DUST Search - SAY NO MORE TO TANK 514 in 1.8!!!

Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Dude you have to realise its too much of a threat to friendly vehicles to leave them up. If we do and they flip how are we to react to that?

Your statement makes you look like a WP blitzer and a wuss making excuses for destroying neutral turrets, especially on your starting side of the map at the beginning of the game.

You take them out when they become a threat. Otherwise you're just ensuring that they will never be a threat to the enemy either.

Doesn't matter to me. I've been blitzed too many times because ground forces failed to hold points and enemies overran into turret emplacements that I hadn't destroyed.

If you want to help fight a tank an LAV and a forge gun is a good way, or hop into my HAV and man my turrets. Otherwise yeah I cannot take the risk of engaging an enemy HAV on the field not knowing whether or not I will be fired upon by a turret out of nowhere.

And dude If I was a WP *****, or even cared about WP at all since I dont run pubs....they have no value to me, I would be a logi not a tanker.

Well I am a dedicated forge gunner, though I'm currently on vacation, and I've never blasted a neutral turret. If you'd said you only play PC I would have left out the WP blitzer part.

"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"

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Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 151	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:05:00 - [1] - Quote 1.8 will be the time faction v faction, infantry v infantry, not tank v infantry, DS,or lazy redline tanks. So let us all make a stand to tanks in 1.8......... If u see a redline tank: bomb truck or orbital if u see tanks spamming on ambush against infantry: bomb truck If u see railgun tanks denying any DS uses: bomb truck if u see any tanks totally denying the point of the match: bomb truck So get out your remotes and stop Tank 514 in 1.8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be considerate only if u see missile tanks (unless theyre spamming infantry), or a few tanks fighting each other. lets do this! BORN CALDARI
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 274	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:07:00 - [2] - Quote Eh, I'm in. Even if Jihad LAV's are going to die in 1.8. Tell Pyrex to get out of his tank so he can get knifed by the scouts, will ya? Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2319	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:08:00 - [3] - Quote I will help you kill the tanks with my tank! wait damnit I missed the part where you were empathising with missiles. I DON'T WANT YOUR SYMPATHY sob ak.0 4 LYFE Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 219	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:11:00 - [4] - Quote My cloaked scout will be ready to suprise and destroy dem tanks! The next build better be good. CCP don't mess up.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3310	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:13:00 - [5] - Quote I would like to take a moment to thank you selfish tank pricks for trashing all of the friendly CA Railgun Installations so that we can't easily help against enemy vehicles. It's smart and classy. GG, dipshits. I GÖú Kittens.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8780	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:15:00 - [6] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: 1.8 will be the time faction v faction, infantry v infantry, not tank v infantry, DS,or lazy redline tanks. So let us all make a stand to tanks in 1.8......... If u see a redline tank: bomb truck or orbital if u see tanks spamming on ambush against infantry: bomb truck If u see railgun tanks denying any DS uses: bomb truck if u see any tanks totally denying the point of the match: bomb truck So get out your remotes and stop Tank 514 in 1.8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be considerate only if u see missile tanks (unless theyre spamming infantry), or a few tanks fighting each other. lets do this! And how long before the community decides spamming is one HAV, they are dangerously close now telling me that having two HAV in the same squad is spamming. And how long before you ruin a playstyle because you were too short sighted and slow of mind to wait, discuss, or talk with other like minded players of balance? Frankly speaking this screams of desperation and thus I have no fear of it. Come nerf or buff I will continue to tank. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8780	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:16:00 - [7] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I would like to take a moment to thank you selfish tank pricks for trashing all of the friendly CA Railgun Installations so that we can't easily help against enemy vehicles. It's smart and classy. GG, dipshits. Dude you have to realise its too much of a threat to friendly vehicles to leave them up. If we do and they flip how are we to react to that? "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2320	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:18:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Egonz4 wrote: 1.8 will be the time faction v faction, infantry v infantry, not tank v infantry, DS,or lazy redline tanks. So let us all make a stand to tanks in 1.8......... If u see a redline tank: bomb truck or orbital if u see tanks spamming on ambush against infantry: bomb truck If u see railgun tanks denying any DS uses: bomb truck if u see any tanks totally denying the point of the match: bomb truck So get out your remotes and stop Tank 514 in 1.8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be considerate only if u see missile tanks (unless theyre spamming infantry), or a few tanks fighting each other. lets do this! And how long before the community decides spamming is one HAV, they are dangerously close now telling me that having two HAV in the same squad is spamming. And how long before you ruin a playstyle because you were too short sighted and slow of mind to wait, discuss, or talk with other like minded players of balance? Frankly speaking this screams of desperation and thus I have no fear of it. Come nerf or buff I will continue to tank. Squads with three tanks are fun. Especially when I call them all in :) (wait is this why I have no money?) ak.0 4 LYFE Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 268	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:18:00 - [9] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I would like to take a moment to thank you selfish tank pricks for trashing all of the friendly CA Railgun Installations so that we can't easily help against enemy vehicles. It's smart and classy. GG, dipshits. You are most welcome. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 152	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:23:00 - [10] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Eh, I'm in. Even if Jihad LAV's are going to die in 1.8. Tell Pyrex to get out of his tank so he can get knifed by the scouts, will ya? Haha will do BORN CALDARI

Skihids Bullet Cluster 3110	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:34:00 - [11] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I would like to take a moment to thank you selfish tank pricks for trashing all of the friendly CA Railgun Installations so that we can't easily help against enemy vehicles. It's smart and classy. GG, dipshits. You are absolutely correct, especially when blue dots take the time to guard those turrets with thier lives, even when the main fight is on the other side of the map. None of them would consider abandoning such powerful weapons to be picked up by the enemy without a fight and used against their side. Nope, they protect it at all cost once hacked. We should recognize thier courage and team play.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3311	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:38:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Rynoceros wrote: I would like to take a moment to thank you selfish tank pricks for trashing all of the friendly CA Railgun Installations so that we can't easily help against enemy vehicles. It's smart and classy. GG, dipshits. Dude you have to realise its too much of a threat to friendly vehicles to leave them up. If we do and they flip how are we to react to that? I dunno, 2 shot them like they're still neutral? I GÖú Kittens.
Scheherazade VII 363	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:38:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Rynoceros wrote: I would like to take a moment to thank you selfish tank pricks for trashing all of the friendly CA Railgun Installations so that we can't easily help against enemy vehicles. It's smart and classy. GG, dipshits. Dude you have to realise its too much of a threat to friendly vehicles to leave them up. If we do and they flip how are we to react to that? what about the ones right by the MCC on the hills? sometimes they do it just to farm points and be obnoxious. some games i've gotten on a railgun installation and taken out 2 tanks, all the other enemy turrets and the same dropship pilot 2 or 3 times within the first 5 minutes of the match! some of the turrets are in such a good place that there is NO EXCUSE for destroying them before they're hacked! I love the ones which let you see the entire map, I've taken out a few DS pilots 4 or 5 times in a row before they got the message,. anywhere they took off from was easily visible, that's a great advantage of being able to dominate the map which should not be taken away by somebody looking to farm 100wp. and i totally understand how deadly they are having been an allstar militia tank user for a while now.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2325	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:39:00 - [14] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I would like to take a moment to thank you selfish tank pricks for trashing all of the friendly CA Railgun Installations so that we can't easily help against enemy vehicles. It's smart and classy. GG, dipshits. Wait what? I take great offence at your assertion. I have never in my life destroyed a friendly installation, Railgun or otherwise. The red ones, though, those ones I terminate with extreme prejudice. What? Keep 'em blue next time! ak.0 4 LYFE Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
noobsniper the 2nd OLDSPICE. Top Men. 312	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:52:00 - [15] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I would like to take a moment to thank you selfish tank pricks for trashing all of the friendly CA Railgun Installations so that we can't easily help against enemy vehicles. It's smart and classy. GG, dipshits. They do that so they don't get nailed by it when a red hacks it my tank has been pwned by one of these things many times so I just blow them all up because if u didn't know the ai doesn't miss and they nail you from across the map just call me communist space king noob MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 132	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:54:00 - [16] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Eh, I'm in. Even if Jihad LAV's are going to die in 1.8. Tell Pyrex to get out of his tank so he can get knifed by the scouts, will ya? The angst against the Toy Tank behavior is always worth a laugh. I wouldn't say that the J-jeep or "Jihad Jeep" is going away after Patch 1.8... [...though I do wish the PHRASE would go away. We've been immersed enough in the New Eden/ EVE mindset to produce more inventive terms than that. It should be called an IEV...Improvized Explosive Vehicle, or IDV...Improvised Detonation Vehicle] If the HAV hyperactivity isn't solved in 1.8 (I predict Patch 1.9 will be "the Vehicle Uprising") we'll still be resourceful enough to deal with HAV infestation by explosive means of some kind. It may require TWO-player coop... he drives the LAV, while she sits on the hood, tosses 3 REs and sets them off at the moment the LAV bumps the.... err, I mean she drives the LAV, while HE sits on the hood and.... well you know. Seriously though, a tactic I have not seen employed yet in Dust is "The Rat Patrol". These were two identically outfitted jeeps used mainly by British troops in the African desert WWII campaign. Two FAST moving jeeps with crackerjack drivers and (30 cal?) machine gun were LETHAL. TWO LAVS mounted with Prototype Rail Gun (many DS drivers know this as the HAV-buster) and driven by top LAV drivers, can hunt and score HAVs all day, two quick mongoose against one fast cobra. But I haven't seen players doing it yet...
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 867	Posted - 2014.03.24 19:58:00 - [17] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: 1.8 will be the time faction v faction, infantry v infantry, not tank v infantry, DS,or lazy redline tanks. So let us all make a stand to tanks in 1.8......... If u see a redline tank: bomb truck or orbital if u see tanks spamming on ambush against infantry: bomb truck If u see railgun tanks denying any DS uses: bomb truck if u see any tanks totally denying the point of the match: bomb truck So get out your remotes and stop Tank 514 in 1.8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be considerate only if u see missile tanks (unless theyre spamming infantry), or a few tanks fighting each other. lets do this! As a scout I would rather not resort to such barbaric acts....I can do just fine without the car! Come on Res let's go blow stuff up PS: only a matter of time b4 REs become useless as well. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3312	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:06:00 - [18] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: because if u didn't know the ai doesn't miss and they nail you from across the map No. AI does not get you across the map. Mercs do. Every map has 1 Railgun Installation on each side that is extremely effective for downing enemy vehicles as they're deployed. It's usually within the redline and is very uselul for the first 3 minutes of a match - if you don't ******* destroy them. It would save everybody a lot of headache. Today, Manus Peak: I had 3 HAVs, 4 Dropships, & 5 Infantrymen Killed before all 3 Objectives were hacked - in our favor. We won, without a single HAV or ADS deployed on our side. I GÖú Kittens.
Shijima Kuraimaru WarRavens League of Infamy 454	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:13:00 - [19] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dude you have to realise its too much of a threat to friendly vehicles to leave them up. If we do and they flip how are we to react to that? Your statement makes you look like a WP blitzer and a wuss making excuses for destroying neutral turrets, especially on your starting side of the map at the beginning of the game. You take them out when they become a threat. Otherwise you're just ensuring that they will never be a threat to the enemy either. I still can't find tanks on the market. All I see are those HAVs.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8782	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:25:00 - [20] - Quote Shijima Kuraimaru wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dude you have to realise its too much of a threat to friendly vehicles to leave them up. If we do and they flip how are we to react to that? Your statement makes you look like a WP blitzer and a wuss making excuses for destroying neutral turrets, especially on your starting side of the map at the beginning of the game. You take them out when they become a threat. Otherwise you're just ensuring that they will never be a threat to the enemy either. Doesn't matter to me. I've been blitzed too many times because ground forces failed to hold points and enemies overran into turret emplacements that I hadn't destroyed. If you want to help fight a tank an LAV and a forge gun is a good way, or hop into my HAV and man my turrets. Otherwise yeah I cannot take the risk of engaging an enemy HAV on the field not knowing whether or not I will be fired upon by a turret out of nowhere. And dude If I was a WP ****, or even cared about WP at all since I dont run pubs....they have no value to me, I would be a logi not a tanker. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"* -Dagger Two

Supernus Gigas sNk Syndicate 593	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:31:00 - [21] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: Be considerate only if u see missile tanks I admit, I get a bit salty when I get killed by a JLAV when running Missiles. Come on dude, I wasn't hurting anyone... *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Shijima Kuraimaru WarRavens League of Infamy 456	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:33:00 - [22] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Shijima Kuraimaru wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dude you have to realise its too much of a threat to friendly vehicles to leave them up. If we do and they flip how are we to react to that? Your statement makes you look like a WP blitzer and a wuss making excuses for destroying neutral turrets, especially on your starting side of the map at the beginning of the game. You take them out when they become a threat. Otherwise you're just ensuring that they will never be a threat to the enemy either. Doesn't matter to me. I've been blitzed too many times because ground forces failed to hold points and enemies overran into turret emplacements that I hadn't destroyed. If you want to help fight a tank an LAV and a forge gun is a good way, or hop into my HAV and man my turrets. Otherwise yeah I cannot take the risk of engaging an enemy HAV on the field not knowing whether or not I will be fired upon by a turret out of nowhere. And dude If I was a WP *****, or even cared about WP at all since I dont run pubs....they have no value to me, I would be a logi not a tanker. Well I am a dedicated forge gunner, though I'm currently on vacation, and I've never blasted a neutral turret. If you'd said you only play PC I would have left out the WP blitzer part. I still can't find tanks on the market. All I see are those HAVs.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8784	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:39:00 - [23] - Quote Shijima Kuraimaru wrote: True Adamance wrote: Shijima Kuraimaru wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dude you have to realise its too much of a threat to friendly vehicles to leave them up. If we do and they flip how are we to react to that? Your statement makes you look like a WP blitzer and a wuss making excuses for destroying neutral turrets, especially on your starting side of the map at the beginning of the game. You take them out when they become a threat. Otherwise you're just ensuring that they will never be a threat to the enemy either. Doesn't matter to me. I've been blitzed too many times because ground forces failed to hold points and enemies overran into turret emplacements that I hadn't destroyed. If you want to help fight a tank an LAV and a forge gun is a good way, or hop into my HAV and man my turrets. Otherwise yeah I cannot take the risk of engaging an enemy HAV on the field not knowing whether or not I will be fired upon by a turret out of nowhere. And dude If I was a WP ****, or even cared about WP at all since I dont run pubs....they have no value to me, I would be a logi not a tanker. Well I am a dedicated forge gunner, though I'm currently on vacation, and I've never blasted a neutral turret. If you'd said you only play PC I would have left out the WP blitzer part. I don't play PC.... I find it boring and pointless though the competition level would surely be amazing. No I am a member of a corporation that almost exclusively focuses on FW and advancing the values of the Amarr Empire. As I say WP means nothing in FW and to me personally. What matters to me is ISK destroyed for ISK lost. If I have caused at least 2-3x more ISK destroyed than ISK lost its not a good game for me. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"* -Dagger Two
Lanius Pulvis Bullet Cluster 206	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:47:00 - [24] - Quote Skihids wrote: Rynoceros wrote: I would like to take a moment to thank you selfish tank pricks for trashing all of the friendly CA Railgun Installations so that we can't easily help against enemy vehicles. It's smart and classy. GG, dipshits. You are absolutely correct, especially when blue dots take the time to guard those turrets with thier lives, even when the main fight is on the other side of the map. None of them would consider abandoning such powerful weapons to be picked up by the enemy without a fight and used against their side. Nope, they protect it at all cost once hacked. We should recognize thier courage and team play. Wait, I see what you did there... Not new, just new to you.
Onesimus Tarsus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1699	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:53:00 - [25] - Quote Skihids wrote: You are absolutely correct, especially when blue dots take the time to guard those turrets with thier lives, even when the main fight is on the other side of the map. None of them would consider abandoning such powerful weapons to be picked up by the enemy without a fight and used against their side. Nope, they protect it at all cost once hacked. We should recognize thier courage and team play. Whenever a tanker attempts to foist the tactical moral high ground, a little blue-eyed kitten dies in a blender. Unless you're just *addicted* to wetsuit paperdolls...
Jake Diesel BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 120	Posted - 2014.03.24 20:55:00 - [26] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I would like to take a moment to thank you selfish tank pricks for trashing all of the friendly CA Railgun Installations so that we can't easily help against enemy vehicles. It's smart and classy. GG, dipshits. Oh snaps. I'm one of the forgers who usually destroys those for warpoints. Ugh! Ok. For 1.8 I will leave all friendly installations to friendlies that are hacking them just so we can give dem tanks some hell!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8789	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:07:00 - [27] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Skihids wrote: You are absolutely correct, especially when blue dots take the time to guard those turrets with thier lives, even when the main fight is on the other side of the map. None of them would consider abandoning such powerful weapons to be picked up by the enemy without a fight and used against their side. Nope, they protect it at all cost once hacked. We should recognize thier courage and team play. Whenever a tanker attempts to foist the tactical moral high ground, a little blue-eyed kitten dies in a blender. Meh regardless of what people think each role requires it own mind set and tactical approach to run well. I mean I don't know of many other people who have downed 9 enemy HAV in a blaster tank this build without losing their own. Seen plenty of people do it with rails or missles.... but not many with blasters. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Skihids Bullet Cluster 3114	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:25:00 - [28] - Quote Turrets shouldn't be free. If mercs had to pay for them they would: A) Be in useful locations and B) Be guarded rather than taken and immediately abandoned. Infantry has no skin in the game, so their opinion doesn't matter. They don't pay for the turrets and they don't suffer when they turn red. It's as simple as that.
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 280	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:36:00 - [29] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Eh, I'm in. Even if Jihad LAV's are going to die in 1.8. Tell Pyrex to get out of his tank so he can get knifed by the scouts, will ya? I stopped watching Pyrex youtube videos. I got sick of him beating off to how OP tanks are and whining about stuff that could kill him. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Skihids Bullet Cluster 3114	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:37:00 - [30] - Quote Here's an interesting thought experiment: Dot the battlefield with sentry turrets that only target infantry. Any vehicle can roll up to it and hack it, but infantry is mowed down by AI when getting near. They all start out neutral. What would be their fate in a team with mixed meta levels? Say mostly militia and BPOs with a sprinkling of expensive proto wearers. Would the proto users leave them active on their rear flanks, or would they decide it's prudent to destroy them? How would the cheap fits react?



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