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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.23 00:51:00 -
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Brilliant scheming...
After the first major coordinated battle against them -- losing far more than they won, and seeing they stood little chance of the risk-free domination they had enjoyed for months -- NF decides to pick off most of the powerbase of TSO by offering them the ability to print isk for the foreseeable future.
Smart move, but is it gamebreaking enough to force CCPs hand?
Or, the better question: Is the attractive force of isk printing greater than the repulsive force of big egos?
Time will tell...Leadfoot |
iliel
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
16
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:30:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:Thor you obviously care about this topic too much seeing how you respond to any comment directed in your way. So let me enlighten you - first off xOscar doesn't sit on the bench, but nice try. Secondly, you say you are not acting out of jealousy but let's be honest: your crying, your whining and what's funny is there is nothing you can do about it.
You mention of, fat wallets. Your would be correct. So Molon Labe. can't defend their districts and is notorious for district locking. And now a peasant has the audacity to cry about losing districts they never even deserved in the first place. Well wake up sweet cheeks, nothing is free in life. Something your parents told you way back when we were all little toots.
So please continue to fill up our pool of tears, Marauder and Roner especially, need their bath at 6 PM every day. And please don't let Roner pee in the pool again. Yoshi went over and started drinking it last time, so I had to put up with his god awful breath all day.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." I'm just calling it like I see it. I think others should too. The mechanics of PC have allowed for small elite groups to dominate vast amounts of land that on paper seem impossible to hold. While CCP figures out how to make PC a realistic goal for 95% of it's playerbase a very select few will print ISK for months. That's game breaking in my opinion. On a competitive level it's not very impressive what you guys have decided to do. Financially I don't understand why you guys didn't do it 8 months ago. I wish you would have. Perhaps CCP would have stopped kicking the can down the road. Say whatever you want about me or my corp but we've been around a long time when 90% of corps threw up their hands about PC. PC isn't easy, and it shouldn't be. We started locking districts when it was TP, AE, OH, STB and a few others participating in PC. Every match it seemed like a who's who of Dust so it burnt a lot of our guys out. We figured we didn't need to be poor when PC opened up again. I guess it would have been better to buy a bunch of districts and pay you guys to protect them. That's what it felt like our choices were at the time. If Molon Labe isn't good enough for PC then good luck with your game mode. Maybe I'm crazy, but this doesn't seem like long term success for Dust's premier game mode to be dominated by a couple hundred dudes.
I don't understand. Are you suggesting that in reality more people implies broader sovereignty? If so it seems to be a good thing that you find DNS' domination of MH to be so 'game breaking' - - since it might be useful to take a break and read some books on world history. |
Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5193
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:47:00 -
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Nah DNS is worse, much worse. Its a whole new breed of evil and carebear-ness.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
878
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Posted - 2014.03.23 03:06:00 -
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iliel wrote:I don't understand. Are you suggesting that in reality more people implies broader sovereignty? If so it seems to be a good thing that you find DNS' domination of MH to be so 'game breaking' - - since it might be useful to take a break and read some books on world history.
WTF does world history have to do with breaking PC?
Don't be obtuse.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
3129
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Posted - 2014.03.23 03:08:00 -
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I don't think the community is strong enough to unite as one to take down DNS...
Selling Templar BPO's Last of the BPO's(Click link)
I feed off your tears
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
802
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Posted - 2014.03.23 03:11:00 -
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Well, you know my opinion.
Unleash the Fogwoggler
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Lunatic Kota
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
56
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Posted - 2014.03.23 03:27:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:I predict an ERA of Wealth, Peace, and Prosperity... true stabilization to Molden Heath .
I predict sandwiches at the end of this journey Sir Reginald. I love how "More Lube" is complaining and stirring up crap. The term "Molon Labe" means "come and take." Well, we take that as an open invitation.
There's a message in my Cheerios!
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2061
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Posted - 2014.03.23 04:12:00 -
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I'm sorry but any corp that locked districts (which is everyone in pc) shouldn't talk **** about game breaking anything.
All this shows is that dust is full of self-entitled crybabys. Also do I need to bring up that TSO trying to secure a None Aggression Pact with NF while supporting NF helping FA attempt to remove AE from PC. This would have given TSO pretty much the run of PC land.
So maybe molon labia, just maybe you should just go back to playing pubs because there has been a sudden shortage of vagisil in the molden heath region. Gods know you seem quiet irritable without it
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
131
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Posted - 2014.03.23 04:18:00 -
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Doesn't really matter either way. PC is an absolute joke anyway. Seriously, who wants to make plans to form around a video game? Apparently not many people, and those few major corps who do decide to take part make hundreds of millions a day from it. I honestly don't know why CCP haven't just swapped PC out for corp battles, yet. Right now it's a place to farm ISK.
My 1.8 fit
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3233
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Posted - 2014.03.23 04:37:00 -
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x0scarMike wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:x0scarMike wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Killar-12 wrote:so Tso's is the new LoI/CRONOS/FEC then... So you still want to gargle on Kain's ******* after he effectively destroys one of the 5 game modes in Dust? Are you mad because you guys suck at PC... Well you probably are and don't have to admit it but it's your own fault for getting no PC experience but instead locking for several months. It's ok, your acting out because of jealousy. Jealousy? I could have jumped into a corp to sit on the bench and act like I'm good at Dust too. How do i sit bench, I have been in 9/10 PC's last two months? please explain?
It sounded good at the time and I think you are a prick
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Level 3 Forum Warrior
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Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
160
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Posted - 2014.03.23 06:40:00 -
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Disclaimer: Normally I keep to myself and stay out of political stuff like this. But when it comes to expressing opinion, then it might as well be said instead of being muted. Also no crying or whining here
Planetary Conquest, a game mode put to professional levels of game play utilizing the up-most in teamwork, planning, and executing the plans given in order to claim a district in hopes of taking over the galaxy. Catch was you were not safe at any moment in time. Someone could attack you when you were attacking someone else. This meant you needed more people or an alliance to help out. That was the main intent of the game mode.
But all it took was one person to exploit the glitches found inside the game mode i.e. district locking and ISK farming. Once that started happening everyone else who seen this wanted in but needed outside help to get to. This lead to a bunch of problems, problems that people call "super powers". The one I can recall quickly was when EoN. came to power and had people teaming up with them effectively taking over MH. Hell there was an alliance before EoN. doing the same thing. Eventually there will be people fed up with this leading to all out wars i.e. FEC vs. EoN. Keep in mind that FEC as well as many others promise to knock down the big power and will make sure it will not happen again.
I SMELL BULLS*IT. To anyone believing that lie should know that when you knock down a big power and bigger one comes along and so on and so forth. Example, who is in power now? AE, NS, and etc.. Recall that AE was with the FEC during that war giving empty promises like the other big powers did.
It gets worse. When a new big power comes in everyone rushes to side with that new power. One they get in they feel entitle to something like they were supposed to have something i.e. ISK and a numerous districts. Example Nyain San teaming up with only the biggest power in Planetary Conquest (not 100% sure on this). They did for a time being teamed up with EoN. only to leave because EoN. was dying. Next they joined up with AE to secure their district (again not sure). Not only that but if they win one or buy one they have the timers set at times no one else can attack unless they are in the same area they live in (another exploit).
TL:DR? To me Planetary Conquest lost it's true roots. Why? Here is a list of things why:
- I understand joining up with bigger power means no one will dare mess with you. To me that pretty much tells me that I "beat the game". When that happens it get boring with nothing to do. Sure that the power is having fun but there are people within that power growing tired of it. With no competition means no challenge what-so-ever, no challenge the game gets boring
- Entitlement never existed in Planetary Conquest. Example would be (and this is strange to pull this up) PFC and management of it. No crying here nor anger again opinion and perspective. To vote for people to be in or out of PFC soulds like entitlement from the voters. Think about it. Would you want to vote some corp who is powerful into PFC? Some would say yes for the challenge some would say no because they do not want to lose what they were entitled to and killing off their ISK supply
- ISK farming and district locking. Need I say more?
- Paying people to give you protection in Planetary Conquest knowing good well you do not have the man power to secure that district anyways. Doing this only gives a false sense of hope i.e people playing to keep their districts in PFC.
- Cannot believe this made the list but showing off your ego........ on the internet.... on the forums...... in the war room..... So much for staying classy and being a good sport. Nor you can say anything without anyone taking it the wrong way
Take it as you want. Your opinion, your speech, your voice, screw everyone else who tells you that you cannot do the following. Also I am pretty sure that Nyain San can take care of themselves without any help at this point
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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Moorian Flav
155
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Posted - 2014.03.23 07:02:00 -
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Simply answering the subject question: No, EoN had one outstanding corp (TP) and an endless supply of ringers to fend off actual threats while DNS has several outstanding corps that can hold their own while also having an endless supply of ringers. If you thought EoN was unbeatable in their hayday then you're simply SoL if you are expected to fight DNS. In short, DNS is (currently) EoN to the 5th power.
I don't troll; I tell the truth.
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Presidente Quez
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.23 08:32:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:Simply answering the subject question: No, EoN had one outstanding corp (TP) and an endless supply of ringers to fend off actual threats while DNS has several outstanding corps that can hold their own while also having an endless supply of ringers. If you thought EoN was unbeatable in their hayday then you're simply SoL if you are expected to fight DNS. In short, DNS is (currently) EoN to the 5th power. So basically no one stands a chance.
Butthurt tryhards
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
307
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Posted - 2014.03.23 08:46:00 -
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Presidente Quez wrote:Moorian Flav wrote:Simply answering the subject question: No, EoN had one outstanding corp (TP) and an endless supply of ringers to fend off actual threats while DNS has several outstanding corps that can hold their own while also having an endless supply of ringers. If you thought EoN was unbeatable in their hayday then you're simply SoL if you are expected to fight DNS. In short, DNS is (currently) EoN to the 5th power. So basically no one stands a chance.
No it's more like this.
We can pickle that.
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Appia Nappia
Nos Nothi
409
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Posted - 2014.03.23 08:51:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I don't think the community is strong enough to unite as one to take down DNS...
A lot of people seem to be talking sh*t about DNS but no one seems to be able to do anything about it, or even try to take them down i assume they will control 100% of Molden heath by the end of the month and be virtually unopposed.
At the end of the day i'm rich so i don't care that much for the troubles of MH. I'm on the side who funds my proto gear.
lol, before being kicked for being a little *****, I told them any coalition trying to attack would just result in more districts being gained than lost. The death of EoN was from people not caring about DUST anymore and moving on to other games, never to return. The end of DNS's reign will be the same. The people that like ISK farming to continue pub-stomping in full proto gear and not caring about the ISK lost per match will keep playing. The people that liked the competitive aspect will slowly stop logging on to the point when there won't be enough for a full 16 of one corp.
All they're doing is bleeding off the competition, not through isk attrition or through superior skill, but by way of stagnation.
Secretly Appia Vibbia
If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
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Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
162
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Posted - 2014.03.23 18:25:00 -
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Appia Nappia wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I don't think the community is strong enough to unite as one to take down DNS...
A lot of people seem to be talking sh*t about DNS but no one seems to be able to do anything about it, or even try to take them down i assume they will control 100% of Molden heath by the end of the month and be virtually unopposed.
At the end of the day i'm rich so i don't care that much for the troubles of MH. I'm on the side who funds my proto gear. lol, before being kicked for being a little *****, I told them any coalition trying to attack would just result in more districts being gained than lost. The death of EoN was from people not caring about DUST anymore and moving on to other games, never to return. The end of DNS's reign will be the same. The people that like ISK farming to continue pub-stomping in full proto gear and not caring about the ISK lost per match will keep playing. The people that liked the competitive aspect will slowly stop logging on to the point when there won't be enough for a full 16 of one corp. All they're doing is bleeding off the competition, not through isk attrition or through superior skill, but by way of stagnation.
100% agree with everything.
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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Eugene Killmore
Red Star. EoN.
358
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Posted - 2014.03.23 21:42:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:Simply answering the subject question: No, EoN had one outstanding corp (TP) and an endless supply of ringers to fend off actual threats while DNS has several outstanding corps that can hold their own while also having an endless supply of ringers. If you thought EoN was unbeatable in their hayday then you're simply SoL if you are expected to fight DNS. In short, DNS is (currently) EoN to the 5th power. EoN had 1 outstanding corp? RND? SyN? Not Guilty? Were you even around then?
Space biggie said "More ISK More Problems"
Forever repping that Red*Star 666 illuminati thug mafia.
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Scrappy Bernard
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2014.03.23 21:46:00 -
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Eugene Killmore wrote:Moorian Flav wrote:Simply answering the subject question: No, EoN had one outstanding corp (TP) and an endless supply of ringers to fend off actual threats while DNS has several outstanding corps that can hold their own while also having an endless supply of ringers. If you thought EoN was unbeatable in their hayday then you're simply SoL if you are expected to fight DNS. In short, DNS is (currently) EoN to the 5th power. EoN had 1 outstanding corp? RND? SyN? Not Guilty? Were you even around then?
Everyone knew all the rest of TP and friends were good, but not even in the same league as TP.
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1491
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Posted - 2014.03.23 22:07:00 -
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Scrappy Bernard wrote:Eugene Killmore wrote:Moorian Flav wrote:Simply answering the subject question: No, EoN had one outstanding corp (TP) and an endless supply of ringers to fend off actual threats while DNS has several outstanding corps that can hold their own while also having an endless supply of ringers. If you thought EoN was unbeatable in their hayday then you're simply SoL if you are expected to fight DNS. In short, DNS is (currently) EoN to the 5th power. EoN had 1 outstanding corp? RND? SyN? Not Guilty? Were you even around then? Everyone knew all the rest of TP and friends were good, but not even in the same league as TP.
RND taught TP what they knew...or was that Synergy? Have you forgotten THE Mavado?
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE. Top Men.
2502
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:30:00 -
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Moorian Flav wrote:Simply answering the subject question: No, EoN had one outstanding corp (TP) and an endless supply of ringers to fend off actual threats while DNS has several outstanding corps that can hold their own while also having an endless supply of ringers. If you thought EoN was unbeatable in their hayday then you're simply SoL if you are expected to fight DNS. In short, DNS is (currently) EoN to the 5th power. You ever fought RND and SyN before? I've got a different opinion...
Thunderdome is postponed until corp battles return please stop sending mails to me. QQ at CCP, not at me.
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1217
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:36:00 -
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Presidente Quez wrote:Wanting take everyone out that isn't with them? and just curious who is willing to fight against them for what they got cause if you're wallet isn't deeper than the next corp you could be next.
I don't think EoN Deliberately went after little guys... If i'm not mistaken, EoN Was against large Blue donuts and always went after other large blue donuts.... |
RendonaSix
SWAMPERIUM
16
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:45:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Killar-12 wrote:so Tso's is the new LoI/CRONOS/FEC then... So you still want to gargle on Kain's ******* after he effectively destroys one of the 5 game modes in Dust? Thor brother. What our alliance is doing..is exactly what GTA had planned. All the planning and prep to wipe out RA...the alts created by Marston trying to get people to rally against them...this game is about crushing your enemies..making isk...losing everything and then rebuilding. I fully respect ML...but you guys are sticking with STB which since your attachment to them..has cost you sooooo much. This isn't destroying the game..its playing it. Locking was destroying it.
You just described what life is about, applied it to dust and pointed out why the game is sht, thanks.
I am not Tech.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
3079
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:25:00 -
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I dont remember EON deciding to blue with everyone
Intelligence is OP
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Villanor Aquarius
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
159
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:28:00 -
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Every winning big alliance gets a mass of land and then usually crumbles after their conquests because there aren't fun things for their members to do and it becomes boring. Sometimes the members are just burnt out from getting to that point but in the end it's the same, they stagnate until the actives leave and either attack them to take their space or they simply don't have people logging in anymore and the next group looking to get big and mighty moves in.
It's a cycle and it will continue as long as the mechanics are this way and even after it's how these type of things go. Good relations within an alliance and frequent but not constant fights is what you need to really last. |
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