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Temias Mercurial
ANGEL FLEET
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:43:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Ever since we got our 2-3 mil MCC SP every match I have been in has been littered with ADS spam,. Whom ever side calls in the most wins. Most players refuse to run AV and just ignore them letting them dominate every objective and roof top in the game.
So even tho I usualy run logi, every time I see a ADS im stoping everything im doing, calling in a Malita Rail tank and two shotting you out of the sky. Im averaging about 5 a match, tho it makes me sad that i only rarely get the pilot kill because lol CCP lets them have a free ride eject.
I dont care if tanks are OP they cant fly, I dont care if DS think this a **** tactic, sure FGs work but the DS usualy escape with their unlimited after burner boosts, better just give them a good slap across the face and make them reconsider how they spent their SP.
PS: to amy one who says "you mad bro" or "where did the ADS touch you" Im not doing this because Im mad, Im doing this because no one else seams to be fighting back aginst them.
You say ADS are OP, then you two shot them out of the air... and still complain?  Do you have any idea that ADS require sufficiently more skill than your average player? What forge gun are you using? As both a pilot and forger I really don't find this as an issue... the reason no one is "fighting back" is because... they're not that difficult to kill. |
Temias Mercurial
ANGEL FLEET
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:48:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:Go ahead and sit in the redline a pretend you're good. All you have proven is that ADS's need a buff and your **** fit MLT tanks need a nerf. Im sorry, did I ever say I was in the redline? I acutualy hang out close to the enemy redline because they all seam to swing back that way for ammo and to hide a mile in the sky. Going to have to troll harder than that friend.
Hide a mile in the sky? Have you tried using hills to prop yourself up? There essentially is no "hiding" with a dropship, just the constant fear of being shot down by 70k worth of tank. All you can really do is preform a few maneuvers and hope they work... |
Temias Mercurial
ANGEL FLEET
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Posted - 2014.03.21 04:18:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Orin the Freak wrote:ADS's aren't really imbalanced. the fact that you can 2 shot them is proof of that. That said, I think vehicles should be much more expensive. I miss the days of tankers having to lose upwards of 500k on a bottom-line tank. Then they have to be a lot more conservative, and not just derp around, rolling right up to the enemy spawn point, or into the redline. as it stands, vehicles, tanks in particular, are FAR too cheap, especially considering the vast amount of people in PC who make hundreds of millions every few weeks. even million dollar tanks wouldn't phase them any.
but it would slow the problem down. at least until AV gets balanced. I don't believe that tanks are cheap . Skill point investment coupled with skill book isk prices make Hav's some of the most expensive roles in the game . Now talking about Militia Tanks , now they could use a price increase and a reduction to the efficacy of their mods but about price .. Skilled HAV usage is expensive . We haven't even experienced ADV or PRO HAV's much less vehicles in general ( unless you want to call ADS's ADV Dropships ) so to talk about prices except in the case of Militia is kind of premature .
I wouldn't consider the ADS the ADV varient of the dropship, as it's simply a varient of it. Basic frames unlock assault and logistic suits, and they have STD to PRO tiers. With the way the ADS is right now, I'd prefer the price of the hull to be reduced, with the introduction of ADV and PRO vehicles, and have PRO cost a little over the current 450,000 isk. Also, militia tank hulls can keep their price, but the effectiveness of militia turrets and modules need serious reconsideration, along with the PG and CPU of militia tanks. |
Temias Mercurial
ANGEL FLEET
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:43:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Temias Mercurial wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Ever since we got our 2-3 mil MCC SP every match I have been in has been littered with ADS spam,. Whom ever side calls in the most wins. Most players refuse to run AV and just ignore them letting them dominate every objective and roof top in the game.
So even tho I usualy run logi, every time I see a ADS im stoping everything im doing, calling in a Malita Rail tank and two shotting you out of the sky. Im averaging about 5 a match, tho it makes me sad that i only rarely get the pilot kill because lol CCP lets them have a free ride eject.
I dont care if tanks are OP they cant fly, I dont care if DS think this a **** tactic, sure FGs work but the DS usualy escape with their unlimited after burner boosts, better just give them a good slap across the face and make them reconsider how they spent their SP.
PS: to amy one who says "you mad bro" or "where did the ADS touch you" Im not doing this because Im mad, Im doing this because no one else seams to be fighting back aginst them. You say ADS are OP, then you two shot them out of the air... and still complain? Do you have any idea that ADS require sufficiently more skill than your average player? What forge gun are you using? As both a pilot and forger I really don't find this as an issue... the reason no one is "fighting back" is because... they're not that difficult to kill. Didnt say they where OP, the words OP never entered the topic, I said spam, like proto spam or blaster tank spam, But ADS spam is the most anoying because only 3 weapons in the game work ok aginst them, forges, railturrets, and swarms, and swarms are kinda buggered right now. Also I have flown an ADS, its easyer than hell to kill people with them, sure it takes sill to not get shot down by forge and rails, but it dosent take skill to fly. If more people ran fogre I wouldnt have to bring in the rail.
What if I told you that a single ADV forge gun with a complex damage mod is quite sufficient against ADS... also, when you associate tanks and ADS in the same sentence, using the same terms, it sounds like you're saying they're OP, especially when you refereed to tanks as OP. Spam this, spam that, really sounds like you're saying: "They're no different from tanks; therefore, they're OP."  Just because you may be good with flying an ADS, doesn't mean that it's easy as hell for other players. I've used them for quite a while. It feels like second nature to me. |
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