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LT Shanx
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.24 11:18:00 -
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As much as I love Minnies, I just can't bring myself to continue using their dropsuits in 1.8.
Assaults with horrible slot layouts, squishy Logis who are forced to be medics, Heavies who will get torn to shreds by other Heavies, Scouts with Caldari weaponry bonuses--I just can't do it. They're all too squishy...
It's been a fun ride, but I'm going to have to let you go.
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
376
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Posted - 2014.03.24 11:19:00 -
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Haha oh no, a logi being forced to be a medic. What is Dust coming too... |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
2140
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Posted - 2014.03.24 11:21:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:Haha oh no, a logi being forced to be a medic. What is Dust coming too...
Logistics means more than medic, this includes Intel gathering, resupplying, av via explosives etc. The bonus forces the minmatar to be a medic.
For the Federation!
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
511
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Posted - 2014.03.24 11:25:00 -
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you dont have to carry 4 repair tools.... |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1680
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Posted - 2014.03.24 11:26:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:Haha oh no, a logi being forced to be a medic. What is Dust coming too...
Tch.. Minmatar Logis have never been about being medics. Anyone who skilled into them did so with the intent of being a super hacker on crack. However, that's no longer a problem seeing as how the Minmatar will still have the fastest Logi hacker.
In all, the MinLogi will still be relatively decent. It does possess the best slot layout for any frame in the game. The only downside is it's low HP: something that does not compliment its suit bonus. |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
1003
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Posted - 2014.03.24 11:36:00 -
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you can still run the min logi any way you want. But if you choose to rep then you'll do it better than another logi.
As to the other min suits I'm really looking forward to the 3/4 sec TOTAL stamina regen  as well as better shield regen compared to now.
Yes the Min sentinel will struggle against other sentinels but it'll be surprisingly quick - ever so slightly faster than current Commando.
I'm going to slap an assault HMG on it and use the extra manoeuvrability to surprise a few folks. Any sentinels try to come close I'll just slip away - in true minmatar style 
Heaven forbid they make a sentinel that asks you to be clever and not just steamroll in 
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
735
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Posted - 2014.03.24 11:42:00 -
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I choose my suits on what I find fun, not which has the best min/max stats and I love ALL of the bonuses on all Min suits.
The scout bonus will probably be switches to Matari blades when they hit, the current is just a place holder. Hack bonus and cloak hacking is win. Also, dat speed and stamina regen...
The logi bonus doesn't exclude it from doing other logi things. By that logic all of the logi suits now suck (which may well be the opinion of some people). Personally, I like the logi suit because it has 20% hack speed and the highest stamina regen rate among logi suits. Also, since HP bars became visible with repper, healing is fun and allows me to assess and prioritise who needs healing more. Really, all of the other bonuses are quite boring in comparison, I#d rather be actively involved in using my bonus rather than have it being something I drop and leave and that can potentially be destroyed by the enemy. It's my fav logi item so I'm very pleased with the bonus.
The commando gets a bonus to my two fav weapons and the assault too (+SMG).
Matari are squishy but have the highest stamina regen across the board because you're supposed to hit and run not stand and deliver. At least that's the mentality I run with.
Most important is to be happy with what you use and enjoy it's playstyle. If Minmatar gear isn't doing that for you then it's best to move on. Good luck!
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Roll with the punches instead of QQing
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Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T.
Legacy Rising
83
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Posted - 2014.03.24 11:51:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:you dont have to carry 4 repair tools....
I have a fit that does just for some good ol' S&G.
"Any job worth doing with a laser is worth doing with many, many lasers." - Unknown
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
806
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Posted - 2014.03.24 11:55:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Haha oh no, a logi being forced to be a medic. What is Dust coming too... Logistics means more than medic, this includes Intel gathering, resupplying, av via explosives etc. The bonus forces the minmatar to be a medic.
He still can do all this at least at decent levels, he is just better as a medic then everyone else.
You can still use every piece of equipment to the same degree like any suit (apart of the specialized ones)...
BTW Intel gathering should be the scouts first and primary task that's why they are called scouts...sadly CCP removed this for some reason from scouts... |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4763
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:54:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Haha oh no, a logi being forced to be a medic. What is Dust coming too... Logistics means more than medic, this includes Intel gathering, resupplying, av via explosives etc. The bonus forces the minmatar to be a medic.
You don't have to be a medic. That's just their skill.
For example, the Minmatar Scout gets a bonus to NK's, you don't have to be a ninja though.
There's also no rule that says the Minmatar Logi can't carry other equipment.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
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Emperor1349
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
48
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:58:00 -
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I'm still going to be laying people down in a minmatar assault, sucks they are all going to be dancing around now instead of dying when you put a whole clip in their chest.
R.I.P Mag - SVER
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
3422
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:06:00 -
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Hoover Damn wrote:Greasepalms wrote:you dont have to carry 4 repair tools.... I have a fit that does just for some good ol' S&G.
A Six Kin Triage and Core Focused wouldn't be a bad combo actually.
Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
384
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:06:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Haha oh no, a logi being forced to be a medic. What is Dust coming too... Logistics means more than medic, this includes Intel gathering, resupplying, av via explosives etc. The bonus forces the minmatar to be a medic.
It still has a 20% hack bonus. It can still carry remote/proxy mines. It has a a larger scan radius I believe. I don't understand how you think it won't be able to do those things. Just because the logos have a bonus to one type of equipment does not mean the rest of the equipment becomes useless haha. This suit is hardly being forced into anything, at the very least no more/less than the rest of the logis |
shadow drake35
the third day
Galactic Skyfleet Empire
88
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:07:00 -
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logistics is a team support
MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster
3110
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:14:00 -
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I think the Amar Logi will be the best suit for the repair tool because it can survive much longer on the front lines. You don't need to be the fastest suit when you are tethered to the slowest, you need eHP.
The Minmitar would have been better off with the uplink bonus as that complements its speed and stamina.
But, CCP... |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Vanguard of the Phoenix
512
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:15:00 -
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This has got to be a joke post right?
Leave it to minnie bastards to cry because they aren't OP enough.
Your suits are all incredibly fast, get 1/2 of a free complex module (double stamina regen), the most CPU, the best strafing (SUPER important with TTK increasing), the best hacking, the best repping, insanely powerful bonuses (+8 or so complex dmg mods for a nova knife? Double the clip of the hugely boosted mass driver??? a commando bonus that applies to the most weapons?????)
Seriously, how much better than all of the rest of the suits does minmatar have to be before you guys quit with your B.S. QQing?
"We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Vanguard of the Phoenix
512
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:16:00 -
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Skihids wrote:I think the Amar Logi will be the best suit for the repair tool because it can survive much longer on the front lines. You don't need to be the fastest suit when you are tethered to the slowest, you need eHP.
The Minmitar would have been better off with the uplink bonus as that compliments its speed and stamina.
But, CCP...
Only if you are a dummy. You will have 50% more range than the other logis, don't stand in the open like you don't have a brain.
"We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster
3110
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:17:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:Skihids wrote:I think the Amar Logi will be the best suit for the repair tool because it can survive much longer on the front lines. You don't need to be the fastest suit when you are tethered to the slowest, you need eHP.
The Minmitar would have been better off with the uplink bonus as that compliments its speed and stamina.
But, CCP... Only if you are a dummy. You will have 50% more range than the other logis, don't stand in the open like you don't have a brain.
Try that indoors where the heavy is most at home.
They are always turning corners and breaking lock unless you are right behind them. |
Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
279
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:21:00 -
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Do swarms count as explosive weapons?
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
745
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:22:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:This has got to be a joke post right?
Leave it to minnie bastards to cry because they aren't OP enough.
Your suits are all incredibly fast, get 1/2 of a free complex module (double stamina regen), the most CPU, the best strafing (SUPER important with TTK increasing), the best hacking, the best repping, insanely powerful bonuses (+8 or so complex dmg mods for a nova knife? Double the clip of the hugely boosted mass driver??? a commando bonus that applies to the most weapons?????)
Seriously, how much better than all of the rest of the suits does minmatar have to be before you guys quit with your B.S. QQing?
Bu...bu...but we don't have as much base eHP!!!!!! QQ
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
745
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:24:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:Do swarms count as explosive weapons?
They do and are thus included in the Commando bonus.
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6095
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:27:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:This has got to be a joke post right?
Leave it to minnie bastards to cry because they aren't OP enough.
Your suits are all incredibly fast, get 1/2 of a free complex module (double stamina regen), the most CPU, the best strafing (SUPER important with TTK increasing), the best hacking, the best repping, insanely powerful bonuses (+8 or so complex dmg mods for a nova knife? Double the clip of the hugely boosted mass driver??? a commando bonus that applies to the most weapons?????)
Seriously, how much better than all of the rest of the suits does minmatar have to be before you guys quit with your B.S. QQing?
linky
The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers"
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
3707
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:28:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Haha oh no, a logi being forced to be a medic. What is Dust coming too... Logistics means more than medic, this includes Intel gathering, resupplying, av via explosives etc. The bonus encourages the minmatar to be a medic.
FTFY
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4766
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:01:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:Do swarms count as explosive weapons? They do and are thus included in the Commando bonus.
No, they're counted as missiles so they won't be included in the Minmatar bonus.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
51
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:08:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:Do swarms count as explosive weapons? They do and are thus included in the Commando bonus. No, they're counted as missiles so they won't be included in the Minmatar bonus.
This.
They're Caldari tech (iirc), not Minmatar. |
COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
747
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:09:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:Do swarms count as explosive weapons? They do and are thus included in the Commando bonus. No, they're counted as missiles so they won't be included in the Minmatar bonus.
Oh, did CCP Remnant change his mind?
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
758
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:12:00 -
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I love my minja. Stop with the QQ and making the rest of us look bad.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
51
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:13:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:Do swarms count as explosive weapons? They do and are thus included in the Commando bonus. No, they're counted as missiles so they won't be included in the Minmatar bonus. Oh, did CCP Remnant change his mind?
Even though they do explosive damage for some reason I recall being told they would not benefit from the Commando bonus. |
COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
747
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:16:00 -
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Zaaeed Massani wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Dauth Jenkins wrote:Do swarms count as explosive weapons? They do and are thus included in the Commando bonus. No, they're counted as missiles so they won't be included in the Minmatar bonus. Oh, did CCP Remnant change his mind? Even though they do explosive damage for some reason I recall being told they would not benefit from the Commando bonus.
Hmmm, That's unfortunate if true but good for the overall consistency of the new marriage of race and role.
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
51
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:20:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Zaaeed Massani wrote:
Even though they do explosive damage for some reason I recall being told they would not benefit from the Commando bonus.
Hmmm, That's unfortunate if true but good for the overall consistency of the new marriage of race and role.
Yeah, as someone into lore and RP I'd be slightly upset if Minmatar got a substantial bonus to a Caldari weapon. |
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