:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:/popcorns /passes a soda /nods in thanks as he watches the speculation devour itself
/brought pizza
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
279
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Posted - 2014.03.25 07:59:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Secret information about upcoming changes in the future? I wish i would know about stuff beforehand so i could post that crap stright on the forums. And im not happy with blueing up with every twatt in the game.
I'm fairly sure you can leave your corp if you're not happy about how it's being run or who your friends are.
But tbh Dark I find it funny that you're now sucking on the IMPs teat. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
650
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Posted - 2014.03.25 08:31:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:/popcorns /passes a soda /nods in thanks as he watches the speculation devour itself
/eats popcorn
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2694
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Posted - 2014.03.25 08:38:00 -
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I dont like the bluedonute its bad for business. Plus its only a matter of time before another allince rises up. Take our place and then be worse than the last guy
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
405
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Posted - 2014.03.25 08:38:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Jenza also made it her mission to hunt down Dust 514 footage to have it removed from the internet. Not because of anything other than "If I can't do it, no one can".. yep. She wasn't technically wrong, but she is also the same person you don't invite to birthday parties. Or any parties.
unless you want someone to laugh at for their terrible choice of pants.
i want proxie chat so i can run around in the gall heavy saying GET IN MAH BELLY. nah just kidding trade window please=)
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Athena Dare
Revenge of the Fallen IMPS
25
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Posted - 2014.03.25 13:51:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I dont like the bluedonute its bad for business. Plus its only a matter of time before another allince rises up. Take our place and then be worse than the last guy
There is no one else and if someone else comes along Kane will just buy them off like he did RND & FA. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3086
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Posted - 2014.03.25 13:59:00 -
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Nice tinfoil hat OP but i do agree with you
Happened with jenza and the french guy in lolcronos
Happens with kain just before PC 2.0 kicks in
They get the info early then abuse it as much as possible when its put into the game
Intelligence is OP
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1880
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Posted - 2014.03.25 14:02:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I hope you know, kain doesn't exactly "control" the corps.
Also, the only issue I see, is the amount of isk being generated. I mean... Isn't the amount of isk we (DNS) are generating on EVE levels? Surely that'd be kinda broken once the open market comes out...
CCP need to remove your ISK. Its the only way.
Drop it like its hat.
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GeneralButtNaked
Amarr Templars
823
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Posted - 2014.03.25 14:11:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:This thread is full of facepalm.
Edit: AE and NS own 49% of MH with out Kain lol.
Kain claims that he invented AE, and that everyone is in his circle.
Everyone should read the CPM white paper. There are some interesting conditions.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
1777
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Posted - 2014.03.25 14:33:00 -
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Athena Dare wrote:There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did.
Every decision he made was logical based on the public information at the time, and a common sense assumption any 13-year-old could've made about what's coming next. CCP takes it very seriously, and has an entire Internal Affairs department dedicated to ensuring people under NDA with CCP, both employees and CSM/CPM, do not use insider knowledge to advance their in-game status.
Back this accusation with evidence, please.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
910
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Posted - 2014.03.25 14:45:00 -
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straya fox wrote:I found it interesting that 1 week before the changes to PC were posted by CCP, members of Spero's corp were advertising in general chat to sell districts for 200 mil. Even offering to teach people how to lock them after they had purchased.
I'm not saying he breached the NDA, just saying i found it interesting.
Curious timing at the very least.
Hmmmmm.....
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
1777
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Posted - 2014.03.25 15:05:00 -
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Note that CCP Nullarbor had explicitly stated in public IRC that he was going to look at district locking while he was in Shanghai multiple weeks before an official forum post on it appeared. A wide variety of people were well aware it was incoming.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2214
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Posted - 2014.03.25 15:14:00 -
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Cotsy8 wrote:Athena Dare wrote:So CPM Kane Spero now rules over Molden Heath in Dust, tell me how CCP doesn't see this as a conflict of interests? CPM's get advanced Intel about the future of the game the rest of us do not get. Yet CCP doesn't see it as a problem that somehow Kane has effectively become king of Molden Health. You can no longer own a district in Molden heath if Kane doesn't want you to. He controls the best corps in the game AE, TP, NS, ERA and others. He can get them to take any district in the game. If doesn't get your district the first time he can keep you locked down until he finally beats you. Now his plans are to keep, farm and hold all of Molden Heath except PFC (Oddeluf) and Thunder-dome (Bosena) which will net him and his friends in excess of 2 Billion ISK a Day(DUST ISK)
Now the average player doesn't know the details of the road map for Dust 514, if we did I suppose it would kind of like being able to see the first 4 numbers of the next lottery. There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. NTM somehow make corps like Ancient Exiles, Team Players, and Nyain San do his bidding, all the while somehow making it seem like they are in charge. Ok, so trash his name in forum daily. See that he isn't voted in... Yea he owns half of the dust corps, so thst likely won't happen, well better luck next time. Unless you somehow get a few youtubers to agree with you, the majority (myself included) doesn't know about this stuff, doesn't care either. I pick up the controller, play a few games solo until I get bored and stop playing. If spero wants to be king ****, he can if he wants to put effort into it. Maybe you should e-mail CCP and not post in a forum they don't often check.
your assuming their will be a vote.
fan fest is coming up and so far their has been no sign of one.
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SgtDoughnut
DUST University
Ivy League
534
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Posted - 2014.03.25 15:17:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Athena Dare wrote:So CPM Kane Spero now rules over Molden Heath in Dust, tell me how CCP doesn't see this as a conflict of interests? CPM's get advanced Intel about the future of the game the rest of us do not get. Yet CCP doesn't see it as a problem that somehow Kane has effectively become king of Molden Health. You can no longer own a district in Molden heath if Kane doesn't want you to. He controls the best corps in the game AE, TP, NS, ERA and others. He can get them to take any district in the game. If doesn't get your district the first time he can keep you locked down until he finally beats you. Now his plans are to keep, farm and hold all of Molden Heath except PFC (Oddeluf) and Thunder-dome (Bosena) which will net him and his friends in excess of 2 Billion ISK a Day(DUST ISK)
Now the average player doesn't know the details of the road map for Dust 514, if we did I suppose it would kind of like being able to see the first 4 numbers of the next lottery. There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. NTM somehow make corps like Ancient Exiles, Team Players, and Nyain San do his bidding, all the while somehow making it seem like they are in charge. It's funny how so many people don't understand anything. Did you see Mittens get kicked off the CSM when his coalition was controlling nearly all of null-sec? What you do in the game has nothing to do with you in reality.
Nope mittens didn't get kicked out until he decided to put a guys real name up in fanfest right in front of the sony investors, god that was funny as hell. |
SgtDoughnut
DUST University
Ivy League
534
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Posted - 2014.03.25 15:21:00 -
[46] - Quote
DJINN Marauder wrote:I hope you know, kain doesn't exactly "control" the corps.
Also, the only issue I see, is the amount of isk being generated. I mean... Isn't the amount of isk we (DNS) are generating on EVE levels? Surely that'd be kinda broken once the open market comes out...
From what i understand you most of the district lockers are generating isk at a level 4 mission runner level, its nothing obscene but will need to be filtered out once the open market comes about. Your top brass will overinflate prices just to get a few kicks, or course any eve mogul could easily put your top earners to shame in under an hour.
Margin trading in jita is good money afterall. |
Hollow M Ling
Pro Hic Immortalis
41
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Posted - 2014.03.25 15:27:00 -
[47] - Quote
So this is what happened in the last few months... |
Athena Dare
Revenge of the Fallen IMPS
39
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Posted - 2014.03.26 02:19:00 -
[48] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:Athena Dare wrote:There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. Every decision he made was logical based on the public information at the time, and a common sense assumption any 13-year-old could've made about what's coming next. CCP takes it very seriously, and has an entire Internal Affairs department dedicated to ensuring people under NDA with CCP, both employees and CSM/CPM, do not use insider knowledge to advance their in-game status. Back this accusation with evidence, please.
No Accusation was made, the statement was "Isn't it a conflict of interests for a CPM to rules all of PC"
IT IS A CONFLICT OF INTERESTS!
IT DOES GIVE HIM AN ADVANTAGE OVER THE AVERAGE PLAYER!
These are simple facts. |
DootDoot
Da Short Buss
RISE of LEGION
317
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Posted - 2014.03.26 02:23:00 -
[49] - Quote
Athena Dare wrote:So CPM Kane Spero now rules over Molden Heath in Dust, tell me how CCP doesn't see this as a conflict of interests? CPM's get advanced Intel about the future of the game the rest of us do not get. Yet CCP doesn't see it as a problem that somehow Kane has effectively become king of Molden Health. You can no longer own a district in Molden heath if Kane doesn't want you to. He controls the best corps in the game AE, TP, NS, ERA and others. He can get them to take any district in the game. If doesn't get your district the first time he can keep you locked down until he finally beats you. Now his plans are to keep, farm and hold all of Molden Heath except PFC (Oddeluf) and Thunder-dome (Bosena) which will net him and his friends in excess of 2 Billion ISK a Day(DUST ISK)
Now the average player doesn't know the details of the road map for Dust 514, if we did I suppose it would kind of like being able to see the first 4 numbers of the next lottery. There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. NTM somehow make corps like Ancient Exiles, Team Players, and Nyain San do his bidding, all the while somehow making it seem like they are in charge.
Being a bad player or one not invested into DUST.... Or one that doesn't Meta game is not part of a CPM's job description.. CPM can play the game as they see fit. Thank god.
Having a CPM that is Good at DUST... is exactly the right candidate as long as that doesn't get in the way of the CPM duties that have been committed to. |
Athena Dare
Revenge of the Fallen IMPS
39
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Posted - 2014.03.26 04:51:00 -
[50] - Quote
DootDoot wrote:
Being a bad player or one not invested into DUST.... Or one that doesn't Meta game is not part of a CPM's job description.. CPM can play the game as they see fit. Thank god.
Having a CPM that is Good at DUST... is exactly the right candidate as long as that doesn't get in the way of the CPM duties that have been committed to.
It's has nothing to do with Kanes skill at dust (which if you talked to anyone that plays with him knows his skill at actually playing Dust is, not good) It has to do with the single question does he get an unfair advantage knowing what he knows, that the rest of us do not. |
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ANON Illuminati
612
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Posted - 2014.03.26 04:57:00 -
[51] - Quote
wow so many people making **** up to prove a point that never was there..
dude kain doesnt control anyone but his own corp because he is ceo obviously. TP controls TP
RND controls RND
AE controls AE
NS controls NS
and so on.
Why make stuff up to make someone look bad just because your starving for isk? if you want it come take it from us otherwise stick to pubs or FW. Yall trippin.
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HiddenBrother
139
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:00:00 -
[52] - Quote
I laughed when all the Corp's became afraid of eachother, and decided to ally.
Only Corp I tip my hat to? What the French.
They are literally fighting the entirety of Molden Heath.
Total badasses, and they doesn't afraid of no one.
Caldari.
Fear, and admiration.
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
621
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:02:00 -
[53] - Quote
Soraya Xel wrote:Athena Dare wrote:There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. Every decision he made was logical based on the public information at the time, and a common sense assumption any 13-year-old could've made about what's coming next. CCP takes it very seriously, and has an entire Internal Affairs department dedicated to ensuring people under NDA with CCP, both employees and CSM/CPM, do not use insider knowledge to advance their in-game status. Back this accusation with evidence, please.
There's easy ways to get past the NDA.
Off the top of my head :
Kane - "This is what we are doing with MH now guys, trust me, i know whats up."
Kane - "Shh, don't tell anyone i told you."
It's not like CCP has a squad of ninjas stalking the CPMs.
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Arioch d'Elassar
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:21:00 -
[54] - Quote
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1880
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:27:00 -
[55] - Quote
Burn PC as a whole and remove all wealth (asset and liquid) that it has created.
To do otherwise is to risk the cancer of PC metastasizing throughout other systems within the game.
Do it CCP.
Kill the ill-thought out game mode that is only really played by a small percentage of your player base and rework it from the ground up.
Give us the glorious new PC system that is totally unfettered by the mistakes of its previous iteration.
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1648
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:29:00 -
[56] - Quote
Yes, the same thing exists with EVE too. Mitani or one of his surrogates is always in charge of or one of the members of the CSM.
Funny how that works out isn't it. Of course the biggest out of game group is going to come into a game and take it over with cronyism.
Oh well, I don't own CCP. Would be a lot different.
"Stay stealthy scouts."
GÇô Ron Burgundy
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1218
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:30:00 -
[57] - Quote
Alaika Arbosa wrote:Burn PC as a whole and remove all wealth (asset and liquid) that it has created.
To do otherwise is to risk the cancer of PC metastasizing throughout other systems within the game.
Do it CCP.
Kill the ill-thought out game mode that is only really played by a small percentage of your player base and rework it from the ground up.
Give us the glorious new PC system that is totally unfettered by the mistakes of its previous iteration.
nothing will happen from CCP shanghai side as long as people buy boosters. they are too busy counting their money. |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1893
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:31:00 -
[58] - Quote
It-¦s not like Kain hypothetically has to share this info with everyone of his allies, he just need to share it with the management of the alliances/corps. And make them shut up about it.
In real life, this is called corruption. You cannot be a shareholder in a company while being a stakeholder at the company-¦s customer.
Drop it like its hat.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1648
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:31:00 -
[59] - Quote
ANON Illuminati wrote:wow so many people making **** up to prove a point that never was there..
dude kain doesnt control anyone but his own corp because he is ceo obviously. TP controls TP
RND controls RND
AE controls AE
NS controls NS
and so on.
Why make stuff up to make someone look bad just because your starving for isk? if you want it come take it from us otherwise stick to pubs or FW. Yall trippin.
Lol, this guy doesn't know how EVE works. The game is merely a proxy.
"Stay stealthy scouts."
GÇô Ron Burgundy
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1880
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:35:00 -
[60] - Quote
Jack McReady wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Burn PC as a whole and remove all wealth (asset and liquid) that it has created.
To do otherwise is to risk the cancer of PC metastasizing throughout other systems within the game.
Do it CCP.
Kill the ill-thought out game mode that is only really played by a small percentage of your player base and rework it from the ground up.
Give us the glorious new PC system that is totally unfettered by the mistakes of its previous iteration. nothing will happen from CCP shanghai side as long as people buy boosters. they are too busy counting their money.
Well, they need to start thinking about longevity and stop worrying about a small segment of their actual playerbase.
I'm curious to know just how often PC gets sustainable fresh meat that aren't alts of already active PC players.
If something isn't done to actually balance that ****, there won't be a vehicle for their "micro"transactions since the game will die.
I wonder if they'll still be happy with their "micro"transaction profits when that happens.......
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
3049
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Posted - 2014.03.27 08:58:00 -
[61] - Quote
mollerz wrote:Jenza also made it her mission to hunt down Dust 514 footage to have it removed from the internet. Not because of anything other than "If I can't do it, no one can".. yep. She wasn't technically wrong, but she is also the same person you don't invite to birthday parties. Or any parties.
NO.
I NEVER gave my alliance any information that was under NDA. I take the NDA very ******* seriously hence why i went after those NDA videos.
Check your facts. dont just make up bullshit that is convenient for you.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
934
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:30:00 -
[62] - Quote
SgtDoughnut wrote:
Nope mittens didn't get kicked out until he decided to put a guys real name up in fanfest right in front of the sony investors, god that was funny as hell.
Yea it was hilarious. Especially when he gave out the guys real name so everyone could harass him into killing himself. Freaking comedy gold right there.
I get what Wyvern was saying but that whole situation was so far beyond anything even remotely acceptable there's no real way to relate it to anything else. I can't think of anything that even comes close to being as despicable as what his drunk ass did so it doesn't make a very good point of reference.
And also this entire thread is incredibly idiotic and little more than a bunch of unsubstantiated bullshit claims and pure stupidity. The only reason a small group (not one person) can "own" Molden Heath right now is because no one else gives a **** about PC. There's no real competition because the only people messing with it were just ISK farming and no one was fighting.
The only evidence I've heard so far is someone started selling off districts or something in the weeks leading up to the exploit being removed. Which should have been a surprise to absolutely no one. CCP has said several times it was an unintentional mechanic and would be fixed. Guessing that it would be removed with the next major patch doesn't require any insider information, just common sense.
Ya'll dumb. I don't wanna be mean but ya'll just dumb. Real dumb. Eatin crayons dumb.
Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
6444
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:14:00 -
[63] - Quote
If you believe you have evidence of a CPM member abusing their position, file a support ticket for the attention of CCP Logibro with the evidence and I'll take it from there.
CCP Logibro // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
(a¦á_a¦á)
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
763
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:19:00 -
[64] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:If you believe you have evidence of a CPM member abusing their position, file a support ticket for the attention of CCP Logibro with the evidence and I'll take it from there.
don't trust Logibro, he's one of them
TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY.
- Blaine the Mono
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DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
246
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:21:00 -
[65] - Quote
mollerz wrote:Jenza also made it her mission to hunt down Dust 514 footage to have it removed from the internet. Not because of anything other than "If I can't do it, no one can".. yep. She wasn't technically wrong, but she is also the same person you don't invite to birthday parties. Or any parties.
It was because of the NDA, did it myself, no point in showing the sorry state of Dust in the closed beta.
Also the "take all the districts" action was widely known before release and anyone could have done it. Heck, even I knew of it! |
noob cavman
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
956
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:22:00 -
[66] - Quote
Can confirm logibro is one of us 
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
We are the blue waffle!
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
2456
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:27:00 -
[67] - Quote
noob cavman wrote:Can confirm logibro is one of us
Where's Woodward and Bernstein when you need them!
Video: I don't always fight dropships, but when I do...
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noob cavman
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
956
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:37:00 -
[68] - Quote
Gö¼Gö¦Gö¼Gö¦Göñ(n+Ñ_Gö£Gö¼Gö¦Gö¼Gö¦
They are also one of us.
for we are the blue waffle.
a tempting tasty dyed sweet dish.
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
We are the blue waffle!
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Patrick57
6205
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:48:00 -
[69] - Quote
TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Implying someone else isn't plotting his downfall as we speak.
The problem is there aren't any good corps that can challenge two whole alliances and come out on top. |
ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
371
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:50:00 -
[70] - Quote
DeeJay One wrote:mollerz wrote:Jenza also made it her mission to hunt down Dust 514 footage to have it removed from the internet. Not because of anything other than "If I can't do it, no one can".. yep. She wasn't technically wrong, but she is also the same person you don't invite to birthday parties. Or any parties. It was because of the NDA, did it myself, no point in showing the sorry state of Dust in the closed beta. Also the "take all the districts" action was widely known before release and anyone could have done it. Heck, even I knew of it!
That "Sorry state of dust in closed beta" is a matter of opinion. I for one think that dust was a fun game back in the beta builds. It could even be argued it was a better game than what we have now however that is totally a matter of opinion and CCP did have an NDA out on stuff.
Still, white knighting is gay in this regard. |
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Shruikan Iceeye
0uter.Heaven
178
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:56:00 -
[71] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:
I could be wrong but history says that CCP wants the players to make the changes instead of them intervening, unless it was something dirty involved.
Hmm something dirty... Like 1.Nyain San lagging out PC battles with equipment spam? ( Asian corps lag the game up even without EQ btw) or 2. AE abusing the melee glitch while hit detection was still bad? ( two people could run into a point and CLEAR IT OUT without even fireing their ARs)
These two corps (who have just joined together) own about. 50% of Molden Heath BY THE WAY
Pass The A/1 Sauce
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2766
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:57:00 -
[72] - Quote
Patrick57 wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Implying someone else isn't plotting his downfall as we speak. The problem is there aren't any good corps that can challenge two whole alliances and come out on top.
Here is a tip you dont go after the allinace you go after the man holding it together right now kain is buddy buddy with the corp leaders. so you need disrupt his realshionship with them, easly done by targeting their egos,
Second get a 16 man uber squad and start targeting kains clinets any kind of disruption breaks his business model.
Etc etc its standard stuff. In fact im happy to advise up and coming corps how to build strongly i just dont run corps because i dont have the time
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Patrick57
6207
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:00:00 -
[73] - Quote
steadyhand amarr wrote:Patrick57 wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Implying someone else isn't plotting his downfall as we speak. The problem is there aren't any good corps that can challenge two whole alliances and come out on top. Here is a tip you dont go after the allinace you go after the man holding it together right now kain is buddy buddy with the corp leaders. so you need disrupt his realshionship with them, easly done by targeting their egos, Second get a 16 man uber squad and start targeting kains clinets any kind of disruption breaks his business model. Etc etc its standard stuff. In fact im happy to advise up and coming corps how to build strongly i just dont run corps because i dont have the time
It still can't happen. FA had no other option but to join NF because they were severely overwhelmed by all the opposing corps they had to fight. |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2768
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:02:00 -
[74] - Quote
Then thats poor deplomacy on FAs part, another option join NA get friendly with other corps and breakaway with them, its not going to happen over night i recon it would take 5-6 months of work
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
765
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:07:00 -
[75] - Quote
noob cavman wrote:Can confirm logibro is one of us
I KNEW IT!
But this leaves a very important question unanswered, how deep does this corruption really go?
Is Rouge just a puppet?
Was Blam "let go" because hew knew too much?
Who's behind all this?
What Wolfman has to do with this? How about Saberwing?
TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY.
- Blaine the Mono
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noob cavman
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
960
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:21:00 -
[76] - Quote
All can be answered.
But do you dare go down this rabbit hole
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
We are the blue waffle!
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
766
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:23:00 -
[77] - Quote
noob cavman wrote:All can be answered. But do you dare go down this rabbit hole
For justice!
TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY.
- Blaine the Mono
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843 Epidemic
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
644
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:31:00 -
[78] - Quote
jenza aranda wrote:mollerz wrote:Jenza also made it her mission to hunt down Dust 514 footage to have it removed from the internet. Not because of anything other than "If I can't do it, no one can".. yep. She wasn't technically wrong, but she is also the same person you don't invite to birthday parties. Or any parties. NO. I NEVER gave my alliance any information that was under NDA. I take the NDA very ******* seriously hence why i went after those NDA videos. Check your facts. dont just make up bullshit that is convenient for you.
Twin brother of 843-BANE
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noob cavman
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
961
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:31:00 -
[79] - Quote
Bamm was indeed let go for knowing to much and not enjoying the taste of waffles.
rouge is a hitman, he seems so nice and helpful till order's come in and then you end up witha shovel making jelly of you soft squishy bits.
Wolfman is the guardian, the sentinel watching over our slave labour camps making waffle plushes in various shades of blue.
Saberwing.... hail our master
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
We are the blue waffle!
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
766
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:37:00 -
[80] - Quote
noob cavman wrote:Bamm was indeed let go for knowing to much and not enjoying the taste of waffles.
rouge is a hitman, he seems so nice and helpful till order's come in and then you end up witha shovel making jelly of you soft squishy bits.
Wolfman is the guardian, the sentinel watching over our slave labour camps making waffle plushes in various shades of blue.
Saberwing.... hail our master
I ******* knew it, though even in my wildest dreams was it this vile and corrupt
you people disgust me
TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY.
- Blaine the Mono
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noob cavman
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
963
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:40:00 -
[81] - Quote
Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:noob cavman wrote:Bamm was indeed let go for knowing to much and not enjoying the taste of waffles.
rouge is a hitman, he seems so nice and helpful till order's come in and then you end up witha shovel making jelly of you soft squishy bits.
Wolfman is the guardian, the sentinel watching over our slave labour camps making waffle plushes in various shades of blue.
Saberwing.... hail our master I ******* knew it, though even in my wildest dreams was it this vile and corrupt you people disgust me
and I even liked you...*sigh*
Rouge.... if you would be so kind.
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
We are the blue waffle!
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
374
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:44:00 -
[82] - Quote
Wow you terrible terrible people. Look at all the old ANONS jumping on the escrow bandwagon. I like you guys but damn what the **** you pussies! |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
768
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:45:00 -
[83] - Quote
noob cavman wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:noob cavman wrote:Bamm was indeed let go for knowing to much and not enjoying the taste of waffles.
rouge is a hitman, he seems so nice and helpful till order's come in and then you end up witha shovel making jelly of you soft squishy bits.
Wolfman is the guardian, the sentinel watching over our slave labour camps making waffle plushes in various shades of blue.
Saberwing.... hail our master I ******* knew it, though even in my wildest dreams was it this vile and corrupt you people disgust me and I even liked you...*sigh* Rouge.... if you would be so kind.
and only a week to my retirement 
TOUGH TITTY, SAID THE KITTY.
- Blaine the Mono
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meri jin
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
720
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:45:00 -
[84] - Quote
Athena Dare wrote:So CPM Kane Spero now rules over Molden Heath in Dust, tell me how CCP doesn't see this as a conflict of interests? CPM's get advanced Intel about the future of the game the rest of us do not get. Yet CCP doesn't see it as a problem that somehow Kane has effectively become king of Molden Health. You can no longer own a district in Molden heath if Kane doesn't want you to. He controls the best corps in the game AE, TP, NS, ERA and others. He can get them to take any district in the game. If doesn't get your district the first time he can keep you locked down until he finally beats you. Now his plans are to keep, farm and hold all of Molden Heath except PFC (Oddeluf) and Thunder-dome (Bosena) which will net him and his friends in excess of 2 Billion ISK a Day(DUST ISK)
Now the average player doesn't know the details of the road map for Dust 514, if we did I suppose it would kind of like being able to see the first 4 numbers of the next lottery. There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. NTM somehow make corps like Ancient Exiles, Team Players, and Nyain San do his bidding, all the while somehow making it seem like they are in charge.
Sooooooooooooooooo? I don't see the problem, it's the same in EVE. With the CSM.
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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noob cavman
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
963
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:47:00 -
[85] - Quote
We were always friendly with kain and kujo? 
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
We are the blue waffle!
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Sum1ne Else
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
1067
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:47:00 -
[86] - Quote
Looks like Kain has his hand in a CCP pie too.. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1987274#post1987274
..This thread may get locked
Level 1 Forum Warrior!
Its a leopleuradon Charlie a magical leoplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
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RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
Lokun Listamenn
703
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:10:00 -
[87] - Quote
*Sigh* And the game had so much potential.  |
noob cavman
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
965
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:13:00 -
[88] - Quote
ummmm hi Rydog
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
We are the blue waffle!
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
4937
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Posted - 2014.03.27 23:21:00 -
[89] - Quote
Athena Dare wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:
Did you see Mittens get kicked off the CSM when his coalition was controlling nearly all of null-sec? What you do in the game has nothing to do with you in reality.
Wow Eve references from long ago in a dust forum, but further proof how a CSM/CPM can use secret game information to their advantage.
What kind of secret game information do you think there is? I mean, you realize that they'd not just be removed, but have ALL their accounts permanently banned if they were found to be taking unfair advantage of information, right?
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Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.03.27 23:33:00 -
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Athena Dare wrote:So CPM Kane Spero now rules over Molden Heath in Dust, tell me how CCP doesn't see this as a conflict of interests? CPM's get advanced Intel about the future of the game the rest of us do not get. Yet CCP doesn't see it as a problem that somehow Kane has effectively become king of Molden Health. You can no longer own a district in Molden heath if Kane doesn't want you to. He controls the best corps in the game AE, TP, NS, ERA and others. He can get them to take any district in the game. If doesn't get your district the first time he can keep you locked down until he finally beats you. Now his plans are to keep, farm and hold all of Molden Heath except PFC (Oddeluf) and Thunder-dome (Bosena) which will net him and his friends in excess of 2 Billion ISK a Day(DUST ISK)
Now the average player doesn't know the details of the road map for Dust 514, if we did I suppose it would kind of like being able to see the first 4 numbers of the next lottery. There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. NTM somehow make corps like Ancient Exiles, Team Players, and Nyain San do his bidding, all the while somehow making it seem like they are in charge.
yey! we're popular :D
Just read the damn thread
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Xaviah Reaper
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Posted - 2014.03.27 23:38:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:If you believe you have evidence of a CPM member abusing their position, file a support ticket for the attention of CCP Logibro with the evidence and I'll take it from there.
or read this forum and take it from there.. :P
Just read the damn thread
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Kain Spero
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 23:45:00 -
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I'm sorry but just because I'm a CPM doesn't mean I won't burn your house down in-game. CPM is something that I do in real life and has no relation to me in-game.
In a game mode like PC there are winners are losers.
As CPM I've always pushed for the the information regarding changes to Planetary Conquest to be released as quickly as possible and for the Devs to discussion their potential changes publicly before engaging in those changes. PC is a complicated enough system that the community needs plenty of notice for incoming changes so they can be planned for.
As for Molden Heath being under the control of one entity this was always the eventual outcome in a system where it is more profitable to gain ISK passively than to fight. Anyone that knows my record knows that I wish passive ISK would burn in a fire. It's just not a very good design.
As for the changes to locking the writing was on the wall and folks found out that they in fact were not able to defend their districts once they made them available for attack. The irony here is that we were actually making better money picking locks and selling districts. Locking going away was a negative to my organization's business model of selling land because it greatly depreciated the ISK value of a district. That business model of capture sell is something I had used since NF's landing on MH.
All in all I'm not surprised to see Athena Dare with a post like this. A look through their posting history will show the heavy bias and numerous baseless accusations.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.03.27 23:48:00 -
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Is this another thread about a CPM who has done nothing more than play the game?
If he's got the likes of Acient Exiles, Teamplayers and so on eating out of his hand is it because he's a CPM member or because he is a sly ******* whoose played the meta like piano.
What exactly as CPM has given him an advantage?
Did he tell people the FOTM? How could he we haven't even worked out what it is yet.
Did he Swindle ISK via the use of his memership? No
Its no different to when Eon ruled everything they decided to make a police force and charge people to rent districts, or has everyone forgotten that already!
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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smartlayer
What The French
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:21:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:I'm sorry but just because I'm a CPM doesn't mean I won't burn your house down in-game. CPM is something that I do in real life and has no relation to me in-game.
In a game mode like PC there are winners and there are losers.
As CPM I've always pushed for the the information regarding changes to Planetary Conquest to be released as quickly as possible and for the Devs to discuss their potential changes publicly before engaging in those changes. PC is a complicated enough system that the community needs plenty of notice for incoming changes so they can be planned for.
As for Molden Heath being under the control of one entity this was always the eventual outcome in a system where it is more profitable to gain ISK passively than to fight. Anyone that knows my record knows that I wish passive ISK would burn in a fire. It's just not a very good design.
As for the changes to locking the writing was on the wall and folks found out that they in fact were not able to defend their districts once they made them available for attack. The irony here is that we were actually making better money picking locks and selling districts. Locking going away was a negative to my organization's business model of selling land because it greatly depreciated the ISK value of a district. That business model of capture sell is something I had used since NF's landing on MH.
All in all I'm not surprised to see Athena Dare with a post like this. A look through their posting history will show the heavy bias and numerous baseless accusations.
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Kiryune
What The French
Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:58:00 -
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smartlayer wrote:Kain Spero wrote:I'm sorry but just because I'm a CPM doesn't mean I won't burn your house down in-game. CPM is something that I do in real life and has no relation to me in-game.
In a game mode like PC there are winners and there are losers.
As CPM I've always pushed for the the information regarding changes to Planetary Conquest to be released as quickly as possible and for the Devs to discuss their potential changes publicly before engaging in those changes. PC is a complicated enough system that the community needs plenty of notice for incoming changes so they can be planned for.
As for Molden Heath being under the control of one entity this was always the eventual outcome in a system where it is more profitable to gain ISK passively than to fight. Anyone that knows my record knows that I wish passive ISK would burn in a fire. It's just not a very good design.
As for the changes to locking the writing was on the wall and folks found out that they in fact were not able to defend their districts once they made them available for attack. The irony here is that we were actually making better money picking locks and selling districts. Locking going away was a negative to my organization's business model of selling land because it greatly depreciated the ISK value of a district. That business model of capture sell is something I had used since NF's landing on MH.
All in all I'm not surprised to see Athena Dare with a post like this. A look through their posting history will show the heavy bias and numerous baseless accusations. You feel nervous ?
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Athena Dare
Revenge of the Fallen IMPS
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Posted - 2014.03.31 18:35:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:I'm sorry but just because I'm a CPM doesn't mean I won't burn your house down in-game. CPM is something that I do in real life and has no relation to me in-game...
Anyone that knows my record knows that I wish passive ISK would burn in a fire. It's just not a very good design.
The irony here is that we were actually making better money picking locks and selling districts. Locking going away was a negative to my organization's business model of selling land because it greatly depreciated the ISK value of a district. That business model of capture sell is something I had used since NF's landing on MH.
Yeah no you plan on making the real ISK in eve when PC 2.0 comes out. When people/corps/alliances will have to pay you, if they want any of the resources the Dust Districts will provide.
OH this wasn't an accusation, just stating the facts, but that was a beautiful politician's speech.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.03.31 18:37:00 -
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smartlayer wrote:Kain Spero wrote:I'm sorry but just because I'm a CPM doesn't mean I won't burn your house down in-game. CPM is something that I do in real life and has no relation to me in-game.
In a game mode like PC there are winners and there are losers.
As CPM I've always pushed for the the information regarding changes to Planetary Conquest to be released as quickly as possible and for the Devs to discuss their potential changes publicly before engaging in those changes. PC is a complicated enough system that the community needs plenty of notice for incoming changes so they can be planned for.
As for Molden Heath being under the control of one entity this was always the eventual outcome in a system where it is more profitable to gain ISK passively than to fight. Anyone that knows my record knows that I wish passive ISK would burn in a fire. It's just not a very good design.
As for the changes to locking the writing was on the wall and folks found out that they in fact were not able to defend their districts once they made them available for attack. The irony here is that we were actually making better money picking locks and selling districts. Locking going away was a negative to my organization's business model of selling land because it greatly depreciated the ISK value of a district. That business model of capture sell is something I had used since NF's landing on MH.
All in all I'm not surprised to see Athena Dare with a post like this. A look through their posting history will show the heavy bias and numerous baseless accusations. You feel nervous ?
Why would he?
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Void Echo
Total Extinction
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Posted - 2014.03.31 18:39:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Athena Dare wrote:So CPM Kane Spero now rules over Molden Heath in Dust, tell me how CCP doesn't see this as a conflict of interests? CPM's get advanced Intel about the future of the game the rest of us do not get. Yet CCP doesn't see it as a problem that somehow Kane has effectively become king of Molden Health. You can no longer own a district in Molden heath if Kane doesn't want you to. He controls the best corps in the game AE, TP, NS, ERA and others. He can get them to take any district in the game. If doesn't get your district the first time he can keep you locked down until he finally beats you. Now his plans are to keep, farm and hold all of Molden Heath except PFC (Oddeluf) and Thunder-dome (Bosena) which will net him and his friends in excess of 2 Billion ISK a Day(DUST ISK)
Now the average player doesn't know the details of the road map for Dust 514, if we did I suppose it would kind of like being able to see the first 4 numbers of the next lottery. There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. NTM somehow make corps like Ancient Exiles, Team Players, and Nyain San do his bidding, all the while somehow making it seem like they are in charge. It's funny how so many people don't understand anything. Did you see Mittens get kicked off the CSM when his coalition was controlling nearly all of null-sec? What you do in the game has nothing to do with you in reality.
notice how Kain has control of MH and he has not been kicked of the CPM. your theory is invalid.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.03.31 18:44:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Athena Dare wrote:So CPM Kane Spero now rules over Molden Heath in Dust, tell me how CCP doesn't see this as a conflict of interests? CPM's get advanced Intel about the future of the game the rest of us do not get. Yet CCP doesn't see it as a problem that somehow Kane has effectively become king of Molden Health. You can no longer own a district in Molden heath if Kane doesn't want you to. He controls the best corps in the game AE, TP, NS, ERA and others. He can get them to take any district in the game. If doesn't get your district the first time he can keep you locked down until he finally beats you. Now his plans are to keep, farm and hold all of Molden Heath except PFC (Oddeluf) and Thunder-dome (Bosena) which will net him and his friends in excess of 2 Billion ISK a Day(DUST ISK)
Now the average player doesn't know the details of the road map for Dust 514, if we did I suppose it would kind of like being able to see the first 4 numbers of the next lottery. There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. NTM somehow make corps like Ancient Exiles, Team Players, and Nyain San do his bidding, all the while somehow making it seem like they are in charge. It's funny how so many people don't understand anything. Did you see Mittens get kicked off the CSM when his coalition was controlling nearly all of null-sec? What you do in the game has nothing to do with you in reality. notice how Kain has control of MH and he has not been kicked of the CPM. your theory is invalid.
That wasn't what Mobius meant.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Void Echo
Total Extinction
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Posted - 2014.03.31 18:48:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Void Echo wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Athena Dare wrote:So CPM Kane Spero now rules over Molden Heath in Dust, tell me how CCP doesn't see this as a conflict of interests? CPM's get advanced Intel about the future of the game the rest of us do not get. Yet CCP doesn't see it as a problem that somehow Kane has effectively become king of Molden Health. You can no longer own a district in Molden heath if Kane doesn't want you to. He controls the best corps in the game AE, TP, NS, ERA and others. He can get them to take any district in the game. If doesn't get your district the first time he can keep you locked down until he finally beats you. Now his plans are to keep, farm and hold all of Molden Heath except PFC (Oddeluf) and Thunder-dome (Bosena) which will net him and his friends in excess of 2 Billion ISK a Day(DUST ISK)
Now the average player doesn't know the details of the road map for Dust 514, if we did I suppose it would kind of like being able to see the first 4 numbers of the next lottery. There is no way this information has not helped Kane Spero do what he did. NTM somehow make corps like Ancient Exiles, Team Players, and Nyain San do his bidding, all the while somehow making it seem like they are in charge. It's funny how so many people don't understand anything. Did you see Mittens get kicked off the CSM when his coalition was controlling nearly all of null-sec? What you do in the game has nothing to do with you in reality. notice how Kain has control of MH and he has not been kicked of the CPM. your theory is invalid. That wasn't what Mobius meant.
yeah, i didn't read correctly.
ccp isn't gona do anything about this situation, its up to the players to do something. if only there were enough players wanting it to make a difference.
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