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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2014.03.18 07:53:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Its called rushing in a scr fit The basic scr has trouble killing armor tankers, I use a scr scp setup so its weak to armor...but I dont care, its my money making fit...
*Cough* Shield tanked Caldari Assault *Cough, cough* Have fun charging an SCR. I use a Rail Rifle. I kill people with a STD RR in a "Raven" Assault C-1. And a Breach SMG. And Basic modules. 288 Shields, 150 armor.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.18 07:55:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Its called rushing in a scr fit The basic scr has trouble killing armor tankers, I use a scr scp setup so its weak to armor...but I dont care, its my money making fit...
*Cough* Shield tanked Caldari Assault *Cough, cough* Have fun charging an SCR. I use a Rail Rifle. I kill people with a STD RR in a "Raven" Assault C-1. And a Breach SMG. And Basic modules. 288 Shields, 150 armor. Yea most of the time I use std weapons Std cr Std rr Std scr Std scp
Closed beta vet
Logi,
Heavy,
Python,
Scout.
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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
453
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Posted - 2014.03.18 07:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:The definition of Assault is not to slay.....my god.....
as-+sault noun \+Ö--êso¦çlt\ law : the crime of trying or threatening to hurt someone physically : a violent physical attack : a military attack
EasyBib
Full Definition of ASSAULT
1 a : a violent physical or verbal attack b : a military attack usually involving direct combat with enemy forces c : a concerted effort (as to reach a goal or defeat an adversary)
2 a : a threat or attempt to inflict offensive physical contact or bodily harm on a person (as by lifting a fist in a threatening manner) that puts the person in immediate danger of or in apprehension of such harm or contact GÇö compare battery 1b b : **** 2
See assault defined for English-language learners -+ See assault defined for kids -+ I'm so glad I'm not the only one peeved by people tossing around the word slayer. You've played way too much halo if you actually consider slayer a class.
And one more thing! It is a common misconception that your suit is your class. The suit is just a template to build your own classes. For example, I could make a medic with a scout suit, an A.V. with a logistic suit, or a sniper with a fat suit. Sure some suits are better for some roles than others, but you are not locked into playing any one role by your suits.
Assault suit user QQ over!
I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2014.03.18 07:57:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Its called rushing in a scr fit The basic scr has trouble killing armor tankers, I use a scr scp setup so its weak to armor...but I dont care, its my money making fit...
*Cough* Shield tanked Caldari Assault *Cough, cough* If you didnt know its a low hp suit and like I said I rush Templar logi Or staff recruiter mlt frame. Oh and I never see cal assaults purely shield tank like I do. And yet, I do. 2 Basic Extenders, 1 Basic Damage Mod, 1 Basic Profile Dampener, 1 Shield Recharger (or whatever it is that goes on the lows), STD Rail Rifle, STD Breach Submachine Gun, STD AV Grenades, and STD Nanite Injector. On a "Raven" Assault C-1. 288 Shields, 150 Armor (Full Shields and Armor Upgrades). ~9K per suit. And killing proto suits with ease.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
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Posted - 2014.03.18 07:58:00 -
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*popcorn*
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
538
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Posted - 2014.03.18 07:59:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Its called rushing in a scr fit The basic scr has trouble killing armor tankers, I use a scr scp setup so its weak to armor...but I dont care, its my money making fit...
*Cough* Shield tanked Caldari Assault *Cough, cough* If you didnt know its a low hp suit and like I said I rush Templar logi Or staff recruiter mlt frame. Oh and I never see cal assaults purely shield tank like I do. And yet, I do. 2 Basic Extenders, 1 Basic Damage Mod, 1 Basic Profile Dampener, 1 Shield Recharger (or whatever it is that goes on the lows), STD Rail Rifle, STD Breach Submachine Gun, STD AV Grenades, and STD Nanite Injector. On a "Raven" Assault C-1. 288 Shields, 150 Armor (Full Shields and Armor Upgrades). ~9K per suit. And killing proto suits with ease. Yea on my tanking alt I killed a proto hea y with a medic fit. And my suit gets instakilled but I dont care, its a money making fit No mods, just the auits and weapons. Plus I play on a 20 inch tv, it really sucks.
Ps Shield regulator goes in the lows.
Oh ps A std assault suit doesnt have 3 high slots.
Closed beta vet
Logi,
Heavy,
Python,
Scout.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
816
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Posted - 2014.03.18 08:02:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Its called rushing in a scr fit The basic scr has trouble killing armor tankers, I use a scr scp setup so its weak to armor...but I dont care, its my money making fit...
*Cough* Shield tanked Caldari Assault *Cough, cough* If you didnt know its a low hp suit and like I said I rush Templar logi Or staff recruiter mlt frame. Oh and I never see cal assaults purely shield tank like I do. And yet, I do. 2 Basic Extenders, 1 Basic Damage Mod, 1 Basic Profile Dampener, 1 Shield Recharger (or whatever it is that goes on the lows), STD Rail Rifle, STD Breach Submachine Gun, STD AV Grenades, and STD Nanite Injector. On a "Raven" Assault C-1. 288 Shields, 150 Armor (Full Shields and Armor Upgrades). ~9K per suit. And killing proto suits with ease. Yea on my tanking alt I killed a proto hea y with a medic fit. And my suit gets instakilled but I dont care, its a money making fit No mods, just the auits and weapons. Plus I play on a 20 inch tv, it really sucks. Ps Shield regulator goes in the lows. Oh ps A std assault suit doesnt have 3 high slots. Hmmm....
I could have sworn.... Well, perhaps not. I'll look at my fitting and stuff.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2014.03.18 08:07:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote: Hmmm....
I could have sworn.... Well, perhaps not. I'll look at my fitting and stuff.
Now that I think about it, you're right, and it's one Damage Mod, one Extender. Still everything else is correct.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
953
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Posted - 2014.03.18 08:17:00 -
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I'm really looking forward to being an assault in 1.8 - It's going to be my 2nd Proto over my already established scout.
We're getting a load of passive buffs in the stats regarding shields and stamina (for my minmatar at least, didn't look at the others admittedly)
Also I'm a little jealous of the Cal bonus. I've been playing as a commando more and a bonus to reload is really good - Alright its not very exciting but it looks so professional being able to reload that fast. To my mind a mark of a well trained military and tactically very beneficial. Its just so slick and efficient. Not to mention forcing a reload is my current strategy for wasting RR users right now - and one thats worked very well up to this point... a little worried about how I'd tackle a Cal Assault now
As for the Gals - I for one would be very scared of having one running at me. He's simply not going to miss. ADS or strafing he's going to place his shots exactly where he lines up. It would be nice if the bonus catered more for the other Gal weapons, particularly the PC, but then again I'm loosing a bonus to my flaylock so I guess its even
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2014.03.18 08:24:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:I'm really looking forward to being an assault in 1.8 - It's going to be my 2nd Proto over my already established scout. We're getting a load of passive buffs in the stats regarding shields and stamina (for my minmatar at least, didn't look at the others admittedly) Also I'm a little jealous of the Cal bonus. I've been playing as a commando more and a bonus to reload is really good - Alright its not very exciting but it looks so professional being able to reload that fast. To my mind a mark of a well trained military and tactically very beneficial. Its just so slick and efficient. Not to mention forcing a reload is my current strategy for wasting RR users right now - and one thats worked very well up to this point... a little worried about how I'd tackle a Cal Assault now As for the Gals - I for one would be very scared of having one running at me. He's simply not going to miss. ADS or strafing he's going to place his shots exactly where he lines up. It would be nice if the bonus catered more for the other Gal weapons, particularly the PC, but then again I'm loosing a bonus to my flaylock so I guess its even Broon, that would't work with me, even without the new CalAssault bonus. I have Prof 4, Fitting Op 3, Ammo Cap 3 and Rapid Reload 5 on my RR. Add the new CalAssault bonus and I'll be a reloading ninja.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.18 08:29:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:I'm really looking forward to being an assault in 1.8 - It's going to be my 2nd Proto over my already established scout. We're getting a load of passive buffs in the stats regarding shields and stamina (for my minmatar at least, didn't look at the others admittedly) Also I'm a little jealous of the Cal bonus. I've been playing as a commando more and a bonus to reload is really good - Alright its not very exciting but it looks so professional being able to reload that fast. To my mind a mark of a well trained military and tactically very beneficial. Its just so slick and efficient. Not to mention forcing a reload is my current strategy for wasting RR users right now - and one thats worked very well up to this point... a little worried about how I'd tackle a Cal Assault now As for the Gals - I for one would be very scared of having one running at me. He's simply not going to miss. ADS or strafing he's going to place his shots exactly where he lines up. It would be nice if the bonus catered more for the other Gal weapons, particularly the PC, but then again I'm loosing a bonus to my flaylock so I guess its even Broon, that would't work with me, even without the new CalAssault bonus. I have Prof 4, Fitting Op 3, Ammo Cap 3 and Rapid Reload 5 on my RR. Add the new CalAssault bonus and I'll be a reloading ninja. 07 You obviously saw the flaws in the weapon and compensated for it. Luckily for me most players don't seem to be very smart.
Then I go to my other well established and highly character Minmatar tactic
RUN AWAY!!
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2014.03.18 08:33:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:I'm really looking forward to being an assault in 1.8 - It's going to be my 2nd Proto over my already established scout. We're getting a load of passive buffs in the stats regarding shields and stamina (for my minmatar at least, didn't look at the others admittedly) Also I'm a little jealous of the Cal bonus. I've been playing as a commando more and a bonus to reload is really good - Alright its not very exciting but it looks so professional being able to reload that fast. To my mind a mark of a well trained military and tactically very beneficial. Its just so slick and efficient. Not to mention forcing a reload is my current strategy for wasting RR users right now - and one thats worked very well up to this point... a little worried about how I'd tackle a Cal Assault now As for the Gals - I for one would be very scared of having one running at me. He's simply not going to miss. ADS or strafing he's going to place his shots exactly where he lines up. It would be nice if the bonus catered more for the other Gal weapons, particularly the PC, but then again I'm loosing a bonus to my flaylock so I guess its even Broon, that would't work with me, even without the new CalAssault bonus. I have Prof 4, Fitting Op 3, Ammo Cap 3 and Rapid Reload 5 on my RR. Add the new CalAssault bonus and I'll be a reloading ninja. 07 You obviously saw the flaws in the weapon and compensated for it. Luckily for me most players don't seem to be very smart. Then I go to my other well established and highly character Minmatar tactic RUN AWAY!! Well, at least you know your best strategy. Still, if your back is to me, I have the advantage. Why? Because you can't shoot back, that's why.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
872
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Posted - 2014.03.18 09:44:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Ironically, they aren't posting complaints about a complaint. Ironically, he is not posting a complaint about complaint. Also, irony right here too.
you're the father
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
409
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Posted - 2014.03.18 09:52:00 -
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Magnus shortbus
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
222
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Posted - 2014.03.18 09:57:00 -
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I dunno... I think I've seen a bit more QQ from the logi players lately. The assaults are putting out a decent amount as well as those wanting the Amarr assault to not only have bonuses comparable to the other scout suits but also about 50% more HP than the other scouts.
The Caldari and Gallente bonuses do seem kinda meh at first glance, but I think once people figure out they can invest a few more SP into either reload or sharpshooter to make their specific guns amazing at what they do, there will be a lot less complaining. Gallente will have hipfire lasers on every rifle and Caldari will be able to reload almost as fast as I can charge my nova knives.
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
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Posted - 2014.03.18 09:59:00 -
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Meee One wrote:The assault class. Whether it's QQing about logi slots saying essentially saying they want us to die more. Near endless QQ about anyone out killing them. Or QQing about dying to an HMG within its optimal.
Assaults are the prissyest most spoiled role in dust (generally,not all assaults are like this).
These players come from COD and BF as well as Planet Side and brag about this fact often,frequently making comparisons as if validifies their points about nerfing other suits.
Assaults read the word "versatile" in the suit description and automatically believed that this entitles them to having the best layout and QQ endlessly about logis slots because of it.
Let us look at the varients of the smg for a comparison as to how CCP believes assaults should be played. There is the standard SMG: -Middle ground with no direct advantages (this represents logis and medium frames) There is the breach: -Higher damage but lower ROF (this represents heavies,and the inverse represents scouts and light suits) There is the assault: -Moderate ROF increase and magazine size increase but still does the same damage as the regular varient (this refers to assaults).
Now lets look at the bonuses: Role Bonus: 5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons
Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level. Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level. Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm clip size per level. Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.
I would say those bonuses are pretty versatile. Caldari are dangerous at long and medium range. Gallente are dangerous in CQC and at medium range. Minmatar are dangerous in extended gunfights. Amarr are dangerous for the raw power they can output without stopping.
These bonuses cover 100% of all possible battlefield conditions,each one is specifically designed to pick up where another leaves off.
But unfortunately assaults think they should have all bonuses all at once on a single suit (or at least that's how the prissyest ones act).
They believe the definition of assault means to slay....it doesn't. Assault means to attack,or to apply constant force to defeat defenses. Slaying isn't and shouldn't be limited to just assaults,but i personally believe that assaults should be faster at it and be able to do it for longer periods,as the assault SMG and their current bonuses imply. i guess im the assault guy that breaks all other stereotypes.
i cannot recall the last time i QQed and i didnt come from any other fps background. this game is actually the first fps i have ever owned.
and i am rather happy about our new bonuses.
Assault Gk.0
Gallente Federation Patriot
General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
365
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Posted - 2014.03.18 11:16:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:"Goes to PC"
"Sees only Proto Logis and heavies"
Hmmm...weird... "Waits till 1.8 before jumping to conclusions" "Sees you looking like a fool" Told you so.
Eh, I still think heavies will be there. They're getting resistance and the HMG is not being touched while all 4 of the most commonly used weapons in the game are bering nerfed. I still think logis will be viable, they're basically the same just without regen and another bonus. They'll still be able to act as assault fairly well.
I bet there will be a couple more scouts but I don't see why equipment spam and HMG cqc domination would changed too much in PC. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.03.18 11:21:00 -
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I'm not assault, but the Gallente bonus only works for the AR class and completely changes the shotgun role and makes it worse. Plasma Cannon is not affected in any way.
Caldari get the old Commando bonus.
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
563
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Posted - 2014.03.18 15:12:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I'm not assault, but the Gallente bonus only works for the AR class and completely changes the shotgun role and makes it worse. Plasma Cannon is not affected in any way.
Caldari get the old Commando bonus.
CCP doesn't know how to make a FPS. That is the good thing about a F2P system like this one has. They can keep ironing until all the wrinkles are out.
I game over like a boss.
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