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The dark cloud wrote:

Well done i cant even break a armor tank anymore with a proto forge+2 damage mods on it. So tell me why should i keep playing this game? Its literally unplayable at the moment with the current tanks.

-tanks cheaper then dropsuits
-AV is garbage even on proto lvl
-damage mod nerf= AV nerf
-AV grenade count reduced to 2

On ambush you cant play as infantry cause every twatt is spamming vehicles. Skirmish is half playable but as soon my team caps all objectives every 1 on the opposite is getting a sniper rifle or railgun tank. This game would be half enjoyable if vehicles would be banned from ambush all together. There is no excuse or purpose for vehicles there they just do stat padding by spawnkilling. Even if you manage to barricade yourself into a building you cant get out. Cause all exits are camped by tanks.

1.8 will be a huge disaster due to the dropsuit refund. Cause allmost nobody with half a brain will get back into dropsuits. Instead they will dump every single skillpoint into vehicles. The last event is a prime example. I see now twice as much vehicles as before and the numbers are growing with each day. I even go so far that AV should be buffed by 50% just to be half capable to deal with the overwhelming numbers of tanks and derpships that are crawling around.

Oh and one more thing CCP. GG stands for "get good" not "good game".

I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

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The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2515	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:26:00 - [1] - Quote Well done i cant even break a armor tank anymore with a proto forge+2 damage mods on it. So tell me why should i keep playing this game? Its literally unplayable at the moment with the current tanks. -tanks cheaper then dropsuits -AV is garbage even on proto lvl -damage mod nerf= AV nerf -AV grenade count reduced to 2 On ambush you cant play as infantry cause every twatt is spamming vehicles. Skirmish is half playable but as soon my team caps all objectives every 1 on the opposite is getting a sniper rifle or railgun tank. This game would be half enjoyable if vehicles would be banned from ambush all together. There is no excuse or purpose for vehicles there they just do stat padding by spawnkilling. Even if you manage to barricade yourself into a building you cant get out. Cause all exits are camped by tanks. 1.8 will be a huge disaster due to the dropsuit refund. Cause allmost nobody with half a brain will get back into dropsuits. Instead they will dump every single skillpoint into vehicles. The last event is a prime example. I see now twice as much vehicles as before and the numbers are growing with each day. I even go so far that AV should be buffed by 50% just to be half capable to deal with the overwhelming numbers of tanks and derpships that are crawling around. Oh and one more thing CCP. GG stands for "get good" not "good game". I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3577	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:39:00 - [2] - Quote It really is shameful that 1.8 is arriving with no vehicle changes. No.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3049	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:39:00 - [3] - Quote 700k is not cheaper than 150k Actually my standard 200k is more expenisve than most AV fits, my proto FG is 150k FG is very good to use, plus new PLC possibly in the works but that requires aim and skill to use It effects all weapons not just AV weapons lolnades but frankly they never miss, you can have 3 but you have to give up the homing feature on it so it means you have to aim and hit the vehicle You could break that armor tank ya know, shot to teh weakspot breaks it alright or even 2 of you will defo kill it Also adv/proto hulls would sort most of this out because proto would be balanced with proto so that means proto AV would do alot better against basic but frankly its not going to change because we still have std vehicles against proto AV and to make proto AV smash basic would basically be going back to pre 1.7 Also if you dont go back into dropsuits and go into vehicles most will regret it if they change vehicles again and get smashed Intelligence is OP
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12360	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:42:00 - [4] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: 700k is not cheaper than 150k What tank costs 700k? Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7522	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:44:00 - [5] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: It really is shameful that 1.8 is arriving with no vehicle changes. What rock were you living under? Everyone knew 3 months ago that 1.8 wasn't going to be about vehicles. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Scout Registry Nos Nothi 1673	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:46:00 - [6] - Quote o/ Taki! You've been right all along. Infantry are doing it wrong. Proto AV is FINE! I'm so glad you get to keep your win-button. How many months will it be now? Four? That's really awesome.
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 32	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:47:00 - [7] - Quote You couldn't whine in one of the other "OMG HAV R OP" threads instead of making your own? I routinely kill the militia tanks in a suit that costs 12K in ambush while playing solo. Think outside that narrowly focused train of thought and adapt to the situation given the skills and weapons available to you. I also got smoked yesterday in a proto fit Madrugar by 2 people working as a team with AV, part of it was my fault for underestimating how hard a full gambit of proto swarms can hit sometimes. The other part was a coordinated attack by team mates, which is EXACTLY what it should take to kill a well fit ADV tank.
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 32	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:48:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: 700k is not cheaper than 150k What tank costs 700k? A Madrugar with proto gun and proto/adv modules.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1200	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:50:00 - [9] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: 700k is not cheaper than 150k Actually my standard 200k is more expenisve than most AV fits, my proto FG is 150k FG is very good to use, plus new PLC possibly in the works but that requires aim and skill to use It effects all weapons not just AV weapons lolnades but frankly they never miss, you can have 3 but you have to give up the homing feature on it so it means you have to aim and hit the vehicle You could break that armor tank ya know, shot to teh weakspot breaks it alright or even 2 of you will defo kill it Also adv/proto hulls would sort most of this out because proto would be balanced with proto so that means proto AV would do alot better against basic but frankly its not going to change because we still have std vehicles against proto AV and to make proto AV smash basic would basically be going back to pre 1.7 Also if you dont go back into dropsuits and go into vehicles most will regret it if they change vehicles again and get smashed But currently proto doesn't tickle MLT and that's definitely working as intended
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12361	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:57:00 - [10] - Quote RayRay James wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: 700k is not cheaper than 150k What tank costs 700k? A Madrugar with proto gun and proto/adv modules. Could have sworn they worked out to under 500k Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1934	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:58:00 - [11] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Well done i cant even break a armor tank anymore with a proto forge+2 damage mods on it. So tell me why should i keep playing this game? Its literally unplayable at the moment with the current tanks. -tanks cheaper then dropsuits -AV is garbage even on proto lvl -damage mod nerf= AV nerf -AV grenade count reduced to 2 On ambush you cant play as infantry cause every twatt is spamming vehicles. Skirmish is half playable but as soon my team caps all objectives every 1 on the opposite is getting a sniper rifle or railgun tank. This game would be half enjoyable if vehicles would be banned from ambush all together. There is no excuse or purpose for vehicles there they just do stat padding by spawnkilling. Even if you manage to barricade yourself into a building you cant get out. Cause all exits are camped by tanks. 1.8 will be a huge disaster due to the dropsuit refund. Cause allmost nobody with half a brain will get back into dropsuits. Instead they will dump every single skillpoint into vehicles. The last event is a prime example. I see now twice as much vehicles as before and the numbers are growing with each day. I even go so far that AV should be buffed by 50% just to be half capable to deal with the overwhelming numbers of tanks and derpships that are crawling around. Oh and one more thing CCP. GG stands for "get good" not "good game". Why haven't you been banned for spamming the forums with these threads? And you're complaining about not being able to solo a tank. Why are you trying to solo a tank? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 32	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:58:00 - [12] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: RayRay James wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: 700k is not cheaper than 150k What tank costs 700k? A Madrugar with proto gun and proto/adv modules. Could have sworn they worked out to under 500k The one i lost yesterday was just around 700K. Can't remember if it was slightly above or below however, I just know my wallet hurt replacing that one.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12363	Posted - 2014.03.20 17:00:00 - [13] - Quote RayRay James wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: RayRay James wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: 700k is not cheaper than 150k What tank costs 700k? A Madrugar with proto gun and proto/adv modules. Could have sworn they worked out to under 500k The one i lost yesterday was just around 700K. Can't remember if it was slightly above or below however, I just know my wallet hurt replacing that one. Do you run 2 small turrets as well? That's the only way I can see it getting so high up there Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Scout Registry Nos Nothi 1679	Posted - 2014.03.20 17:03:00 - [14] - Quote o/ Spkr! Just saw Taki. You guys are so good at this game. Is Red Star recruiting?
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2810	Posted - 2014.03.20 17:07:00 - [15] - Quote - The only Swarm Launcher users who claimed that Swarm Launchers were fine in 1.7 where they ones using triple damage mods. They are being nerfed by 12% against Armor, more against Shields. - Every Forge Gunner I know uses at least 1 Damage mod, so Forge Guns are getting at least a 5% nerf against Armor, more against shields. - AV grenades going from 3 to 2. On the other hand, in 1.8 you will get WP for DAMAGE against vehicles. Which means if you canGÇÖt kill the tanks, you can at least farm the heck out of them! AV may rival Logi for WP farming now, so there will likely be more people doing it. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1899	Posted - 2014.03.20 17:15:00 - [16] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: plus new PLC possibly in the works but that requires aim and skill to use Just feel obligated as a fan of the plasma cannon to point out that to take out vehicles with one it does not take using skill or aim, it requires using the force. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3062	Posted - 2014.03.20 17:20:00 - [17] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: 700k is not cheaper than 150k What tank costs 700k? Gunlogi all proto turrets Intelligence is OP
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3062	Posted - 2014.03.20 17:21:00 - [18] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: o/ Taki! I'm so glad you get to keep your win-button. How many months will it be now? Four? That's really awesome. I'm glad for you. How's Spkr? Yea only 4 AV had it for at least 6months so im still a way off Intelligence is OP
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 33	Posted - 2014.03.20 17:25:00 - [19] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: That's the only way I can see it getting so high up there Nope, no room on CPU. I had to fit 2 PROCPU mods just to fit everything else
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1104	Posted - 2014.03.20 17:32:00 - [20] - Quote Yes dude I slapped 3 RE`s on the back of an unsuspecting tank earlier, I had them right on the vulnerable engine panel thingy and they only took him down to like 1/3 - 1/2 armour. (he had full health but all of his hardeners were off). Granted each RE only does 1500 dmg, so x 3 thats 4500 but I would have thought they would get a bonus multiplier for being on that vulnerable back part..... it seems not :( Investigate 9/11
Blind Nojoy G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 143	Posted - 2014.03.20 17:54:00 - [21] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: 1.8 will be a huge disaster due to the dropsuit refund. Cause allmost nobody with half a brain will get back into dropsuits. Instead they will dump every single skillpoint into vehicles. I don't think you will be seeing good players do this. I would laugh if they did...a vehicle nerf or AV buff is inevitable - at least if CCP wants to maintain a player base. I personally don't like vehicles. I plan on saving some sp to put into REs, then I'll drive my bpo lav with my bpo scout suit right into some pantywaste tank drivers I-win machine. Until I get bored. Then I'll buy dark souls 2 and play that until they fix the balance.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 860	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:20:00 - [22] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Well done i cant even break a armor tank anymore with a proto forge+2 damage mods on it. So tell me why should i keep playing this game? Because pulling out a militia rail tank is not only more effective but also cheaper. You're making this harder than it needs to be. Respectfully...Leadfoot
Supernus Gigas sNk Syndicate 517	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:29:00 - [23] - Quote You using an Ishukone AFG? Get rid of that weak piece of garbage. It's all about *ALPHA DAMAGE* Get a Wiyrkomi BFG, then get up someplace high where you have a nice view of the burn-zone. Wait for a tank to show up, then wait some more. Don't just start firing at it expecting it to just sit there and die. You need to take it by surprise. You need to fire a shot at it's weakspot, and don't fire at it while it's hardener is up. Charge up the BFG and take aim. Once you see that "168%", let that **** fly. Most of the time the tank will instantly explode. However, they can survive if they are stacking plates and/or extenders, in which case a simple follow up shot anywhere to the tank hull will finish them as they'll have so little Armor left. However, this is how it currently works. I'm not sure how drastic the Damage Mod nerf and Proficiency change are going to affect Forge Guns. Hopefully one-shotting tanks with a BFG is still possible in 1.8. And if it isn't, well you CCP. FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!**
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8486	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:01:00 - [24] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Well done i cant even break a armor tank anymore with a proto forge+2 damage mods on it. So tell me why should i keep playing this game? Its literally unplayable at the moment with the current tanks. -tanks cheaper then dropsuits -AV is garbage even on proto lvl -damage mod nerf= AV nerf -AV grenade count reduced to 2 On ambush you cant play as infantry cause every twatt is spamming vehicles. Skirmish is half playable but as soon my team caps all objectives every 1 on the opposite is getting a sniper rifle or railgun tank. This game would be half enjoyable if vehicles would be banned from ambush all together. There is no excuse or purpose for vehicles there they just do stat padding by spawnkilling. Even if you manage to barricade yourself into a building you cant get out. Cause all exits are camped by tanks. 1.8 will be a huge disaster due to the dropsuit refund. Cause allmost nobody with half a brain will get back into dropsuits. Instead they will dump every single skillpoint into vehicles. The last event is a prime example. I see now twice as much vehicles as before and the numbers are growing with each day. I even go so far that AV should be buffed by 50% just to be half capable to deal with the overwhelming numbers of tanks and derpships that are crawling around. Oh and one more thing CCP. GG stands for "get good" not "good game". Protostomper thinks Ambush is his own personal gamermode and has the audacity to accuse someone else of stat padding "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 893	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:02:00 - [25] - Quote Dark Cloud talking about stat padding. hahahahaahahahha Assault rifle has nothing on me
noobsniper the 2nd OLDSPICE. Top Men. 295	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:05:00 - [26] - Quote My maddy costs 450k same with my ds your rant is invalid even my best av fit all proto prof 5fg by the way doesn't cost nearly as much also if u cant solo a tank with a fg your bad I do it all the time just call me communist space king noob MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3580	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:14:00 - [27] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: It really is shameful that 1.8 is arriving with no vehicle changes. What rock were you living under? Everyone knew 3 months ago that 1.8 wasn't going to be about vehicles. We're not talking new content. Every update comes with some balances. No.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3580	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:18:00 - [28] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Dark Cloud talking about stat padding. hahahahaahahahha I've seen Cloud crash dropships into camped squads just to push them off a point. I'm not sure he fits the bill of your typical stat-wh0re No.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1202	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:24:00 - [29] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Scout Registry wrote: o/ Taki! I'm so glad you get to keep your win-button. How many months will it be now? Four? That's really awesome. I'm glad for you. How's Spkr? Yea only 4 AV had it for at least 6months so im still a way off I see spkr has been rubbing off his scrubbournness on someone else !!!!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12370	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:32:00 - [30] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Well done i cant even break a armor tank anymore with a proto forge+2 damage mods on it. So tell me why should i keep playing this game? Because pulling out a militia rail tank is not only more effective but also cheaper. And you don't see the problem here? Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot

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