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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2014.03.19 22:42:00 -
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Dropping out 1 shield ext isnt much as for that bonus. Good egnouth players will.
No matter how much hp you have when they cant see you, while you can see them. If youre good, you dont need tons of hp to kill somone.
Scout who will first start to shoot gonna wipe enemy ass. (probably with CR, as best % dmg gun [95/110]) |
Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.19 22:50:00 -
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I have a fit ready with two complex precision enhancers. With Precision Enhancement to 5 it should be able to see basically everything except Gal scouts with one or more profile damps.
I'm a bit wary of the numbers of protofits, however, so I'm waiting for release to see the actual numbers.
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2014.03.19 22:56:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:I have a fit ready with two complex precision enhancers. With Precision Enhancement to 5 it should be able to see basically everything except Gal scouts with one or more profile damps.
I'm a bit wary of the numbers of protofits, however, so I'm waiting for release to see the actual numbers.
Cal dont see gal, gal dont see cal. All in harmony. (gal with 2 enchs. wont see cal with damp amd cloak) |
CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
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Posted - 2014.03.20 00:33:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Scout who will first start to shoot gonna wipe enemy ass.
Is that before or after they eat some pieces of sh!t for breakfast?
My other dropsuit is a Python.
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2014.03.20 13:46:00 -
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CRNWLLC wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Scout who will first start to shoot gonna wipe enemy ass. Is that before or after they eat some pieces of sh!t for breakfast?
Its super easy to out strafe and out dps them |
William HBonney
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
398
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:16:00 -
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with the new TTK scouts will need a lot more then first hit...increased TTK hurts scouts because autoAim still works on the scouts ability to strafe but the max HP of a scout is still small making death just as fast....on a 400hp scout the ScR will kill you in 11 bullets, RR will do it in 10, CR in 13.4 and AR in 12, on the flip side if you are trying to kill someone with with 800hp, which is not difficult for mediums and heavies to have you will have to use twice as many bullets. This is assuming everything hits, which it doesn't
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1136
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:20:00 -
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I'll be running one advanced precision enhancer on my ADV scout, and two complex on my proto. FYR two advanced precision enhancers (assuming Lv5 in relevant skills) is enough to see any medium or heavy suit no matter how much they stack dampeners. |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:39:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:I have a fit ready with two complex precision enhancers. With Precision Enhancement to 5 it should be able to see basically everything except Gal scouts with one or more profile damps.
I'm a bit wary of the numbers of protofits, however, so I'm waiting for release to see the actual numbers. Cal dont see gal, gal dont see cal. All in harmony. (gal with 2 enchs. wont see cal with damp amd cloak)
The thing is the Gal WILL see Cal unless the Caldari is running 2 dampeners. Yes cloaking will stop the Gallente from picking up the Caldari, but you must decloak to fire.
Thus Gallente will see the Caldari before they can fire, especially with any kind of range extender. The opposite is not true.
Consider a Caldari scout, 4 precision enhancers and 2 dampeners will not pick up a Gallente with 2 dampeners. The Gallente with 2 precision enhancers and 2 damps will not pick up the Caldari but has the extra slots.
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Sleepy Shadow
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
121
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:58:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Dropping out 1 shield ext isnt much as for that bonus. Good egnouth players will.
No matter how much hp you have when they cant see you, while you can see them. If youre good, you dont need tons of hp to kill somone.
Scout who will first start to shoot gonna wipe enemy ass. (probably with CR, as best % dmg gun [95/110])
Because most scouts you see after 1.8 have no interest in being a scout. Same as most logis you see today have no interest in being logis. Actual Caldari scouts probably will equip enhancers but only to find pesky Gallente scouts. For all other suits the innate precision is more than enough to see everyone, Caldari scout without any modules has a precision of 30. Medium and heavy suits would have to dampen hard to evade that. Even Minmitar and Amarr scouts need to dampen to evade the Caldari.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.20 15:17:00 -
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I disagree when you say "good enough players will". just because someone decided not to do that, doesn't mean they aren't "good enough".
I have no plans too equip precision enhancers on my scout ck.0, mainly because I don't need them. sure, the gallente scout will be able to get under my scan, but I don't rely on the TACNET. while it is useful, I also make sure to stay SITUATIONALLY aware, as in what I can see on my screen, not just the TACNET. it's essentially no different than it is now. most scouts get under my scans now, so it's not that big of a deal if only 1 type of suit will regularly dodge my scans in 1.8.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
603
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Posted - 2014.03.20 15:20:00 -
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You are all welcome
Side note: If you want to see any non-gallente's profile with a cloak, just look at the gallente's profile numbers.
gallente w/ cloak and 2 damps = undetectable by anything/everything in-game atm.
There is NEVER a reason to put more than 3 precision mods on the caldari... never.
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
131
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Posted - 2014.03.20 15:33:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:You are all welcomeSide note: If you want to see any non-gallente's profile with a cloak, just look at the gallente's profile numbers. gallente w/ cloak and 2 damps = undetectable by anything/everything in-game atm. There is NEVER a reason to put more than 3 precision mods on the caldari... never.
^^ Werd.
My other dropsuit is a Python.
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1138
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Posted - 2014.03.20 15:57:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:I have a fit ready with two complex precision enhancers. With Precision Enhancement to 5 it should be able to see basically everything except Gal scouts with one or more profile damps.
I'm a bit wary of the numbers of protofits, however, so I'm waiting for release to see the actual numbers. Cal dont see gal, gal dont see cal. All in harmony. (gal with 2 enchs. wont see cal with damp amd cloak) The thing is the Gal WILL see Cal unless the Caldari is running 2 dampeners. Yes cloaking will stop the Gallente from picking up the Caldari, but you must decloak to fire. Thus Gallente will see the Caldari before they can fire, especially with any kind of range extender. The opposite is not true. Consider a Caldari scout, 4 precision enhancers and 2 dampeners will not pick up a Gallente with 2 dampeners. The Gallente with 2 precision enhancers and 2 damps will not pick up the Caldari but has the extra slots.
This argument is always brought up, but people fail to realize that the Caldari doesn't NEED to stack more than two complex precision enhancers. Using only two will still force the Gallente to use two slots for dampening to stay off the radar while uncloaked. Same thing goes for the Gallente equipping two complex precision enhancers and making the Caldari use two dampeners.
So both suits are left with two slots. For the Caldari the clear choice is HP, where the Gallente has more options as lows are versatile.
Do take note that the Gallente's scan precision is less effective than the Caldari's, who can still detect other scout suits running two complex dampeners AND the cloak. |
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