You couldn't be any more wrong. If you really make tight fittings, the optimization skill on level 3 could already give you the possibility to use one module or equipment on proto level instead of advanced.

Since apparently you are a 24/7 proto-tryhard,

why dont you learn to read.....

I use them for PC (suits inc.) not pubs (except shields)

All skills should impact at all levels

on all the possible loadouts (proto suit level) there is no need or point in spending SP into this book (reducing PG to light weapons and side arm).

I dont mind the hight multiplier if it opened up some fittings. But it does nothing.


not sure what numbers whether to buff it 7% per level to make a difference but it needs reworking/ boosting.

nope

For PC i use proto equipment/ weapons/ modules

...The benefit to dropping the pg by 1 just isnt worth the investment/ doesnt give you a big enough gap. Perhaps by 2PG may give you greater leeway to make some fittings. But at proto level which is what I am interested in fitting - to justify such a high multiplier - makes no sense....
...The majority of PC players run basic/ advanced in pubs/ fw and play many pub/ FW matches not just PC matches.

I have all the core skills that provide passive buffs maxed out, but optimization lets me fit an SB-39 on a standard Caldari Assault while still keeping all the other goodies I want. I didn't need to max it out, but I did need it.

lol my first post said proto level

yes - I have run numerous configs on a min and cal logi and cal assault. The benefit to dropping the pg by 1 just isnt worth the investment/ doesnt give you a big enough gap. Perhaps by 2PG may give you greater leeway to make some fittings. But at proto level which is what I am interested in fitting - to justify such a high multiplier - makes no sense.



Malkal - this is not about running 23.5/7 20/7 or any other version its about making skills relevant. The majority of PC players run basic/ advanced in pubs/ fw and play many pub/ FW matches not just PC matches.

Then I'll refer you to my first post in this thread:



I needed to get Rail Rifle optimization up to 3 to make the fitting I wanted work. It was a high SP investment to get the handful of PG I needed on a 20something thousand isk suit, but that's the suit I run about 90% of the time. Optimization made the difference between using a standard rail rifle and an advanced one.

Looking now at the numbers for some different weapons, I wouldn't have needed the optimization to get the same results had I gone for combat rifles instead of rail rifles; an ADV RR uses 12 PG, where a CR at the same level only uses 4; even a proto CR only takes 8 PG.

So, if your argument had been "a PG reduction skill for Combat rifles is stupid," I would have completely agreed with you. It comes down to the weapon.

That quote was for Malkal who was claiming it was about running proto 24/7 - 23.5/7

I can understand your point at lower levels. But I still find no benefit a the proto level I am talking about.