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Corbina Ninja
Maphia Clan Corporation
688
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:53:00 -
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proto stuff = more hitspoints
more hitsponts = more time to survive
more TTK + more time to survive = unstoppable protostomper swarm
is this formula correct?
> Test Signature Please Ignore
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
2062
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:55:00 -
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Nope.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
I'm waiting for my G-I suit. It's what I want.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2039
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:01:00 -
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I think it is, it will definately be interresting to see...
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
46
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:06:00 -
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Has anyone figured out how long the TTK is gonna be with different fittings? 
I think there must be some spreadsheet-maniac out there who already did that... |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1840
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:07:00 -
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Dust was much more fun back in the day with high TTK.
Learn 2 strafe.
Drop it like its hat.
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
1160
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:07:00 -
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My TTK will be staying the same.
One charge swipe for mediums/lights.
One charge and one uncharged for heavies.
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2675
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:08:00 -
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Protostomping is sickness of another issue. Pro gear should always beat mlt adv gear or whats the point of having diffrent levels of gear, the problem is the lack of personal ability to chose your level of risk.
Via low isk payouts but you can only bring std gear.
Or huge payouts but your gunna face everything the otherside has.
Cure the sickness not the symptom
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
1985
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:10:00 -
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Yeah, we knew this is all that will come of it.
It will do jack squat for non Protos, but make proto gear unstoppable again.
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
3422
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:13:00 -
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If people continue to brick tank then TTK may be going up around 30%. It may even be higher if everyone drops their damage modules and fits shield extenders. Most people are unimaginative and just want to stand there in the open and shoot until dead.
I'm hoping to actually run one or two fewer modules for tank and go back to more electronic warfare.
Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
1119
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:14:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Protostomping is sickness of another issue. Pro gear should always beat mlt adv gear or whats the point of having diffrent levels of gear, the problem is the lack of personal ability to chose your level of risk.
Via low isk payouts but you can only bring std gear.
Or huge payouts but your gunna face everything the otherside has.
Cure the sickness not the symptom
This man right here understands.
Investigate 9/11
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Deltahawk Durango
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
163
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:19:00 -
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you wrong... OP damage mods and profiency skill get nerfed... hp advantage is same, damage advantage is less...
I don't believe in an eye for an eye...
I believe in two eyes for an eye!
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
1985
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:25:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Protostomping is sickness of another issue. Pro gear should always beat mlt adv gear or whats the point of having diffrent levels of gear, the problem is the lack of personal ability to chose your level of risk.
Via low isk payouts but you can only bring std gear.
Or huge payouts but your gunna face everything the otherside has.
Cure the sickness not the symptom
Tiers shouldn't exist at all anyway.
They are nothing more then a cheap way to make it look like you have content when it's nonexistent. It's a artifical imbalance that they brought with them from eve because they didn't realize that artificially making X gun worse then X+1 gun doesn't work for solid player-skill based gunplay. It boils down to the "Who can fit more plates" and "Who can Zerg more HP" (Both of which proto excels at.) that everybody on the forums think isn't the way already
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1563
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:25:00 -
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Plenty of people asked for a higher TTK not understanding they just suck. It's gonna be great never getting surprised by a noob in MLT again. I will have the time to turn and gun him down even if severely damaged.
Who wants some?
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1842
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:27:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Plenty of people asked for a higher TTK not understanding they just suck. It's gonna be great never getting surprised by a noob in MLT again. I will have the time to turn and gun him down even if severely damaged.
Not if he instakills you with a ion pistol or plasma cannon first.
Drop it like its hat.
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1563
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:29:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Plenty of people asked for a higher TTK not understanding they just suck. It's gonna be great never getting surprised by a noob in MLT again. I will have the time to turn and gun him down even if severely damaged. Not if he instakills you with a ion pistol or plasma cannon first.
lol. or he could drop a LAV on me. be realistic
Who wants some?
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2203
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:29:00 -
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yes, it took most of us 15 seconds to realize more ttk would result in more proto stomping, at least the way it was done.
hopefully we will get back a bit of that speed tanking and we can get back to ddr 514, sorry haters but I liked it ^^ |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
1980
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:30:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Dust was much more fun back in the day with high TTK.
Learn 2 lag.
fixed.
Seriously, no. It was fun 1/10 of the times when hit detection and latency were good, but more time to kill means more shots you miss due to several things, one of these is latency. In my case ( 5 Mb down , 2 Mb up, 120 ms latency on EU battle server) it already make me miss a good 1/4 of the shots. Playing with extremely high TTK is like bringing this problem to its extremes again.
>Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6084
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:35:00 -
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Corbina Ninja wrote:proto stuff = more hitspoints
more hitsponts = more time to survive
more TTK + more time to survive = unstoppable protostomper swarm
is this formula correct?
Yes, but the TTK works both ways. While you may be hard to kill, the enemy will be hard to kill as well.
Basically your a giant brick spouting feathers. I'll laugh at you if you armor tank as I'll simply MD you to death and if you shield tank.....
Let's just say my Flux gives no F*cks
The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers"
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
1980
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:37:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Corbina Ninja wrote:proto stuff = more hitspoints
more hitsponts = more time to survive
more TTK + more time to survive = unstoppable protostomper swarm
is this formula correct? Yes, but the TTK works both ways. While you may be hard to kill, the enemy will be hard to kill as well. Basically your a giant brick spouting feathers. I'll laugh at you if you armor tank as I'll simply MD you to death and if you shield tank..... Let's just say my Flux gives no F*cks
Already answered what the real problem is .
>Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
1986
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:32:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Plenty of people asked for a higher TTK not understanding they just suck. It's gonna be great never getting surprised by a noob in MLT again. I will have the time to turn and gun him down even if severely damaged. Not if he instakills you with a ion pistol or plasma cannon first.
Ion pistol? HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...
Don't **** me. 350 (charge shot) *2 (headshot multi)= 700
Most Protos I've seen have at least 800 HP.
Plasma Cannon? Forget the second guy I suppose, or the guy past 10 meters
All this does is bend over to the Protobears because they were dying to something besides proto gear.
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2056
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:41:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Plenty of people asked for a higher TTK not understanding they just suck. It's gonna be great never getting surprised by a noob in MLT again. I will have the time to turn and gun him down even if severely damaged.
I assume that you have evidence of this, other than yourself of course? |
axis alpha
Red Star.
EoN.
282
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:51:00 -
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I didn't run proto Allll weekend that gon change tummuruh
We won't follow the deceiver.
You let this be your warning.
The path of the wretched is burning..
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
384
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:57:00 -
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Corbina Ninja wrote:proto stuff = more hitspoints
more hitsponts = more time to survive
more TTK + more time to survive = unstoppable protostomper swarm
is this formula correct?
One could argue that people can survive longer in non-proto suits and could perform relatively well now that engagements will be decided by skill (or at least more so than before)
There are obviously many factors to consider but if I had to guess at this moment I think I'd expect more proto due to the new suits at first but then later die down. Who knows though, lots of moving parts haha.
I will say that I hope we're both wrong haha. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
810
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:58:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Dust was much more fun back in the day with high TTK.
Learn 2 strafe.
Ah the time with broken HD and higher strafe speed? Where scouts could dance through a stream of bullets without shots regisering on them?
Just to remind you this was the reason for the very hard scout nerf. And I really don't want this BS come back to Dust... |
Tectonic Fusion
1291
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:59:00 -
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I remember when I was terrible and always got like 8-12 kills and n deaths in my proto suit. The TTK won't be as low as say 1.1 or 1.3, so I'm only gonna use advanced and basic suits since you can die way more times and make a crap ton of isk if you need too.
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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noob cavman
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
899
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:00:00 -
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Its not proto stomping ina scout suit!
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well maybe a little.
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Oldest barbershop in new eden.
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Sev Alcatraz
Bullet Cluster
452
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:02:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Dust was much more fun back in the day with high TTK.
Learn 2 strafe.
That is very true, firefights we're longer and more intense
closed beta Vet - why am I still here....
Tankagedon
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shadow drake35
the third day
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
88
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:04:00 -
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TIP dont stand still
MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
279
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:29:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Dust was much more fun back in the day with high TTK.
Learn 2 strafe.
Once you've strafed against a blaster tank, then you know how to strafe
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
756
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:40:00 -
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TTK with knives won't change much
Looking for the scout hangout?
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