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Villanor Aquarius
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:42:00 -
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Everyone will live proportionally longer. It just changes pacing and playstyle, sure you have more time to react to someone but the person who is shooting you also has more time to react to you turning.
You will not die as quickly to getting jumped. That is plain true. The TTK adjustment will primarily result in more fights occuring face-to-face and is likely to make 1vs1 fights less common as your teammates have slightly longer to support. The TTK adjustments are definitely a move in the right direction. |
Louis Domi
Pradox One Proficiency V.
93
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:45:00 -
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Myrofibril stimulants... Ill be hitting all of you at 450 hp every hit... dont forget nova knifes. |
Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
905
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:46:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:Corbina Ninja wrote:proto stuff = more hitspoints more hitsponts = more time to survive more TTK + more time to survive = unstoppable protostomper swarm
is this formula correct? One could argue that people can survive longer in non-proto suits and could perform relatively well now that engagements will be decided by skill (or at least more so than before) At the moment, if a competent militia AR gets the drop on a proto logi, they're dead before they turn round.
Tomorrow, if a competent militia AR gets the drop on a proto logi, they'll have three seconds to turn round and destroy them at their leisure.
Not what I'd call engagements getting 'decided by skill'. |
CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
1131
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:47:00 -
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Remote explosives really will shine tomorrow and onwards.
Investigate 9/11
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
11666
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:50:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Nope. I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you here, Kasote.
I believe that higher TTK will most greatly benefit the higher tier gear users.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Joey-Number1
Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:52:00 -
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No, overall time to kill is increased which means noone will suffer anything, its the same as it was before only slower for everyone which is going to be more fun, to not die in half a second, and to get the feeling that the suits are something powerful and high-tech. TTK is overall thing for the entire game. Because at the moment everything feels just too hectic and fast. That's just what I think is the meaning behind TTK in games. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2739
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:06:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Plenty of people asked for a higher TTK not understanding they just suck. It's gonna be great never getting surprised by a noob in MLT again. I will have the time to turn and gun him down even if severely damaged. Not if he instakills you with a ion pistol or plasma cannon first. Ion pistol? HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... Don't **** me. 350 (charge shot) *2 (headshot multi)= 700 Most Protos I've seen have at least 800 HP. Plasma Cannon? Forget the second guy I suppose, or the guy past 10 meters All this does is bend over to the Protobears because they were dying to something besides proto gear.
I get over 700 EHP on a standard suit with standard modules, the plasma pistol will be shite
I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack!
In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
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ReGnYuM
Dirt Nap Squad.
2556
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:07:00 -
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Dust 514 community will learn not engage me in 1v1 situations. Back exposed or not... dat strafe
My SP GAP carries me.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1857
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:09:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Dust 514 community will learn not engage me in 1v1 situations. Back exposed or not... dat strafe
Are you going assault still?
Im not sure if scout is so good to stack plates on.. double strafe speed penalty of x%.
Drop it like its hat.
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1580
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:09:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Dust 514 community will learn not engage me in 1v1 situations. Back exposed or not... dat strafe
Lazer still gets you moving.
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Corbina Ninja
Maphia Clan Corporation
698
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:10:00 -
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thank you all for the answers I'll do a little math simplified
(random numbers) Old TTK STD 2 sec ADV 4 sec PRO 6 sec
TTK increase of 20% (still random numbers)
New TTK STD 2.4 sec (+0.4) ADV 4.8 sec (+0.8) PRO 7.2 sec (+1.2)
I think in the 1.8 protostomping will be more safer
> Test Signature Please Ignore
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2739
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:12:00 -
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Joey-Number1 wrote:No, overall time to kill is increased which means noone will suffer anything, its the same as it was before only slower for everyone which is going to be more fun, to not die in half a second, and to get the feeling that the suits are something powerful and high-tech. TTK is overall thing for the entire game. Because at the moment everything feels just too hectic and fast. That's just what I think is the meaning behind TTK in games.
What about the feeling that our guns are supposed to be powerful and high tech And hell if you dont want things to be hectic and fast paced why are you playing a shooter? The slowest shooters I can think of are the old Rainbow Six games before Vegas and even then the actual engagements were quick and decisive with only the lead up being slow
Actually that reminds me of Dark Souls combat, I think Ill just play that even more instead of this
I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack!
In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
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noobsniper the 2nd
OLDSPICE. Top Men.
312
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:21:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Dust was much more fun back in the day with high TTK.
Learn 2 strafe. Once you've strafed against a blaster tank, then you know how to strafe Too easy I do it my FG fit surprisingly some ppl don't know how to aim lol
just call me communist space king noob
MAG vet raven ftw
Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
493
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:25:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Plenty of people asked for a higher TTK not understanding they just suck. It's gonna be great never getting surprised by a noob in MLT again. I will have the time to turn and gun him down even if severely damaged. Not if he instakills you with a ion pistol or plasma cannon first. lol. or he could drop a LAV on me. be realistic I've actually done this to destroy a ADS above me
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1988
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:25:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Plenty of people asked for a higher TTK not understanding they just suck. It's gonna be great never getting surprised by a noob in MLT again. I will have the time to turn and gun him down even if severely damaged. Not if he instakills you with a ion pistol or plasma cannon first. Ion pistol? HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... Don't **** me. 350 (charge shot) *2 (headshot multi)= 700 Most Protos I've seen have at least 800 HP. Plasma Cannon? Forget the second guy I suppose, or the guy past 10 meters All this does is bend over to the Protobears because they were dying to something besides proto gear. I get over 700 EHP on a standard suit with standard modules, the plasma pistol will be shite Yup.
600ish on my CalSalt
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1445
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:33:00 -
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Corbina Ninja wrote:proto stuff = more hitspoints more hitsponts = more time to survive more TTK + more time to survive = unstoppable protostomper swarm
is this formula correct?
Or less BPO more ADV. |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1587
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:43:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Plenty of people asked for a higher TTK not understanding they just suck. It's gonna be great never getting surprised by a noob in MLT again. I will have the time to turn and gun him down even if severely damaged. Not if he instakills you with a ion pistol or plasma cannon first. lol. or he could drop a LAV on me. be realistic I've actually done this to destroy a ADS above me
I do it several times a day.
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
1634
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:46:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:I think it is, it will definately be interresting to see...
i agree.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
734
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:56:00 -
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in 1.7.. mlt had horrible ttk. proto was a massive increase in ttk. but still with such a large gap it was possible for a highly skilled mlt player/mlt vet.... to kill a proto scrub...
come 1.8 proto scrubs get their god mode suit back and mlt will infact almost undoubtedly require a tank or heavy suit to kill some1 in proto gear. because a mlt ar just aint gonna cut it. when they will almost certainly require 2 fire 2 whole clips in order to kill some1 like how it was pre uprising. so basicaly ground combat has become more unbalanced between the tiers with such a large blanket nerf. with out considering current obtainable hp values for higher tierd suits and such. |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1590
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:00:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:in 1.7.. mlt had horrible ttk. proto was a massive increase in ttk. but still with such a large gap it was possible for a highly skilled mlt player/mlt vet.... to kill a proto scrub...
come 1.8 proto scrubs get their god mode suit back and mlt will infact almost undoubtedly require a tank or heavy suit to kill some1 in proto gear. because a mlt ar just aint gonna cut it. when they will almost certainly require 2 fire 2 whole clips in order to kill some1 like how it was pre uprising. so basicaly ground combat has become more unbalanced between the tiers with such a large blanket nerf. with out considering current obtainable hp values for higher tierd suits and such.
CCP also made the starter fits use the weakest and shortest ranged rifles.
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
734
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:05:00 -
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and i have adapted and survived with my mlt gear/skills....
this nerf is basically just harming newer players to the game. |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1592
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:09:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Dust was much more fun back in the day with high TTK.
Learn 2 strafe. Once you've strafed against a blaster tank, then you know how to strafe
Take cover, man. If they ever fix aiming and hit detection you will be killed. Nevermind like that will ever happen.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1687
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:09:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:My TTK will be staying the same. One charge swipe for mediums/lights. One charge and one uncharged for heavies. How do you do this? I have level 4 Prof. in SRs and stack 3 Complex mods, but even with a headshot, Heavies and brick tanked Logis refuse to go down even with two charged shots.
Maybe I'm not doing it right?
*edit*
Dammit, you're talking about knives.... |
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