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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:35:00 -
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Delta90212 wrote:Have you ever tried flying one before? It's one of the most skill-requiring task to do in this game.
If i spend most of my SP/time into assault dropships it better be rewarding. yes. its damn fuckin easy. how people can die in them...
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
260
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:44:00 -
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1/2 the forum brags about shooting down dropships, the other 1/2 cries that they're OP. sounds pretty balanced.
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
forum warrior .189
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Nothing Certain
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
328
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:47:00 -
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Sorry, but a post about calling in a tank to two-shot an ADS because they are being spammed exploded my irony meter and I will be unable to properly interpret posts until it gets fixed.
Because, that's why.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:35:00 -
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ADS+HAV=win
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
3094
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:42:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:ADS+HAV=win
MLT HAV + MLT HAV + Redline + whatever = Win
You gotta love those full auto railguns. |
Temias Mercurial
ANGEL FLEET
15
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:43:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Ever since we got our 2-3 mil MCC SP every match I have been in has been littered with ADS spam,. Whom ever side calls in the most wins. Most players refuse to run AV and just ignore them letting them dominate every objective and roof top in the game.
So even tho I usualy run logi, every time I see a ADS im stoping everything im doing, calling in a Malita Rail tank and two shotting you out of the sky. Im averaging about 5 a match, tho it makes me sad that i only rarely get the pilot kill because lol CCP lets them have a free ride eject.
I dont care if tanks are OP they cant fly, I dont care if DS think this a **** tactic, sure FGs work but the DS usualy escape with their unlimited after burner boosts, better just give them a good slap across the face and make them reconsider how they spent their SP.
PS: to amy one who says "you mad bro" or "where did the ADS touch you" Im not doing this because Im mad, Im doing this because no one else seams to be fighting back aginst them.
You say ADS are OP, then you two shot them out of the air... and still complain? Do you have any idea that ADS require sufficiently more skill than your average player? What forge gun are you using? As both a pilot and forger I really don't find this as an issue... the reason no one is "fighting back" is because... they're not that difficult to kill. |
Temias Mercurial
ANGEL FLEET
15
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:48:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:Go ahead and sit in the redline a pretend you're good. All you have proven is that ADS's need a buff and your **** fit MLT tanks need a nerf. Im sorry, did I ever say I was in the redline? I acutualy hang out close to the enemy redline because they all seam to swing back that way for ammo and to hide a mile in the sky. Going to have to troll harder than that friend.
Hide a mile in the sky? Have you tried using hills to prop yourself up? There essentially is no "hiding" with a dropship, just the constant fear of being shot down by 70k worth of tank. All you can really do is preform a few maneuvers and hope they work... |
boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
390
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:53:00 -
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so what people are using there sp towards something that isnt op. have you tried to fly anything above miltia. cause **** it is not easy. thosse pilots fork out half a mill isk for a basic ads and then get two shotted by a miltia railgun. me thinks the railgun is op. and this comes from a part time tanker most of the time heavy.
props to thosse pilots that can fly ads and make them work its a damm hard and not very profitable thing to do.
also 5 ads in one match i dont think so. you mean you killed one and several normal drop ships. and as ancdoatel evidence of this fact as you seem so keen on using. we were running a few tanks earlyier today and we killed the same dropship pilot in his ads twice before he could do any damage.
the ads is not op pilot skill is. get over it the guy beat you in the most spectaular fashion.
(yeah yeah spelling sorry)
i want proxie chat so i can run around in the gall heavy saying GET IN MAH BELLY. nah just kidding trade window please=)
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1140
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:58:00 -
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I'm with Beck on this one. Kill me in your ADS or in your blaster tank, and I'm calling in a rail tank or prepping a Jihad Jeep on my next respawn. I will continue to retaliate thusly unless a) the cloak actually helps prevent deaths by vehicles or b) CCP gives us an infantry only game mode. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
405
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Posted - 2014.03.21 04:08:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:ADS's aren't really imbalanced. the fact that you can 2 shot them is proof of that. That said, I think vehicles should be much more expensive. I miss the days of tankers having to lose upwards of 500k on a bottom-line tank. Then they have to be a lot more conservative, and not just derp around, rolling right up to the enemy spawn point, or into the redline. as it stands, vehicles, tanks in particular, are FAR too cheap, especially considering the vast amount of people in PC who make hundreds of millions every few weeks. even million dollar tanks wouldn't phase them any.
but it would slow the problem down. at least until AV gets balanced. I don't believe that tanks are cheap . Skill point investment coupled with skill book isk prices make Hav's some of the most expensive roles in the game . Now talking about Militia Tanks , now they could use a price increase and a reduction to the efficacy of their mods but about price .. Skilled HAV usage is expensive .
We haven't even experienced ADV or PRO HAV's much less vehicles in general ( unless you want to call ADS's ADV Dropships ) so to talk about prices except in the case of Militia is kind of premature .
Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
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Temias Mercurial
ANGEL FLEET
16
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Posted - 2014.03.21 04:18:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Orin the Freak wrote:ADS's aren't really imbalanced. the fact that you can 2 shot them is proof of that. That said, I think vehicles should be much more expensive. I miss the days of tankers having to lose upwards of 500k on a bottom-line tank. Then they have to be a lot more conservative, and not just derp around, rolling right up to the enemy spawn point, or into the redline. as it stands, vehicles, tanks in particular, are FAR too cheap, especially considering the vast amount of people in PC who make hundreds of millions every few weeks. even million dollar tanks wouldn't phase them any.
but it would slow the problem down. at least until AV gets balanced. I don't believe that tanks are cheap . Skill point investment coupled with skill book isk prices make Hav's some of the most expensive roles in the game . Now talking about Militia Tanks , now they could use a price increase and a reduction to the efficacy of their mods but about price .. Skilled HAV usage is expensive . We haven't even experienced ADV or PRO HAV's much less vehicles in general ( unless you want to call ADS's ADV Dropships ) so to talk about prices except in the case of Militia is kind of premature .
I wouldn't consider the ADS the ADV varient of the dropship, as it's simply a varient of it. Basic frames unlock assault and logistic suits, and they have STD to PRO tiers. With the way the ADS is right now, I'd prefer the price of the hull to be reduced, with the introduction of ADV and PRO vehicles, and have PRO cost a little over the current 450,000 isk. Also, militia tank hulls can keep their price, but the effectiveness of militia turrets and modules need serious reconsideration, along with the PG and CPU of militia tanks. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2778
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Posted - 2014.03.21 04:19:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:ADS+HAV=win MLT HAV + MLT HAV + Redline + whatever = Win You gotta love those full auto railguns. I'm incline to agree, but man did I have a lot of ADS+HAV matches today.
Soooooo many ships I could have killed were it not for Sicas/Somas/Maddys/Gunnys killing before my FG would charge.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
879
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:13:00 -
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Temias Mercurial wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Ever since we got our 2-3 mil MCC SP every match I have been in has been littered with ADS spam,. Whom ever side calls in the most wins. Most players refuse to run AV and just ignore them letting them dominate every objective and roof top in the game.
So even tho I usualy run logi, every time I see a ADS im stoping everything im doing, calling in a Malita Rail tank and two shotting you out of the sky. Im averaging about 5 a match, tho it makes me sad that i only rarely get the pilot kill because lol CCP lets them have a free ride eject.
I dont care if tanks are OP they cant fly, I dont care if DS think this a **** tactic, sure FGs work but the DS usualy escape with their unlimited after burner boosts, better just give them a good slap across the face and make them reconsider how they spent their SP.
PS: to amy one who says "you mad bro" or "where did the ADS touch you" Im not doing this because Im mad, Im doing this because no one else seams to be fighting back aginst them. You say ADS are OP, then you two shot them out of the air... and still complain? Do you have any idea that ADS require sufficiently more skill than your average player? What forge gun are you using? As both a pilot and forger I really don't find this as an issue... the reason no one is "fighting back" is because... they're not that difficult to kill.
Didnt say they where OP, the words OP never entered the topic, I said spam, like proto spam or blaster tank spam, But ADS spam is the most anoying because only 3 weapons in the game work ok aginst them, forges, railturrets, and swarms, and swarms are kinda buggered right now.
Also I have flown an ADS, its easyer than hell to kill people with them, sure it takes sill to not get shot down by forge and rails, but it dosent take skill to fly. If more people ran fogre I wouldnt have to bring in the rail.
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
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deezy dabest
CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY
244
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:28:00 -
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I learned a hard lesson about the ADS when I thought the MCC challenge finally had my lalt ready to be skilled into them.
All 6 million unallocated SP the character has spent on them and it has just now reached a point where I do not sweat a forge gunner in the area (though some skilled ones still manage to drop it) throw the amazing cost of a full fitted one on top of the 10 million SP it will end up having required and they are infinitely more balanced than tanks. |
Temias Mercurial
ANGEL FLEET
16
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:43:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Ever since we got our 2-3 mil MCC SP every match I have been in has been littered with ADS spam,. Whom ever side calls in the most wins. Most players refuse to run AV and just ignore them letting them dominate every objective and roof top in the game.
So even tho I usualy run logi, every time I see a ADS im stoping everything im doing, calling in a Malita Rail tank and two shotting you out of the sky. Im averaging about 5 a match, tho it makes me sad that i only rarely get the pilot kill because lol CCP lets them have a free ride eject.
I dont care if tanks are OP they cant fly, I dont care if DS think this a **** tactic, sure FGs work but the DS usualy escape with their unlimited after burner boosts, better just give them a good slap across the face and make them reconsider how they spent their SP.
PS: to amy one who says "you mad bro" or "where did the ADS touch you" Im not doing this because Im mad, Im doing this because no one else seams to be fighting back aginst them. You say ADS are OP, then you two shot them out of the air... and still complain? Do you have any idea that ADS require sufficiently more skill than your average player? What forge gun are you using? As both a pilot and forger I really don't find this as an issue... the reason no one is "fighting back" is because... they're not that difficult to kill. Didnt say they where OP, the words OP never entered the topic, I said spam, like proto spam or blaster tank spam, But ADS spam is the most anoying because only 3 weapons in the game work ok aginst them, forges, railturrets, and swarms, and swarms are kinda buggered right now. Also I have flown an ADS, its easyer than hell to kill people with them, sure it takes sill to not get shot down by forge and rails, but it dosent take skill to fly. If more people ran fogre I wouldnt have to bring in the rail.
What if I told you that a single ADV forge gun with a complex damage mod is quite sufficient against ADS... also, when you associate tanks and ADS in the same sentence, using the same terms, it sounds like you're saying they're OP, especially when you refereed to tanks as OP. Spam this, spam that, really sounds like you're saying: "They're no different from tanks; therefore, they're OP." Just because you may be good with flying an ADS, doesn't mean that it's easy as hell for other players. I've used them for quite a while. It feels like second nature to me. |
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