DUST Search - >Thales have absolutly no right of place in Pub matches.

fragmentedhackslash wrote:

Thales. The one and only thing you are guarenteed to lose within 60 seconds of your first kill posted using a Thales if you are in a match against me.

Guarenteed.

Why?

It's not the fact you are 250/500 meters in the redline. You will find me there some matches.
It's not that salvage is broken. My merc hasn't recieved anything in salvage since December... no bs, ever since I went on record stating salvage is broken, funny coincidence? See EDIT.
It's not that Scotty has stacked a team against you. It happens to everyone.
It's not the fact your generally in a pseudo Heavy suit.

It is because it is in my opinion Thales have no right of place in a Public match. It is as simple as that.

For everyone to understand the process of how I can accomplish this match in match out?

All blueberrys should have this fitting in stock at all times... it works wonders against Thales 'operators'.

Dropship (Full Militia Fit + Cheap and nasty)>

Viper
for ze speeds

Afterburner
for ze redline infiltration

Sheild Hardner
for ze instalations and redline rail tankers

Scanner
for ze radar blips

See a red Thales in the kill sheet.
Call in Viper.
Start to laugh.
Fly to redline.
Activate Scanner.
Activate Afterburner.

Find Thales.
Try to roadkill.
Keep laughing.
Jump out shoot the red as they are scrambling towards a supply depot.
Run up to red taking a dirt nap.
Teabag.
Laugh more.
Shoot in the head to terminate frame.
Try to get back in dropship, if it's not on fire.
Dropship times out and blows up.
Die in the redline satisfied.

Respawn with a smile.

Keep laughing.

EDIT//: First match since posting this, I recieve salvage. Thankyou.

I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans

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fragmentedhackslash FREE AGENTS LP 156	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:17:00 - [1] - Quote Thales. The one and only thing you are guarenteed to lose within 60 seconds of your first kill posted using a Thales if you are in a match against me. Guarenteed. Why? It's not the fact you are 250/500 meters in the redline. You will find me there some matches. It's not that salvage is broken. My merc hasn't recieved anything in salvage since December... no bs, ever since I went on record stating salvage is broken, funny coincidence? It's not that Scotty has stacked a team against you. It happens to everyone. It's not the fact your generally in a pseudo Heavy suit. It is because it is in my opinion Thales have no right of place in a Public match. It is as simple as that. For everyone to understand the process of how I can accomplish this match in match out? All blueberrys should have this fitting in stock at all times... it works wonders against Thales 'operators'. Dropship (Full Militia Fit + Cheap and nasty)> Viper for ze speeds Afterburner for ze redline infiltration Sheild Hardner for ze instalations and redline rail tankers Scanner for ze radar blips See a red Thales in the kill sheet. Call in Viper. Start to laugh. Fly to redline. Activate Scanner. Activate Afterburner. Find Thales. Try to roadkill. Keep laughing. Jump out shoot the red as they are scrambling towards a supply depot. Run up to red taking a dirt nap. Teabag. Laugh more. Shoot in the head to terminate frame. Try to get back in dropship, if it's not on fire. Dropship times out and blows up. Die in the redline satisfied. Respawn with a smile. Keep laughing. Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3661	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:31:00 - [2] - Quote Wow. I didn't know people hated Thales this much. I mean yeah, its a sniper, but if you let a sniper kill you more than once, you need to learn how to use cover better. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2011	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:32:00 - [3] - Quote I never really had a problem with Thales. The suit I wear in particular can't take excessive beating, so I don't stay out in the open. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara I'm waiting for my G-I suit. It's what I want.
George Moros Balkan Express Squad 319	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:34:00 - [4] - Quote fragmentedhackslash wrote: Find Thales. Try to roadkill. Keep laughing. Jump out shoot the red as they are pressing "start" on their DS3 and selecting the "leave battle" option. Die in the redline unsatisfied. Respawn. Thale's user keeps laughing. Fixed it for ya. Pulvereus ergo queritor.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13607	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:35:00 - [5] - Quote You know you have the power to fix that by killing him. I do this quite often. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 539	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:38:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: You know you have the power to fix that by killing him. I do this quite often. I will gladly sacrifice an ADS to go deep into the redline and pop a thale sniper... without hesitation. -Pro AFKing LVL 5 -Luck is just one of my skills -Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
alias lycan Federated Consultants PMC Lokun Listamenn 3	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:43:00 - [7] - Quote I drove a sica into the redline to kill a thale's user once. he was in a 1600 hp proto heavy suit had to shoot him twice with my railgun. the mail was worth it though.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 594	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:43:00 - [8] - Quote Sir Snugglz wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: You know you have the power to fix that by killing him. I do this quite often. I will gladly sacrifice an ADS to go deep into the redline and pop a thale sniper... without hesitation. Because of your high isk. Closed beta vet Logi, Heavy, Python, Scout. Dark souls 2 new game plus.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 255	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:49:00 - [9] - Quote The 1.8 version of this. Thales user deactivates cloak once DS is gone. We can pickle that.
fragmentedhackslash FREE AGENTS LP 156	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:55:00 - [10] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: The 1.8 version of this. Thales user deactivates cloak once DS is gone. Shhhh. Don't tell the community they havent realised this yet. I was hoping to be able to do this with my logi mk.0 Minmatar Precision Rifle (Explosive) with prone and bipod and 1 kilometer over the horizon range table, as per CCP video I saw 2 years ago. Still waiting. Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.

HYENAKILLER X WILL FIGHT ANYONE 672	Posted - 2014.03.22 08:04:00 - [11] - Quote Snipers...yawn. Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
fragmentedhackslash FREE AGENTS LP 156	Posted - 2014.03.22 08:06:00 - [12] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: You know you have the power to fix that by killing him. I do this quite often. I release to CCP full permissions given to data capture my character for unlimited time period. Specifically in regards to turning my salvage ratio's back on it is very evident it was manually turned off imo. It has been 4 months since I stated salvage was broken, and since that day I haven't recieved a single item from salvage. Please, fix this somehow. Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 874	Posted - 2014.03.22 08:09:00 - [13] - Quote Manus flats? **** yea i'm gonna rage and kill him. MCC sniper? See #1 Now a thales sniper sniping off OUR MCC...(enemy thales) I'll go up to snipe with him. 'Sorry Dakka, they're just so... Beautiful.' -cries- Tits are my new god, as the Galscout has enlightened me.
bully mong The Elite Forces Of Feros Academy 3	Posted - 2014.03.22 08:18:00 - [14] - Quote How do you even get the thales
fragmentedhackslash FREE AGENTS LP 158	Posted - 2014.03.22 08:41:00 - [15] - Quote Officer Salvage weapon. Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.
IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 259	Posted - 2014.03.22 08:57:00 - [16] - Quote Thales salvage is proportional to the amount I afk, best game ever.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11590	Posted - 2014.03.22 09:03:00 - [17] - Quote I have never actually lost a Thale's whilst seriously sniping with it. I'm pretty sure I have hundreds of kills with it as well. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Scheherazade VII 355	Posted - 2014.03.22 09:54:00 - [18] - Quote Yup, I had a tough game yesterday in ADV, went 19-12, was facing up against proto suits, one sentinel with 1100 armour went 17-15, another guy in proto goes negative with about 13 deaths. So what kills me most of the match? The guy with the Thale as I'm trying to play the objective. Redline snipers have no place in the game PERIOD, how CCP designed a game where you can get 2 people sniping the objective to ensure nobody EVER goes near it is beyond me!!! Snipers can literally pin you down and clone you out at an objective all because you're trying to play the objective. CCP if you want everyone to hug the outskirts of the map and farm the players who don't stick with the pack 60m away with a rail rifle (so they can avoid snipers) then you're going the right way about it! I've never seen a game which allows players to sit invisible, unrenderable and certainly invincible 100s of metres behind the redline, able to dictate what happens at the objective, without actually being involved in the game. nobody should have that much power without being down on the field where the battle is! The bridge map is still a complete and utter joke, sometimes I've seen 6 snipers on the enemy team, it's like nobody wants to play this game, they just sit on a rock somewhere because it's easier for them to get kills. Maybe they really do suck and they did run on the ground but got sick of the OP FOTM spamming. At least 1.8 is a step in the right direction what with increasing TTK but we need leaps not steps! This game has been out for a while now and is slowly being left behind because it's not what it should be, time is of the essence. 2 steps forward with weapon balance but 1 step backwards with some questionable decisions not limited to the weapons but "other" changes in 1.8.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1599	Posted - 2014.03.22 10:31:00 - [19] - Quote Somebody got butthurtGÇª several times apparently. Thale's GÇô still doing its job. "Stay stealthy scouts." GÇô Ron Burgundy
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 256	Posted - 2014.03.22 11:05:00 - [20] - Quote I had massive lulz yesterday. My squad was kicking ass but losing ground on the bridge domination map. I go to respawn and see 9 blue dots on top of dingleberry mountain. We decided to hell with victory. I spawned in with my forge gun and proceed to the closest sniper. I stand in front of him. He moves, I move. I punch him in the face...he drops me ammo??!!?? I continue punching his face until he runs away. I head to the next sniper. I punch him in the face...he drops ammo?!?!??! So I continue punching his face until he runs away. Go to the next one and spend the rest of the map trying to call a LAV onto him...he was wise to my plans and moved three feet to the right. So here's a protip: Snipers are filled with delicious candy, punch them to receive ammo! We can pickle that.

Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 432	Posted - 2014.03.22 11:14:00 - [21] - Quote Just a question ? When are we to use the thale ? Only in PC ! What about the 99% of the players that aren't in PC ? Trolololol War never changes
Jungian Ahrendee Mercenaries 362	Posted - 2014.03.22 11:34:00 - [22] - Quote Such lovely tears by the OP. Taste good. Broadcasting DUST 514 Live - 39 million Skill Points - 5 KDR RND_Jungian on Twitch
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1042	Posted - 2014.03.22 11:48:00 - [23] - Quote Yet another QQ Kitten about unfair OP gear in the Red Line except when he is doing it. And he admits to it. Let's establish the beginning of the discussion with the most important fact: There is no matchmaking in Dust514. Many Mercs will only play pub matches. FW is weird and if you don't want the LP gear then all it does is cost you gear, not pay ISK and is queue sync heaven for multi squad warfare. PC is worse and fewer play it, now that district locking is gone there will not be much ISK incentive to play PC. So where exactly do these QQ Kittens expect anyone that have Officer Gear salvage to use it? Anywhere that is not where they are would be the only answer I can come up with. Nut job suicide Mercs have always been part of Dust. We had Team Killers with grenades, LAVs (aka murder taxis), derp ships have always been used to scrape snipers off any high point and, of course, we have expanded recently with the Jihad Jeeps. Don't use a Thale in the open. And so it goes.
Exodeon Salviej The Third Day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 70	Posted - 2014.03.22 11:53:00 - [24] - Quote Hmm...Thales are annoying, but I never experience them enough to truly complain about them. Alas, complaining in general is just stupid unless you have some sort of useful information, or idea for it, whilst keeping yourself from looking like a complete redneck who yells at the neighbors kids to stay off of his lawn with rifle in hand. But, I do have to agree, Thales, and officer weapons aren't meant for pubs, or factional in absolute entirety. The salvage payout for those weapons is low enough to prove it so. But, the veterans have farmed officers for a long while now, and they have a nice, and large stock in their inventory of officer weapons, therefore, they get brought into pubs, and factionals. The Thale is a perfect example of this, as it is a sniper rifle! Snipers rarely get targeted, and seriously...who the hell uses a sniper rifle in a PC match? Not very many, I can tell you that. So, with that in mind, the Thale gets pulled into pubs, and factionals because it never gets used in PC. Overall result, this leads to it being the ultimate "gank weapon" for Dust 514. Considering this full reveiw of my own experience, and to the best of my knowledge, Thales should be removed entirely from the game. BUT, after 1.8, they will no longer be the ultimate "gank weapon." Wanna know why? Because damage mods are lowered from 3, 5, and 10%, to 3, 4, and 5%. Now, imagine...close your eyes and blissfully think of the outcome. I can see it, god is speaking to me! A weapon...powerful, yet unable to kill a heavy in a single shot, even with a headshot! Oh praise the lords! God has anwered our prayers. CONGRATU-*******-LATIONS EVERYONE, no more whining? I beleive so... Edit: I can be a huge pr!ck at times, please don't take offense to it. Or do...either way, I'm not wrong about this. Unless some guy comes along and says, "It'll get lower damage output, but still one shot a heavy. I did the math, here's the link: XXXXXXXXXX" Your face is something to shoot, so I will shoot. Don't be offended, I do it to everyone. Commandoooo punch! >:D
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3386	Posted - 2014.03.22 12:22:00 - [25] - Quote I have 42 Thales in my inventory. I used one once in a match. Maybe I should fit it again just to induce enemy rage. It seems like it may work as a tactic to draw the enemy off of objectives. Thales: bringing PSYOPS to DUST. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
Leonid Tybalt Heaven's-Gate 327	Posted - 2014.03.22 12:28:00 - [26] - Quote Care to elaborate why you think thales have no place in a public match? All I see from your post is: "because!" In my opinion, Thales are the only TRUE sniper rifles in this game, due to the fact that they kill most infantry targets in one shot (you know, the way a sniper rifle is SUPPOSED TO!).
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 242	Posted - 2014.03.22 12:32:00 - [27] - Quote +1. Nothing induces more rage for me than a *** sitting in the red line using a thales. Many people that exploit the red line laugh and joke about it saying like "oh the tears." Yet they fail to realize what they are actually doing to the game or how much of a *** they are for using their red line crutch. If you snipe from the red line, or rail tank from the red line, grow some balls, leave your safety zone, and actually join the fight. But then again the very reason these players exploit the red line is because they are dickless cowards and often they are terrible players so I guess red line abusers will continue until CCP does something about it. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Sgt Buttscratch R 0 N 1 N 2077	Posted - 2014.03.22 12:37:00 - [28] - Quote fragmentedhackslash wrote: Thales. The one and only thing you are guarenteed to lose within 60 seconds of your first kill posted using a Thales if you are in a match against me. Guarenteed. Why? It's not the fact you are 250/500 meters in the redline. You will find me there some matches. It's not that salvage is broken. My merc hasn't recieved anything in salvage since December... no bs, ever since I went on record stating salvage is broken, funny coincidence? See EDIT. It's not that Scotty has stacked a team against you. It happens to everyone. It's not the fact your generally in a pseudo Heavy suit. It is because it is in my opinion Thales have no right of place in a Public match. It is as simple as that. For everyone to understand the process of how I can accomplish this match in match out? All blueberrys should have this fitting in stock at all times... it works wonders against Thales 'operators'. Dropship (Full Militia Fit + Cheap and nasty)> Viper for ze speeds Afterburner for ze redline infiltration Sheild Hardner for ze instalations and redline rail tankers Scanner for ze radar blips See a red Thales in the kill sheet. Call in Viper. Start to laugh. Fly to redline. Activate Scanner. Activate Afterburner. Find Thales. Try to roadkill. Keep laughing. Jump out shoot the red as they are scrambling towards a supply depot. Run up to red taking a dirt nap. Teabag. Laugh more. Shoot in the head to terminate frame. Try to get back in dropship, if it's not on fire. Dropship times out and blows up. Die in the redline satisfied. Respawn with a smile. Keep laughing. EDIT//: First match since posting this, I recieve salvage. Thankyou. I remember sat there with my thale's once, sat there watching dropships scanning for me"scan attempt prevented"..... twas a fun day sniping. Finally one guy realised that I wasn't even in the redline. I track him as he tries to find me in the city. Wolfman's PCP scp ended his search before he actually saw me. Now for the "no right"..STFU. Where do the have a place? PC? That whole thing is a mess, don't play it. FW....lol. Anyone has every right to run whatever suit they want, with any weapon. Back in 1.6 I used to jump out of my friends tank with a balac's GAR to swiftly remove FG/AV naders and swarmers.. I will concede evertime I see a Thales I go hunting. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3387	Posted - 2014.03.22 12:45:00 - [29] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: +1. Nothing induces more rage for me than a *** sitting in the red line using a thales. Many people that exploit the red line laugh and joke about it saying like "oh the tears." Yet they fail to realize what they are actually doing to the game or how much of a *** they are for using their red line crutch. If you snipe from the red line, or rail tank from the red line, grow some balls, leave your safety zone, and actually join the fight. But then again the very reason these players exploit the red line is because they are dickless cowards and often they are terrible players so I guess red line abusers will continue until CCP does something about it. Any use of the word "crutch" gets an automatic hide-posts for the offender. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 242	Posted - 2014.03.22 12:56:00 - [30] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: +1. Nothing induces more rage for me than a *** sitting in the red line using a thales. Many people that exploit the red line laugh and joke about it saying like "oh the tears." Yet they fail to realize what they are actually doing to the game or how much of a *** they are for using their red line crutch. If you snipe from the red line, or rail tank from the red line, grow some balls, leave your safety zone, and actually join the fight. But then again the very reason these players exploit the red line is because they are dickless cowards and often they are terrible players so I guess red line abusers will continue until CCP does something about it. Any use of the word "crutch" gets an automatic hide-posts for the offender. What would you call it then? I often see the same people using the same red line exploits. It's obvious they can't play the game unless they do it from the safety of their red line. Would you like to coin a new phrase? Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.



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