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Embry Laughton
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.24 00:41:00 -
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(Can I be cool too?!)
You have felt the cold wind. Blowing in the north of all our hearts. Always leading us back to here. For us there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm. But that is what is best in life. To crush our enemies. Drive them before us, and hear the lamentation of their women!
The Gallente wish to rob us of our world, our wealth, and our identity. But like all storms, they shall pass in the wind. Feel the strength of the cold wind in your heart, and be the force of the storm wind on the field. Through unity, we shall prevail. In time, the wind shall bring spring, and our people will flourish.
Hale Sentra
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI
Proficiency V.
577
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Posted - 2014.03.24 00:53:00 -
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I can not stop laughing. Man I find this hilarious.
Why would you want caldari prime? Is it over principle. The crash zone of the leviathan is a utter wasteland.
Pair of pop rocks? Pair of docks? No silly Paradox WAIT!
Volunteer member of the Arkombine, but i don't want out.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8732
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Posted - 2014.03.24 03:40:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:I can not stop laughing. Man I find this hilarious.
Why would you want caldari prime? Is it over principle. The crash zone of the leviathan is a utter wasteland.
There is a righteous purpose in Reclamation. Both of something you own, and in the delivery of Justice.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Dagger-Two
Tharumec
Villore Accords
262
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Posted - 2014.03.24 04:00:00 -
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Both sides have searched for 'justice' on Caldari Prime, and it has brought nothing but pain.
Terrible things happened in the past, things both the Caldari and Gallente were responsible for, all from the rift of bringing an entire people into the fold of a society they clearly did not belong in, which clashed with their traditions and culture.
That divide was like a wound from which only hate poured forth, but it is a wound that has long since begun to heal, and would close completely if only both sides would stop picking at it.
Yes, the Caldari and Gallente have a bloody past, but focusing on that past is not benefiting anyone.
It is the reason Caldari Prime is even an issue to begin with. Being located in the heart of the Federation, it is a simple matter to see why the Gallente fight over it, why it was important to hold it. It was never about driving the Caldari from their homes, but about driving an enemy from the heart of the Federation.
But that was nearly two hundred years ago. I think to think that if cooler heads were simply allowed to prevail, the two would no longer have to see each other as enemies.
BOTH sides have much to gain from the other, especially in the economic and social sectors, if they would cast aside their old grievances and start anew. More so than any other empires, they have the capacity to become allies, or better yet, friends.
If and When this happens, the Caldari will be welcomed back to Luminaire, to the home they so desperately long for, and perhaps a new era of mutual trust and cooperation could take hold.
Kador, the way you speak of righteous purpose makes it sound like you advocate Caldari making violence against the Gallente, in the search of 'justice', for crimes against their people.
Can one assume that you also feel Minmatar violence against your own people is justified and righteous, for the terrible things the Amarr have done to them in the past? After all, is that not the delivery of justice? Were they not wronged, like the Caldari were, and should seek violent retribution?
Are they not reclaiming something stolen from them?
Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1358
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Posted - 2014.03.24 04:46:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Both sides have searched for 'justice' on Caldari Prime, and it has brought nothing but pain.
Terrible things happened in the past, things both the Caldari and Gallente were responsible for, all from the rift of bringing an entire people into the fold of a society they clearly did not belong in, which clashed with their traditions and culture.
That divide was like a wound from which only hate poured forth, but it is a wound that has long since begun to heal, and would close completely if only both sides would stop picking at it.
Yes, the Caldari and Gallente have a bloody past, but focusing on that past is not benefiting anyone.
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BOTH sides have much to gain from the other, especially in the economic and social sectors, if they would cast aside their old grievances and start anew. More so than any other empires, they have the capacity to become allies, or better yet, friends.
If and When this happens, the Caldari will be welcomed back to Luminaire, to the home they so desperately long for, and perhaps a new era of mutual trust and cooperation could take hold.
Well said the history of Caldari and Gallente have mostly been nothing but bloodshed and hatred towards one another due to events that happened centuries ago. And while the battle for Caldari Prime was a horrible disaster on the planet, it did start the demilitarization agreement that let Gallente and Caldari coexist on Caldari Prime.
However, I do not think the Caldari and Gallente will never become allies, due to the sheer difference in their social structures. Caldari are about sacrificing oneself for the benefit of the group, and not making compromises when it comes to their culture, while Gallente are all about individualism and capitalism. After all, the only Gallente corporation Caldari recognize is Quafe, and their alliance with Amarr is mostly based on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
I do hope though that in the least, the Caldari and Gallente can coexist peacefully, and the demilitarization agreement is a step in the right direction.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Mar. 22nd
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
247
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Posted - 2014.03.24 05:00:00 -
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Oh look, another 'inspirational' post about how we are going to 'win' the 'war.'
The Academy really needs to revoke cadets' privileges to post on military comms until they graduate.
"On the Leviathan's back will our civilization be carried home and the taint of the Enemy purged from our souls."
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1358
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Posted - 2014.03.24 05:07:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Oh look, another 'inspirational' post about how we are going to 'win' the 'war.'
The Academy really needs to revoke cadets' privileges to post on military comms until they graduate.
You should see the other two posts, this one is especially redicilous.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Mar. 22nd
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
247
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Posted - 2014.03.24 05:13:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Oh look, another 'inspirational' post about how we are going to 'win' the 'war.'
The Academy really needs to revoke cadets' privileges to post on military comms until they graduate. You should see the other two posts, this one is especially redicilous.
And the Peacekeepers wonder why I haven't run operations with them recently. Frankly at this point I find there is more good to be done in privatized armies fighting for specific goals. These days the Peacekeepers are nothing more than a way of draining Federation resources anyway.
"On the Leviathan's back will our civilization be carried home and the taint of the Enemy purged from our souls."
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Dagger-Two
Tharumec
Villore Accords
262
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Posted - 2014.03.24 05:18:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:Both sides have searched for 'justice' on Caldari Prime, and it has brought nothing but pain.
Terrible things happened in the past, things both the Caldari and Gallente were responsible for, all from the rift of bringing an entire people into the fold of a society they clearly did not belong in, which clashed with their traditions and culture.
That divide was like a wound from which only hate poured forth, but it is a wound that has long since begun to heal, and would close completely if only both sides would stop picking at it.
Yes, the Caldari and Gallente have a bloody past, but focusing on that past is not benefiting anyone.
...
BOTH sides have much to gain from the other, especially in the economic and social sectors, if they would cast aside their old grievances and start anew. More so than any other empires, they have the capacity to become allies, or better yet, friends.
If and When this happens, the Caldari will be welcomed back to Luminaire, to the home they so desperately long for, and perhaps a new era of mutual trust and cooperation could take hold. Well said the history of Caldari and Gallente have mostly been nothing but bloodshed and hatred towards one another due to events that happened centuries ago. And while the battle for Caldari Prime was a horrible disaster on the planet, it did start the demilitarization agreement that let Gallente and Caldari coexist on Caldari Prime. However, I do not think the Caldari and Gallente will never become allies, due to the sheer difference in their social structures. Caldari are about sacrificing oneself for the benefit of the group, and not making compromises when it comes to their culture, while Gallente are all about individualism and capitalism. After all, the only Gallente corporation Caldari recognize is Quafe, and their alliance with Amarr is mostly based on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". I do hope though that in the least, the Caldari and Gallente can coexist peacefully, and the demilitarization agreement is a step in the right direction.
You see, I do not believe that the difference in culture or social structure are of any hindrance to mutual trust and cooperation. People are different, they behave differently and see the world from different points of view. ACCEPTANCE of these differences is all that is needed.
As long as it is clearly understood that the cultures are different, and no attempts should ever be made by one to influence or change the other, then there should be no issues.
The Caldari are just as capitalist as the Gallente (in fact, I would argue even more so, since the very core of their society is structured around corporations) but having that in common is an economic STRENGTH. Cultural differences can be taken out of the picture completely if both sides simply set mutually agreed upon trade agreements and restrictions.
Socially their cultural differences could even have a POSITIVE effect on one another. I think the Caldari people could benefit from a little bit of exposure to Gallente individualism, while the Gallente people could benefit from the strong sense of honor and duty to their people that the Caldari share. Exposure, in small amounts, with reasonable limitations to create a bridge of understanding across the culture gap.
Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
699
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:12:00 -
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Dagger two you are hopeful, but the sheer thought of being friends with the Federation brings me hatred in my heart. The pain in between our two empires is to great if we ever become neutral again that's all it will become, neutrality.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
699
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:16:00 -
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Wrong thread.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Embry Laughton
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:49:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:I can not stop laughing. Man I find this hilarious.
Why would you want caldari prime? Is it over principle. The crash zone of the leviathan is a utter wasteland.
One's home is one's home, no matter what the storm's winds bring. I would think the Amarr would recognize faith in something, possibly even respecting it.
Galm Fae wrote:Oh look, another 'inspirational' post about how we are going to 'win' the 'war.'
The Academy really needs to revoke cadets' privileges to post on military comms until they graduate.
You don't have to read posts calling for the Caldari people to stand strong. There are plenty of news posts, entertainment posts, and posts debating various topics. I'm sure you can find something to hold your attention with less disrespect...or so I would hope. I merely wanted to offer something of more substance, and cultural sound than what has been posted recently in the way of motivating the Caldari people.
Hale Sentra
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Dagger-Two
Tharumec
Villore Accords
262
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:59:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Dagger two you are hopeful, but the sheer thought of being friends with the Federation brings me hatred in my heart. The pain in between our two empires is to great if we ever become neutral again that's all it will become, neutrality.
Clinging to that hatred will only cause more pain to both peoples.
Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI
Proficiency V.
578
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:33:00 -
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Embry Laughton wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:I can not stop laughing. Man I find this hilarious.
Why would you want caldari prime? Is it over principle. The crash zone of the leviathan is a utter wasteland. One's home is one's home, no matter what the storm's winds bring. I would think the Amarr would recognize faith in something, possibly even respecting it.
Oh please stop! You're going to make me fall out of my chair. You just made the joke even better! Going back to a piece trash because it use to be a beautiful jewel. Wow members of the caldari and gallente miltia fight over a piece of trash. I could go to jita buy some homeless and throw a few pieces of bread into a ring and watch them fight to the death. Next time you wanted to participate in a stupid fight i can pick you up from jita for free.
Pair of pop rocks? Pair of docks? No silly Paradox WAIT!
Volunteer member of the Arkombine, but i don't want out.
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Embry Laughton
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:42:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Embry Laughton wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:I can not stop laughing. Man I find this hilarious.
Why would you want caldari prime? Is it over principle. The crash zone of the leviathan is a utter wasteland. One's home is one's home, no matter what the storm's winds bring. I would think the Amarr would recognize faith in something, possibly even respecting it. Oh please stop! You're going to make me fall out of my chair. You just made the joke even better! Going back to a piece trash because it use to be a beautiful jewel. Wow members of the caldari and gallente miltia fight over a piece of trash. I could go to jita buy some homeless and throw a few pieces of bread into a ring and watch them fight to the death. Next time you wanted to participate in a stupid fight i can pick you up from jita for free.
Just because you do not see the value of something does not mean that it is without value. So please, if you must continue to comment, make it worth our time to pay it any attention.
Hale Sentra
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8780
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:00:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Embry Laughton wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:I can not stop laughing. Man I find this hilarious.
Why would you want caldari prime? Is it over principle. The crash zone of the leviathan is a utter wasteland. One's home is one's home, no matter what the storm's winds bring. I would think the Amarr would recognize faith in something, possibly even respecting it. Oh please stop! You're going to make me fall out of my chair. You just made the joke even better! Going back to a piece trash because it use to be a beautiful jewel. Wow members of the caldari and gallente miltia fight over a piece of trash. I could go to jita buy some homeless and throw a few pieces of bread into a ring and watch them fight to the death. Next time you wanted to participate in a stupid fight i can pick you up from jita for free.
It's the equivalent of the way I look at you Knight..... you have nothing. ISK, Arkombine.... you very goals, very being is lesser. And while it pains me to see and Amarrian fall to such baseness.... your path to that point has been nothing short of amusing.
You have neither the right nor the moral stand point to make derisive statements regarding ones purpose or dream,
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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