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Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 853	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:30:00 - [1] - Quote Ever since we got our 2-3 mil MCC SP every match I have been in has been littered with ADS spam,. Whom ever side calls in the most wins. Most players refuse to run AV and just ignore them letting them dominate every objective and roof top in the game. So even tho I usualy run logi, every time I see a ADS im stoping everything im doing, calling in a Malita Rail tank and two shotting you out of the sky. Im averaging about 5 a match, tho it makes me sad that i only rarely get the pilot kill because lol CCP lets them have a free ride eject. I dont care if tanks are OP they cant fly, I dont care if DS think this a **** tactic, sure FGs work but the DS usualy escape with their unlimited after burner boosts, better just give them a good slap across the face and make them reconsider how they spent their SP. PS: to amy one who says "you mad bro" or "where did the ADS touch you" Im not doing this because Im mad, Im doing this because no one else seams to be fighting back aginst them. These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1416	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:42:00 - [2] - Quote Took down a bunch today myself, inexperienced pilot+proto swarm, dropship down. CEO Whiskey squad leader Official Dust 514 movie style popcorn manufacturer and distributor.
Patrlck 56 57	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:43:00 - [3] - Quote Are you saying ADSs are OP, with the ridiculous prices and, as you said yourself, being two shotted out of the sky? Also, I am an ADS pilot. :D
Orin the Freak The Solecism of Limitation 730	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:44:00 - [4] - Quote ADS's aren't really imbalanced. the fact that you can 2 shot them is proof of that. That said, I think vehicles should be much more expensive. I miss the days of tankers having to lose upwards of 500k on a bottom-line tank. Then they have to be a lot more conservative, and not just derp around, rolling right up to the enemy spawn point, or into the redline. as it stands, vehicles, tanks in particular, are FAR too cheap, especially considering the vast amount of people in PC who make hundreds of millions every few weeks. even million dollar tanks wouldn't phase them any. but it would slow the problem down. at least until AV gets balanced.
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 355	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:47:00 - [5] - Quote Have you ever tried flying one before? It's one of the most skill-requiring task to do in this game. If i spend most of my SP/time into assault dropships it better be rewarding. Fear The Tribes // In Rust We Trust // Standings Minmatar 6 // Minmatar Logibro //
echo47 Minmatar Republic 240	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:48:00 - [6] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: Ever since we got our 2-3 mil MCC SP every match I have been in has been littered with ADS spam,. Whom ever side calls in the most wins. Most players refuse to run AV and just ignore them letting them dominate every objective and roof top in the game. So even tho I usualy run logi, every time I see a ADS im stoping everything im doing, calling in a Malita Rail tank and two shotting you out of the sky. Im averaging about 5 a match, tho it makes me sad that i only rarely get the pilot kill because lol CCP lets them have a free ride eject. I dont care if tanks are OP they cant fly, I dont care if DS think this a **** tactic, sure FGs work but the DS usualy escape with their unlimited after burner boosts, better just give them a good slap across the face and make them reconsider how they spent their SP. PS: to amy one who says "you mad bro" or "where did the ADS touch you" Im not doing this because Im mad, Im doing this because no one else seams to be fighting back aginst them. Right on. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
Dingleburt Bangledack PiZzA DuDeS 45	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:52:00 - [7] - Quote I one-shot ADS's on a regular basis with my Breach Forge and my SMG takes care of enemy infantry just fine. I fail to see any sort of problem when I know for a fact I'm not the only person capable of this.
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 859	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:53:00 - [8] - Quote Patrlck 56 wrote: Are you saying ADSs are OP, with the ridiculous prices and, as you said yourself, being two shotted out of the sky? Also, I am an ADS pilot. :D Not saying they are OP, Im saying they are suddenly being spamed and if no one else will kill them I will, I also Kill tons of tanks usualy with my logi using REs, So Im aginst all vehical spam not just ADS. Dingleburt Bangledack wrote: I one-shot ADS's on a regular basis with my Breach Forge and my SMG takes care of enemy infantry just fine. I fail to see any sort of problem when I know for a fact I'm not the only person capable of this. I seriously havent sean a FG in weeks, im staring to wonder where they went. These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8512	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:55:00 - [9] - Quote Patrlck 56 wrote: Are you saying ADSs are OP, with the ridiculous prices and, as you said yourself, being two shotted out of the sky? Also, I am an ADS pilot. :D A good pilot in an ADS is always OP. Some of the things they do...... Yeah I see this too, but that simply means more targets for my railgun or missiles, and less enemies on the points to capture them. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 2052	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:56:00 - [10] - Quote Delta90212 wrote: If i spend most of my SP/time into assault dropships it better be rewarding. You played it before 1.7, right? I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]

Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1074	Posted - 2014.03.20 22:04:00 - [11] - Quote Just wait until they fix the redline. We'll be unstoppable :D Me in my ADS: 1,2
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2063	Posted - 2014.03.20 22:04:00 - [12] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: Ever since we got our 2-3 mil MCC SP every match I have been in has been littered with ADS spam,. Whom ever side calls in the most wins. Most players refuse to run AV and just ignore them letting them dominate every objective and roof top in the game. So even tho I usualy run logi, every time I see a ADS im stoping everything im doing, calling in a Malita Rail tank and two shotting you out of the sky. Im averaging about 5 a match, tho it makes me sad that i only rarely get the pilot kill because lol CCP lets them have a free ride eject. I dont care if tanks are OP they cant fly, I dont care if DS think this a **** tactic, sure FGs work but the DS usualy escape with their unlimited after burner boosts, better just give them a good slap across the face and make them reconsider how they spent their SP. PS: to amy one who says "you mad bro" or "where did the ADS touch you" Im not doing this because Im mad, Im doing this because no one else seams to be fighting back aginst them. I know this isn't EVE. I am not stating that AV/vehicles are balanced. I understand there is a problem with AV. I understand that you think CCP doesn't listen or know how to balance things. I understand that you may believe that another patch may not come for a year. I know that the game has problems. I am not trying to say anything about balance, timely releases, quality of released content, competence of CCP or players or anything other than the following: I have been saying what you posted for almost a month now. That is why I have started adding the above disclaimer to every post I make. You are correct AV doesn't try and if they do it is one person trying to fight multiple vehicles and OP RR/CR. My problems usually come from 3/4 of the team not being in a squad and if they are they aren't using coms or even putting squad orders out. If I run with a squad whom is communicating and working towards the same goal I have almost ZERO vehicle problems. Yes, vehicles are difficult and not perfectly balanced with AV but they aren't indestructible and sometimes running a vehicle off is the best we are going to be able to accomplish. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11536	Posted - 2014.03.20 22:09:00 - [13] - Quote I think it'd be interesting to see the state of them without instakill threats from railgun tanks. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 131	Posted - 2014.03.20 22:10:00 - [14] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: Ever since we got our 2-3 mil MCC SP every match I have been in has been littered with ADS spam,. Whom ever side calls in the most wins. Most players refuse to run AV and just ignore them letting them dominate every objective and roof top in the game. So even tho I usualy run logi, every time I see a ADS im stoping everything im doing, calling in a Malita Rail tank and two shotting you out of the sky. Im averaging about 5 a match, tho it makes me sad that i only rarely get the pilot kill because lol CCP lets them have a free ride eject. I dont care if tanks are OP they cant fly, I dont care if DS think this a **** tactic, sure FGs work but the DS usualy escape with their unlimited after burner boosts, better just give them a good slap across the face and make them reconsider how they spent their SP. PS: to amy one who says "you mad bro" or "where did the ADS touch you" Im not doing this because Im mad, Im doing this because no one else seams to be fighting back aginst them. Salutations, Beck. (Like your character name, btw). I'm sorry to read about your troubles with pesky dropships. I sometimes feel I'm one of the only support-players who are willing to kneel behind a weapon-installation for THE WHOLE MATCH, and sterilize the airspace for the team (of course, I know I'm not the only one, there are others out there who do this too...we're just not numerous enough). But I've been away from the game for several days... OMG, maybe that's why the mosquitos are back! Some players just don't realize how tactically effective a strong air suppression from an installation is. Do it IMMEDIATELY as the match starts, (before the HAVs can get around to destroying all the installations) and you'll COMPLETELY prevent the air-pollution. If your ADS problems gradually vanish before Saturday.... you'll know part of the reason why. Keep a good thought in your mind for us ground-gunners!
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3573	Posted - 2014.03.20 22:11:00 - [15] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: tho it makes me sad that i only rarely get the pilot kill because lol CCP lets them have a free ride eject. For the millionth time when you are an object in the sky that any railgun can shoot out from a redline you deserve the right to bail out of the sky coffin. Half the fun is in hunting the survivors anyways, like Black Hawk Down. 68 inches above sea level...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8516	Posted - 2014.03.20 22:11:00 - [16] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I think it'd be interesting to see the state of them without instakill threats from railgun tanks. Hell...you'd see now HAV on the map. A good ADS pilot is like a hard counter to tanks. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11536	Posted - 2014.03.20 22:13:00 - [17] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I think it'd be interesting to see the state of them without instakill threats from railgun tanks. Hell...you'd see now HAV on the map. A good ADS pilot is like a hard counter to tanks. They are excellent at what they do, to be sure. However, I'm inclined to call that a hasty judgement. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 859	Posted - 2014.03.20 22:16:00 - [18] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Beck Weathers wrote: tho it makes me sad that i only rarely get the pilot kill because lol CCP lets them have a free ride eject. For the millionth time when you are an object in the sky that any railgun can shoot out from a redline you deserve the right to bail out of the sky coffin. Half the fun is in hunting the survivors anyways, like Black Hawk Down. lol because fat suit heavys with forge guns are going to waddle 300m over to where you landed and strangle you. most make a bee line back to their red line and call in another ADS.. tho that is my fav part because if im lucky enough for them to have a very visable redline, ill wait till they call it in, get inside then insta pop it before it takes off. These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8517	Posted - 2014.03.20 22:21:00 - [19] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I think it'd be interesting to see the state of them without instakill threats from railgun tanks. Hell...you'd see now HAV on the map. A good ADS pilot is like a hard counter to tanks. They are excellent at what they do, to be sure. However, I'm inclined to call that a hasty judgement. Why so? I certainly recently am subject to an ungodly amount of ADS attention...though I could see good missile tankers giving them a scare. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 184	Posted - 2014.03.20 22:22:00 - [20] - Quote My forge gun was getting cold. It will a fun weekend :) This game need more vehicles!

Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 202	Posted - 2014.03.20 22:28:00 - [21] - Quote the Dau is fun for derpships too, got 3 and an asst yesterday in one match... same guy all times too hahaha Welcome to you're "DOOM"
Dingleburt Bangledack PiZzA DuDeS 45	Posted - 2014.03.20 22:28:00 - [22] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: I seriously havent sean a FG in weeks, im staring to wonder where they went. Really? Consider yourself lucky then. The only thing I fear more than redline snipers (Tank or infantry) is a tower camped Forge Gunner, which I see every other match, at least. When you're in a scout suit, anything with more splash damage than you have total EHP is FAR more irritating than an ADS ( Yes, missile turrets but... once again, I have a Proto Breach Forge waiting ). Though, I won't lie. During my time as a heavy, I've tower FG sniped. So, I now know what it's like from both sides.
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 861	Posted - 2014.03.20 23:39:00 - [23] - Quote Dingleburt Bangledack wrote: Beck Weathers wrote: I seriously havent sean a FG in weeks, im staring to wonder where they went. Really? Consider yourself lucky then. The only thing I fear more than redline snipers (Tank or infantry) is a tower camped Forge Gunner, which I see every other match, at least. When you're in a scout suit, anything with more splash damage than you have total EHP is FAR more irritating than an ADS ( Yes, missile turrets but... once again, I have a Proto Breach Forge waiting ). Though, I won't lie. During my time as a heavy, I've tower FG sniped. So, I now know what it's like from both sides. No tower sniping Forges if 4 ADS own all their drop ships before they even get to the towers... Its especialy stupid when they hit their hardeners and just ram the other dropships out of the sky. These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1516	Posted - 2014.03.20 23:43:00 - [24] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: Took down a bunch today myself, inexperienced pilot+proto swarm, dropship down. Its cute when a DS shows its face. I send a message. Was 50pts worth losing your ADS? the replies are often colorful. Who wants some?
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3601	Posted - 2014.03.20 23:46:00 - [25] - Quote The majority of vehicles as a whole in pub matches aren't really dealt with. Though I have been seeing a small increase in swarm launchers being used. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 775	Posted - 2014.03.21 00:06:00 - [26] - Quote Go ahead and sit in the redline a pretend you're good. All you have proven is that ADS's need a buff and your **** fit MLT tanks need a nerf. CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 862	Posted - 2014.03.21 00:14:00 - [27] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Go ahead and sit in the redline a pretend you're good. All you have proven is that ADS's need a buff and your **** fit MLT tanks need a nerf. Im sorry, did I ever say I was in the redline? I acutualy hang out close to the enemy redline because they all seam to swing back that way for ammo and to hide a mile in the sky. Going to have to troll harder than that friend. These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 276	Posted - 2014.03.21 01:15:00 - [28] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Just wait until they fix the redline. We'll be unstoppable :D This is precisely why the redline shouldn't be removed. And proves that ads pilots are only good when nothing is shooting at them, the minute they take some damage it's off to add some more tears to the bucket. Good.
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1076	Posted - 2014.03.21 01:31:00 - [29] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Just wait until they fix the redline. We'll be unstoppable :D This is precisely why the redline shouldn't be removed. And proves that ads pilots are only good when nothing is shooting at them, the minute they take some damage it's off to add some more tears to the bucket. Good. That post was made in jest. Any half-minded forge gunner worth a darn and has some tactical sense can easily fend off a dropship, especially with the new Cal sentinels having a near 50% reduction to explosive damage and high regen rate. Heck, two militia forgers and we're practically worthless. Not to mention you can always just keep two rail tanks Gëê100m apart and cover each other if they're being harassed. Seriously, you have no imagination nor concept of the true balance that dropships and their predators are in. And resorting to "I need total immunity to have a shot at killing one of the most targetable and difficult vehicles in the game with the most OP vehicle" resounds how much of a scrub you must be. Me in my ADS: 1,2
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1814	Posted - 2014.03.21 01:38:00 - [30] - Quote I was against 3 ads and 4 tanks today. Went sniping.



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