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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:25:00 -
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I just got out of a domination matxh, shotguns 3, std snotgun, I did well, it was an open map too, its just a cqc gun, 3 shotted a heavy.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:27:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:28:00 -
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Atiim wrote:............................................________
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How are they super underpowered...
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:29:00 -
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never said they were. i actually believe that other than the damn sprinting bug, the shotgun is relatively balanced.
the problem is that CCP is changing the proficiency bonus. last time i recall, i didn't skill shotgun proficiency 5 for some lame bonus damage to shields. i trained it for the RoF bonus it gives. that is 10x more helpful than bonus damage, because even with bonuses to shields, targets will still be killed in roughly the same amount of shots. it's more important to be able to get the shots off before they can turn around and insta-kill you, but apparently, CCP doesn't understand that.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:31:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:never said they were. i actually believe that other than the damn sprinting bug, the shotgun is relatively balanced.
the problem is that CCP is changing the proficiency bonus. last time i recall, i didn't skill shotgun proficiency 5 for some lame bonus damage to shields. i trained it for the RoF bonus it gives. that is 10x more helpful than bonus damage, because even with bonues to shields, targets will still be killed in roughly the same amount of shots. it's more important to be able to get the shots off before they can turn around and insta-kill you, but apparently, CCP doesn't understand that.
All they need is a 1m range before dropoff buff and slightly kess damage reduction at range (its range not 50m lol)
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:33:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:never said they were. i actually believe that other than the damn sprinting bug, the shotgun is relatively balanced.
the problem is that CCP is changing the proficiency bonus. last time i recall, i didn't skill shotgun proficiency 5 for some lame bonus damage to shields. i trained it for the RoF bonus it gives. that is 10x more helpful than bonus damage, because even with bonues to shields, targets will still be killed in roughly the same amount of shots. it's more important to be able to get the shots off before they can turn around and insta-kill you, but apparently, CCP doesn't understand that. All they need is a 1m range before dropoff buff and slightly kess damage reduction at range (its range not 50m lol)
not even that. the hit detection, and the MANY bugs you get while using the shotgun needs to be fixed and the proficiency needs to stay as it is. that's all it needs.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:35:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:never said they were. i actually believe that other than the damn sprinting bug, the shotgun is relatively balanced.
the problem is that CCP is changing the proficiency bonus. last time i recall, i didn't skill shotgun proficiency 5 for some lame bonus damage to shields. i trained it for the RoF bonus it gives. that is 10x more helpful than bonus damage, because even with bonues to shields, targets will still be killed in roughly the same amount of shots. it's more important to be able to get the shots off before they can turn around and insta-kill you, but apparently, CCP doesn't understand that. All they need is a 1m range before dropoff buff and slightly kess damage reduction at range (its range not 50m lol) not even that. the hit detection, and the MANY bugs you get while using the shotgun needs to be fixed and the proficiency needs to stay as it is. that's all it needs.
Or the rof buff built in...
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:35:00 -
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When they work they work, the other half the time im plaged with terible hit detection witb them.
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:03:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
Or the rof buff built in...
If you're suggesting the shotgun is getting a RoF buf in 1.8 I'll tell you that you're wrong.
1.8 SDE: mMode0.fireInterval = 0.7
1.7 SDE: mMode0.fireInterval = 0.7
If you're mumbling on about anything else than I'd really suggest you to put some more effort into your posts. I shouldn't have to spend more time contemplating what you meant than actually reading the post
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:05:00 -
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Saying that a thing is either OP or UP based on doing good in one or two matches is frankly siad stupid. I went 15-4 with a plasma cannon alt, and it's still a piece of crap.
And as I've said many times before, I would rather hold my judgement and wait until 1.8 drops before calling the shotgun useless. There's just some things pure math can't tell us.
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:26:00 -
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It's not a bad weapon. The problem is it cannot compete with the hit scan weapons in any area, even CQC.
In a straight 5m duel against say a CR the shotgun loses 80% of the time. All the rifles get AA but the shotgun doesn't...making it the precision weapon. So I can just spray my rifle wildly or I can struggle to land hits with the shotgun. Don't even get me started on the hit detection.
Is this UP shotgun or OP Rifles? Your choice.
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G0DS AM0NG MEN
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:35:00 -
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I like the shotgun, I like it so much I gave up my 1.8 HMG, the blood splatter on a good shot... Jumping up and headshotting that lol strafe proto suit, the frantic jumps of a heavy trying to escape, delicious. Also I enjoy being a scout over a heavy... The speed, the freedom, seeing reds through the walls at 50m (module of course)passively! Waiting as a red approaches and putting 2 in his head, putting an RE down waiting for the red on the radar to step on it and ending his pitiful existance. Being seen by none and seeing all, only thing I heard they were nerfing ScP, my trusty murderous sidearm.
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Preferred fit 1 complex damage mod, 2 mlt kin cats, basic HMG, flux grenade on a std sentinel
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
477
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:55:00 -
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Hit detection lol
Iron sights lol
Aim down sights turn speed lol
Effective range lol
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:08:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:When they work they work, the other half the time im plaged with terible hit detection witb them.
And even IF they work they are rather weak for their drawbacks |
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