DUST Search - Goodbye, Minmatar...

crazy space 1 wrote:

Vrain Matari wrote:

crazy space 1 wrote:

Paran Tadec wrote:

Crimson Cerberes wrote:

This has got to be a joke post right?

Leave it to minnie bastards to cry because they aren't OP enough.

Your suits are all incredibly fast, get 1/2 of a free complex module (double stamina regen), the most CPU, the best strafing (SUPER important with TTK increasing), the best hacking, the best repping, insanely powerful bonuses (+8 or so complex dmg mods for a nova knife? Double the clip of the hugely boosted mass driver??? a commando bonus that applies to the most weapons?????)

Seriously, how much better than all of the rest of the suits does minmatar have to be before you guys quit with your B.S. QQing?

Cal scrub forgets:

1. speed doesnt matter with auto aim

I will stop you right there, Sprint speed and how fast you can get to cover is ALL THAT MATTERS with auto-aim being as strong as it is. How fast you can get your HMG into someones face is important.

Sprint speed doesn't matter with sloth effect, which is amplified by AA.

AA doesn't work through walls

AA doesn't help you get to an objective faster

AA doesn't get you in range of your target so you can use AA to kill them

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Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2002	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:22:00 - [31] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: This has got to be a joke post right? Leave it to minnie bastards to cry because they aren't OP enough. Your suits are all incredibly fast, get 1/2 of a free complex module (double stamina regen), the most CPU, the best strafing (SUPER important with TTK increasing), the best hacking, the best repping, insanely powerful bonuses (+8 or so complex dmg mods for a nova knife? Double the clip of the hugely boosted mass driver??? a commando bonus that applies to the most weapons?????) Seriously, how much better than all of the rest of the suits does minmatar have to be before you guys quit with your B.S. QQing? Cal scrub forgets: 1. speed doesnt matter with auto aim 2. most cpu but still requires cpu upgrades in lows. 3. Mass driver wont recieve the bonus. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 747	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:25:00 - [32] - Quote Zaaeed Massani wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Zaaeed Massani wrote: Even though they do explosive damage for some reason I recall being told they would not benefit from the Commando bonus. Hmmm, That's unfortunate if true but good for the overall consistency of the new marriage of race and role. Yeah, as someone into lore and RP I'd be slightly upset if Minmatar got a substantial bonus to a Caldari weapon. hides Nova Knives haha Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns 51	Posted - 2014.03.24 21:31:00 - [33] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: 3. Mass driver wont recieve the bonus. Excuse me?
Orin the Freak The Solecism of Limitation 732	Posted - 2014.03.24 22:37:00 - [34] - Quote As a Minmatar lover myself, I must admit... their suits are pretty bad when compared to other races. To me, the sentinel seems particularly bad. Especially since they are nerfing damage mods (which I never spec'd into anyway. haven't had them since the beta) those 3 high slots on the heavy are pretty useless, except as an additional ~198 shield HP. This wouldn't be the case if they add high slot modules that are more valuable. I would totally spec into the Minmatar sentinel if there were resistance modules, like in EVE. Modules that would passively increase your resistance to a particular type of damage (say.. projectile, laser, hybrid/rail, or hybrid/plasma, explosive, etc.). This would give those 3 high slots actual meaning. Some are saying the Minmatar Sentinel isn't for tanking. Which, when you say it, sounds absolutely absurd. Thats what the Sentinel is supposed to be. EHP is the name of the game in the world of sentinels. You can go ahead and try to get away from my HMG, but you'll just get chased down by any other suit and dropped. Also, don't forget, Rail Rifles are still in the game, and still going to be one of the most powerful weapons. Minmatar got the shaft. across the board, plain and simple. The only redeeming suit IMO is the commando suit, and the good old logi, probably only because I'm used to the logi. If, in the future they nerf the minmatar logi's slots, I will give up on Minmatar.
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2213	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:18:00 - [35] - Quote Slot layout is not changing Minmatar assault has the best bonus. 25% great clip size for light/sidearm projectile weapons? That's awesome, my assault rifle with have tons of ammo in each clip. Not having to reload as often is a huge advantage.
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2213	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:21:00 - [36] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: This has got to be a joke post right? Leave it to minnie bastards to cry because they aren't OP enough. Your suits are all incredibly fast, get 1/2 of a free complex module (double stamina regen), the most CPU, the best strafing (SUPER important with TTK increasing), the best hacking, the best repping, insanely powerful bonuses (+8 or so complex dmg mods for a nova knife? Double the clip of the hugely boosted mass driver??? a commando bonus that applies to the most weapons?????) Seriously, how much better than all of the rest of the suits does minmatar have to be before you guys quit with your B.S. QQing? Cal scrub forgets: 1. speed doesnt matter with auto aim I will stop you right there, Sprint speed and how fast you can get to cover is ALL THAT MATTERS with auto-aim being as strong as it is. How fast you can get your HMG into someones face is important.
Nirwanda Vaughns Death Firm. 455	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:23:00 - [37] - Quote minmatar always have poor hp. in eve its not bad. we speed tank like mad. atm in dust speed tanking got nerfed and nothing was done about it. looking at the new suits its pretty clear minny are at the lower end of hp handouts in a game where running fast doesnt mean jack s*** when a rail rifle is pointing at you Rolling with the punches
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1862	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:27:00 - [38] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: This has got to be a joke post right? Leave it to minnie bastards to cry because they aren't OP enough. Your suits are all incredibly fast, get 1/2 of a free complex module (double stamina regen), the most CPU, the best strafing (SUPER important with TTK increasing), the best hacking, the best repping, insanely powerful bonuses (+8 or so complex dmg mods for a nova knife? Double the clip of the hugely boosted mass driver??? a commando bonus that applies to the most weapons?????) Seriously, how much better than all of the rest of the suits does minmatar have to be before you guys quit with your B.S. QQing? Cal scrub forgets: 1. speed doesnt matter with auto aim I will stop you right there, Sprint speed and how fast you can get to cover is ALL THAT MATTERS with auto-aim being as strong as it is. How fast you can get your HMG into someones face is important. Sprint speed doesn't matter with sloth effect, which is amplified by AA. I support SP rollover.
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 425	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:30:00 - [39] - Quote Greasepalms wrote: you dont have to carry 4 repair tools.... No, but you are penalized if you do, unlike the other logi suits that reward spamming their equipment bonus. There is no point in carrying 2 or more rep tools. Unlike the Caldari or Amarr Logi, which encourages carrying 3 of their buffed equipment. 3 buffed uplinks or nanohives are infinitely better than carrying 3 or more rep tools. I like the min logi bonus, it is just light years worse than the other bonuses when it comes to PC. If you win the rat race, you're still a rat.
Nirwanda Vaughns Death Firm. 456	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:44:00 - [40] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Greasepalms wrote: you dont have to carry 4 repair tools.... No, but you are penalized if you do, unlike the other logi suits that reward spamming their equipment bonus. There is no point in carrying 2 or more rep tools. Unlike the Caldari or Amarr Logi, which encourages carrying 3 of their buffed equipment. 3 buffed uplinks or nanohives are infinitely better than carrying 3 or more rep tools. I like the min logi bonus, it is just light years worse than the other bonuses when it comes to PC. maybe add an extra 5% per level to efficacy of hacking modules as well as the rep tool bonus Rolling with the punches

da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 563	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:47:00 - [41] - Quote Minmatar suits do suck but I'm gonna stick with the Minmatar scouts and the heavies. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 426	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:51:00 - [42] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Greasepalms wrote: you dont have to carry 4 repair tools.... No, but you are penalized if you do, unlike the other logi suits that reward spamming their equipment bonus. There is no point in carrying 2 or more rep tools. Unlike the Caldari or Amarr Logi, which encourages carrying 3 of their buffed equipment. 3 buffed uplinks or nanohives are infinitely better than carrying 3 or more rep tools. I like the min logi bonus, it is just light years worse than the other bonuses when it comes to PC. maybe add an extra 5% per level to efficacy of hacking modules as well as the rep tool bonus That would be nice, but it would tread on the min scouts territory. I would rather have one more remote explosive carried/active per level or something. Just an equipment bonus that would be as useful as the Caldari and Amarr Logi are getting. If you win the rat race, you're still a rat.
Tectonic Fusion 1296	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:51:00 - [43] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: This has got to be a joke post right? Leave it to minnie bastards to cry because they aren't OP enough. Your suits are all incredibly fast, get 1/2 of a free complex module (double stamina regen), the most CPU, the best strafing (SUPER important with TTK increasing), the best hacking, the best repping, insanely powerful bonuses (+8 or so complex dmg mods for a nova knife? Double the clip of the hugely boosted mass driver??? a commando bonus that applies to the most weapons?????) Seriously, how much better than all of the rest of the suits does minmatar have to be before you guys quit with your B.S. QQing? LOL NOOB! EHP > ALL Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 271	Posted - 2014.03.24 23:52:00 - [44] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: This has got to be a joke post right? Leave it to minnie bastards to cry because they aren't OP enough. Your suits are all incredibly fast, get 1/2 of a free complex module (double stamina regen), the most CPU, the best strafing (SUPER important with TTK increasing), the best hacking, the best repping, insanely powerful bonuses (+8 or so complex dmg mods for a nova knife? Double the clip of the hugely boosted mass driver??? a commando bonus that applies to the most weapons?????) Seriously, how much better than all of the rest of the suits does minmatar have to be before you guys quit with your B.S. QQing? the fact that you get slowed when hit and all weapons have aim assist other than gimped ones, your post is nullified. Caldari has most CPU, we just get least Pg, and second least CPU only to gallants. The assault doesn't get the explosive bonus, and i would encourage you to use a minnie (gimped) scout before you complain about how OP nova knives are LOL Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
DiablosMajora Occultum Scientia Black Flame. 3	Posted - 2014.03.25 00:01:00 - [45] - Quote Back to the Amarr basic medium frame at standard/advanced. This has been hit hard by messed up hitdetection its starting to get to where it using. Prepare you angus
The Robot Devil Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2114	Posted - 2014.03.25 00:03:00 - [46] - Quote I think that the specialized suits will add value to standard prototype suits. I may want to build a fast hacking logi that doesn't use a tool and I can use the standard suits instead of the specialized. Up until tomorrow there wasn't any reason to use a standard suit because of the built in rep. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 307	Posted - 2014.03.25 00:14:00 - [47] - Quote You're wrong. Min Logi will be crucial in PC with the rep tool bonus Min Sentinel is going to strafe in circles around tanks with a forge gun so fast the tank turret won't turn fast enough. Plus blaster resistance. Min Assault will have the largest Combat Rifle clip size and will be fast enough to use it effectively I laugh at your CR, SMG, Magsec, HMG, lasers & plasma
Nirwanda Vaughns Death Firm. 456	Posted - 2014.03.25 00:46:00 - [48] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: Greasepalms wrote: you dont have to carry 4 repair tools.... No, but you are penalized if you do, unlike the other logi suits that reward spamming their equipment bonus. There is no point in carrying 2 or more rep tools. Unlike the Caldari or Amarr Logi, which encourages carrying 3 of their buffed equipment. 3 buffed uplinks or nanohives are infinitely better than carrying 3 or more rep tools. I like the min logi bonus, it is just light years worse than the other bonuses when it comes to PC. maybe add an extra 5% per level to efficacy of hacking modules as well as the rep tool bonus That would be nice, but it would tread on the min scouts territory. I would rather have one more remote explosive carried/active per level or something. Just an equipment bonus that would be as useful as the Caldari and Amarr Logi are getting. +1 to explosives would be nice but then you risk a minny logi with all 3 types of RE or Prox and a hive spamming the s*** outta things. if it was just to prox mines it'd be nice and would really help the AV situation a lot. my AV logi can drop 15 prox mines atm if they could somehow balance it so i could drop 20 (with all 3 types) with the minmatar it'd be really nice Rolling with the punches
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2216	Posted - 2014.03.25 01:09:00 - [49] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: This has got to be a joke post right? Leave it to minnie bastards to cry because they aren't OP enough. Your suits are all incredibly fast, get 1/2 of a free complex module (double stamina regen), the most CPU, the best strafing (SUPER important with TTK increasing), the best hacking, the best repping, insanely powerful bonuses (+8 or so complex dmg mods for a nova knife? Double the clip of the hugely boosted mass driver??? a commando bonus that applies to the most weapons?????) Seriously, how much better than all of the rest of the suits does minmatar have to be before you guys quit with your B.S. QQing? Cal scrub forgets: 1. speed doesnt matter with auto aim I will stop you right there, Sprint speed and how fast you can get to cover is ALL THAT MATTERS with auto-aim being as strong as it is. How fast you can get your HMG into someones face is important. Sprint speed doesn't matter with sloth effect, which is amplified by AA. AA doesn't work through walls AA doesn't help you get to an objective faster AA doesn't get you in range of your target so you can use AA to kill them
The Robot Devil Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2114	Posted - 2014.03.25 01:47:00 - [50] - Quote bamboo x wrote: You're wrong. Min Logi will be crucial in PC with the rep tool bonus Min Sentinel is going to strafe in circles around tanks with a forge gun so fast the tank turret won't turn fast enough. Plus blaster resistance. Min Assault will have the largest Combat Rifle clip size and will be fast enough to use it effectively I hope so, I would like to do some PC in my role. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1896	Posted - 2014.03.25 01:50:00 - [51] - Quote Their scout will still be awesome especially now since they get the hacking bonus. The other suits don't fit my tastes. The assault will be cool for their weapons as it should be and the logistics is getting a more fitting role now. Don't care for heavies.
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 892	Posted - 2014.03.25 02:00:00 - [52] - Quote Minmatar is supposed to be a higher regen, lower shield ceiling version of a Caldari. Why Shanghai doesn't find this worthy is beyond me. Currently the only thing a Caldari can't do better than a minassault is strafe tank. They speed tank better(medframes here) they can stealth tank better(more lows) they can boost CPU/PG AND have a spare slot or 2 for armor. They can twintank better, as they have more PG to fit those lopsided as ** shield extenders, along with armor, damage mods, and kincats. They can fit better weapons- more PG is a bonus to all but fitting Smg's, as they cost stupid CPU. Now tell me 1 way a minmatar can achieve lower shield regen timers OR similar shield tank with similar shield rates?! Not happening. Minmatar is simply a ****, beaten up caldari frame, with an extra basic reactive plate I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 427	Posted - 2014.03.25 02:06:00 - [53] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: +1 to explosives would be nice but then you risk a minny logi with all 3 types of RE or Prox and a hive spamming the s*** outta things. if it was just to prox mines it'd be nice and would really help the AV situation a lot. my AV logi can drop 15 prox mines atm if they could somehow balance it so i could drop 20 (with all 3 types) with the minmatar it'd be really nice I can spam 18 uplinks already. I see no foul in being able to spam 20 remotes. Maybe this will finally be how we get a real solution to equipment spam, haha. If you win the rat race, you're still a rat.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1862	Posted - 2014.03.25 02:11:00 - [54] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: This has got to be a joke post right? Leave it to minnie bastards to cry because they aren't OP enough. Your suits are all incredibly fast, get 1/2 of a free complex module (double stamina regen), the most CPU, the best strafing (SUPER important with TTK increasing), the best hacking, the best repping, insanely powerful bonuses (+8 or so complex dmg mods for a nova knife? Double the clip of the hugely boosted mass driver??? a commando bonus that applies to the most weapons?????) Seriously, how much better than all of the rest of the suits does minmatar have to be before you guys quit with your B.S. QQing? Cal scrub forgets: 1. speed doesnt matter with auto aim I will stop you right there, Sprint speed and how fast you can get to cover is ALL THAT MATTERS with auto-aim being as strong as it is. How fast you can get your HMG into someones face is important. Sprint speed doesn't matter with sloth effect, which is amplified by AA. AA doesn't work through walls AA doesn't help you get to an objective faster AA doesn't get you in range of your target so you can use AA to kill them I though we were talking about getting to cover. In fact we were talking about getting to cover. That implies somebody shooting at us. But nice try. I support SP rollover.
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 277	Posted - 2014.03.25 02:43:00 - [55] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Minmatar is supposed to be a higher regen, lower shield ceiling version of a Caldari. Why Shanghai doesn't find this worthy is beyond me. Currently the only thing a Caldari can't do better than a minassault is strafe tank. They speed tank better(medframes here) they can stealth tank better(more lows) they can boost CPU/PG AND have a spare slot or 2 for armor. They can twintank better, as they have more PG to fit those lopsided as ** shield extenders, along with armor, damage mods, and kincats. They can fit better weapons- more PG is a bonus to all but fitting Smg's, as they cost stupid CPU. Now tell me 1 way a minmatar can achieve lower shield regen timers OR similar shield tank with similar shield rates?! Not happening. Minmatar is simply a ****, beaten up caldari frame, with an extra basic reactive plate pretty much summed it up brother Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Lavirac JR DUST University Ivy League 178	Posted - 2014.03.25 02:50:00 - [56] - Quote Meh, going Min commando (Got CR skilled already) and adding Massdriver. It will be good enough... A would be logi looking for heavies in all the wrong places.
Boot Booter Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 319	Posted - 2014.03.25 02:53:00 - [57] - Quote Well I'm glad everyone thinks the min assault sucks. I will continue to destroy you with it. Oh and by the way with 1.8 it will have better stamina, stamina regen, shield recharge, shield delays, and an awesome bonus to my Combat rifle (and SMG...).
Tectonic Fusion 1301	Posted - 2014.03.25 04:21:00 - [58] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Well I'm glad everyone thinks the min assault sucks. I will continue to destroy you with it. Oh and by the way with 1.8 it will have better stamina, stamina regen, shield recharge, shield delays, and an awesome bonus to my Combat rifle (and SMG...). Yeah. It looks nice! Yet the noobs don't realize how powerful it is... I will skill into the Caldari scout because that is my playstyle, but you have fun with your suit. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 898	Posted - 2014.03.25 05:17:00 - [59] - Quote I'll still have my Min assault, that's for damned sure. Just... Not that competitive in PC with 12 people trying to kill 6 guys on a point. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Rusty Shallows 1237	Posted - 2014.03.25 05:54:00 - [60] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Toby Flenderson wrote: Haha oh no, a logi being forced to be a medic. What is Dust coming too... Tch.. Minmatar Logis have never been about being medics. Anyone who skilled into them did so with the intent of being a super hacker on crack. However, that's no longer a problem seeing as how the Minmatar will still have the fastest Logi hacker. In all, the MinLogi will still be relatively decent. It does possess the best slot layout for any frame in the game. The only downside is it's low HP: something that does not compliment its suit bonus. I used one back in Chrome as part of the Logi Bro 'Sever' craze. Trained for it in Uprising on the Medic ALT because CCP forced me. The hacking speed has always been a bonus. Playing these few last hours before 1.8 I can safely said any of us who did stay in the role late into Uprising are all clinically insane. This really sucks, time for something new. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game



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