In any case whether the buildup be .6 or .8 with the changes happening to proficiency you lose *greater than half* of your damage upon hitting armor instead of shields, I think that his has the potential to be incredibly unhealthy for laser profile weapons, especially when compared to weapons like the combat or rail rifle.

'* Laser Rifle:
- Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers.'

So, just took another look at the 1.8 SDE and 1.7 SDE.

Laser rifle heat costs are going to be the same across all tiers in 1.8 which means they will all overheat at the same cost, this is clearly not what it says in the patch notes. Currently in 1.7 the prototype laser rifle can fire a lot more than standard can which is how it should be.

Furthermore, the base damage will be 5% more for elm and 10% more for viziam compared to Standard laser. This however should only affect the base damage and not the beam, making it entirely useless.

IF the current changes hold then there will be no point using any other laser rifle than the standard. Ranges seem to be the same too.

Absolutely. This TTK thing is a good idea but as usual they took it too far. There is literally no point to going past proficiency 2, maybe 3, with any laser based weapon. Totally useless skill now.

Is it really surprising though? Ccp making mistakes.
We all remember the militia tank nitro.

Link

'* Laser Rifle:
- Increased effective range and increased damage at short range, reduced heat cost at ADV and PRO tiers.'

So, just took another look at the 1.8 SDE and 1.7 SDE.

Laser rifle heat costs are going to be the same across all tiers in 1.8 which means they will all overheat at the same cost, this is clearly not what it says in the patch notes. Currently in 1.7 the prototype laser rifle can fire a lot more than standard can which is how it should be.

Furthermore, the base damage will be 5% more for elm and 10% more for viziam compared to Standard laser. This however should only affect the base damage and not the beam, making it entirely useless.

IF the current changes hold then there will be no point using any other laser rifle than the standard. Ranges seem to be the same too.

To be honest I also feel that damage mods should be at 3/5/7% so as to make tier differences and sp investment notable.

Link it already...

I guess you forgot to say please jerremy12.... 3 times in fact, no manners eh?

Sorry....you dont so please in a mmo rpg...

This is a great shame as I could have linked you what you're after, but never mind then.

http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/364027

It's not the medium suit though, just a lonely scout that got messed up. I'm not expecting it to actually be like that when 1.8 arrives though :P

Thanjs, 3x is kevel 3 right not multiplyer?

I've just started using Lasers and they are really hard to use, it's impossible almost to stay on target while you are 'burning' someone as they will always strafe and 100% of the time will bunny hop (which is ******* pathetic and one of the worst mechanics in this game IMO).

I think it would be better if there were some kind of meter on the HUD (over the reticule maybe, not way off in the bottom right hand corner) to tell you if/when it was overheating, or if the laser would change colour as it heats up, or maybe the noise could change? but I suppose you could also count to 5/6..

The changes are interesting, increased zoom and less heat build up, but we'll have to wait and see.

Just a small heads up, CPM confirmed that CCP is aware of the issue. Hopefully it will be sorted before Tuesday.

What issue?

Hey Musta, you should not post things like this. It might stress out the poor soul working with maintenance of the Uprising expansion. He has too much to fix already :/