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Hobo on Fire
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.03.18 15:54:00 -
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Since apparently you are a 24/7 proto-tryhard, I'll put this simply: Not everyone who can use proto-gear does.
I have all the core skills that provide passive buffs maxed out, but optimization lets me fit an SB-39 on a standard Caldari Assault while still keeping all the other goodies I want. I didn't need to max it out, but I did need it.
Just because you don't use it doesn't make it worthless. |
Hobo on Fire
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.03.18 16:25:00 -
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xAckie wrote:Hobo on Fire wrote:Since apparently you are a 24/7 proto-tryhard, why dont you learn to read..... I use them for PC (suits inc.) not pubs (except shields) All skills should impact at all levels
xAckie wrote:on all the possible loadouts (proto suit level) there is no need or point in spending SP into this book (reducing PG to light weapons and side arm).
I dont mind the hight multiplier if it opened up some fittings. But it does nothing.
not sure what numbers whether to buff it 7% per level to make a difference but it needs reworking/ boosting.
I did read. You made no argument for "working at all levels" in your OP, and now you are backpedaling.
If that had been your initial reasoning, I would have been inclined to agree with you. You only argued for proto suits in PC though, which doesn't apply to the vast majority of the dust playerbase. Perhaps the skills could use a buff in a few cases.. or maybe the suits are too powerful at high levels?)
I'm curious, did you do any testing with logi suits using all proto equipment? I could see fitting reductions for the weapons being valuable there. |
Hobo on Fire
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:25:00 -
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xAckie wrote:
...The benefit to dropping the pg by 1 just isnt worth the investment/ doesnt give you a big enough gap. Perhaps by 2PG may give you greater leeway to make some fittings. But at proto level which is what I am interested in fitting - to justify such a high multiplier - makes no sense....
...The majority of PC players run basic/ advanced in pubs/ fw and play many pub/ FW matches not just PC matches.
Then I'll refer you to my first post in this thread:
Hobo on Fire wrote:
I have all the core skills that provide passive buffs maxed out, but optimization lets me fit an SB-39 on a standard Caldari Assault while still keeping all the other goodies I want. I didn't need to max it out, but I did need it.
I needed to get Rail Rifle optimization up to 3 to make the fitting I wanted work. It was a high SP investment to get the handful of PG I needed on a 20something thousand isk suit, but that's the suit I run about 90% of the time. Optimization made the difference between using a standard rail rifle and an advanced one.
Looking now at the numbers for some different weapons, I wouldn't have needed the optimization to get the same results had I gone for combat rifles instead of rail rifles; an ADV RR uses 12 PG, where a CR at the same level only uses 4; even a proto CR only takes 8 PG.
So, if your argument had been "a PG reduction skill for Combat rifles is stupid," I would have completely agreed with you. It comes down to the weapon. |
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