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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7476	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:42:00 - [1] - Quote I realized that they need a price reduction. Running them from time to time, not every match, my wallet was drained from 166mil to 155mil. The slightest love tap on an assault dropship = Boom, no more dropship Rail tanks in praticular destroy you before you can react Even hitting a wall, VERY GENTLY, can often make your dropship explode. And by gently I mean like 0.1m/s collision. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11288	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:42:00 - [2] - Quote but ads will be spammed and op You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 240	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:44:00 - [3] - Quote If it coincides with a swarm buff and a railgun nerf, ok Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 1893	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:44:00 - [4] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: but ads will be spammed and op Instead, both rise tanks Price to ADS Price and buff a bit ADS HP >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 546	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:44:00 - [5] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I realized that they need a price reduction. Running them from time to time, not every match, my wallet was drained from 166mil to 155mil. The slightest love tap on an assault dropship = Boom, no more dropship Rail tanks in praticular destroy you before you can react Even hitting a wall, VERY GENTLY, can often make your dropship explode. And by gently I mean like 0.1m/s collision. Now imagine getting addicted to them... My wallet is pretty much drained since 1.7 dropped... But their so much fun. ADSs are like drugs, but what is more like a drug are the drugs. I've used that paraphrase twice today... xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
SgtDoughnut DUST University Ivy League 518	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:47:00 - [6] - Quote Been praticing flying these on alts in academy, god they are fun to fly once you figure them out. I feel for the dedicated pilots out there they are expensive.
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 969	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:51:00 - [7] - Quote Yay glad you agree with us! I hope you also understand how unbalanced rail tanks are.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7476	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:56:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: but ads will be spammed and op Silly Arkena, you addmited in Skype chat you don't really think that, don't be such a bad human. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Meee One The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 539	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:04:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I realized that they need a price reduction. Running them from time to time, not every match, my wallet was drained from 166mil to 155mil. The slightest love tap on an assault dropship = Boom, no more dropship Rail tanks in praticular destroy you before you can react Even hitting a wall, VERY GENTLY, can often make your dropship explode. And by gently I mean like 0.1m/s collision. Lolno,i just played an ambush vs you and 4 of your vehicle spamming allies. You killed clones with 1 shot and 4 simultaneous swarm barrages couldn't bring you down. Oh and did i mention you had 4 vehicle spamming allies with you? For a sum total of 2 ADS and 3 HAVs. Your team still had 50+ clones when the match was over. Oh and about the price....you farmed ambush easily enough just keep doing that you scrub. I game over like a boss.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7477	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:06:00 - [10] - Quote Meee One wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I realized that they need a price reduction. Running them from time to time, not every match, my wallet was drained from 166mil to 155mil. The slightest love tap on an assault dropship = Boom, no more dropship Rail tanks in praticular destroy you before you can react Even hitting a wall, VERY GENTLY, can often make your dropship explode. And by gently I mean like 0.1m/s collision. Lolno,i just played an ambush vs you and 4 of your vehicle spamming allies. You killed clones with 1 shot and 4 simultaneous swarm barrages couldn't bring you down. Oh and did i mention you had 4 vehicle spamming allies with you? For a sum total of 2 ADS and 3 HAVs. Your team still had 50+ clones when the match was over. Oh and about the price....you farmed ambush easily enough just keep doing that you scrub. Swarms are actually bugged and do half damage to dropships. You guys were enough to make me run away multiple times, with only 600 HP left. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514

Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 632	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:07:00 - [11] - Quote If you got a good tank or 2 you can work with Cat, i'd suggest an Incubus stacked with armor. No side turrets, just armor and the pilot turret. Much more fun to fly than a pythyon imo (once you get used to the weight) and you can bumble around like a drunk elephant with an inner ear infection. No building bumps will kill you. Suggest flying insanely low and using vs infantry as opposed to vehicles. You will still lose 'em of course, but the armor lets you be more daring flight wise, and the weight will make you an ace in regards to straight up flying. Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood. Futurama
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1100	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:16:00 - [12] - Quote Prices should be balanced around ISK destroyed, not the ability to run profitably. CCP should do a simple calculation: total_ISK_of_assets_destroyed_by_dropships / number_of_dropships_killed for the data since 1.7 released. In other words, if dropships are averaging 600K in in suits, tanks, and other dropships per death, then the price should be roughly 600K. If they're only destroying 150K ISK then that's roughly what they should cost. The same is true of tanks. Best PvE idea ever!
Cyrius Li-Moody 4031	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:19:00 - [13] - Quote I think learning to fly a dropship cost me like 15 million isk. What I learned in that time is that they are absolutely infuriating but pretty fun when you're not dying to a bunch of stupid stuff. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 3060	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:25:00 - [14] - Quote You need a day job to pay for flying. It's the one role that isn't economically viable.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 632	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:33:00 - [15] - Quote I absolutely hemorrhage ISK flying ADSs, but it's a call I can't ignore, and well worth it, as it keeps me from going permenantly insane and rage quiting. I will probably be at least doubling time spent in the air post 1.8. Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood. Futurama
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 270	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:37:00 - [16] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Prices should be balanced around ISK destroyed, not the ability to run profitably. CCP should do a simple calculation: total_ISK_of_assets_destroyed_by_dropships / number_of_dropships_killed for the data since 1.7 released. In other words, if dropships are averaging 600K in in suits, tanks, and other dropships per death, then the price should be roughly 600K. If they're only destroying 150K ISK then that's roughly what they should cost. The same is true of tanks. Do you not think that will skew the price higher than they should be, based on the fact that inexperienced or plain poor pilots will not kill much, experienced pilots will kill a lot, and most regular ADS fliers are far more likely to be experienced as they can probably afford it a little more easily? (Due to dying less coz they're good) I spent a month or so having fun with them, blew a bunch of ISK, but I couldn't get the hang of taking out turrets before they got me, and I wasn't prepared to go so ISK-negative any longer with the 2HKs from rails across the map killing the fun. I could put more ISK into it and possibly get good before ISK ran out, but it was too frustrating trying to figure out how the hell to stay alive. Another consideration: don't you think your logic should also be applied to tanks? Wouldn't that make tanks more expensive than dropships? Base prices last I looked a DS cost more. Maybe I'm wrong on this count. Just some thoughts really.
Lanius Pulvis Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 192	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:43:00 - [17] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Prices should be balanced around ISK destroyed, not the ability to run profitably. CCP should do a simple calculation: total_ISK_of_assets_destroyed_by_dropships / number_of_dropships_killed for the data since 1.7 released. In other words, if dropships are averaging 600K in in suits, tanks, and other dropships per death, then the price should be roughly 600K. If they're only destroying 150K ISK then that's roughly what they should cost. The same is true of tanks. In that case Proto dropsuits would cost more than an ADS...yeah, I'm cool with that. Not new, just new to you.
Lanius Pulvis Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 192	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:49:00 - [18] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: I absolutely hemorrhage ISK flying ADSs, but it's a call I can't ignore, and well worth it, as it keeps me from going permenantly insane and rage quiting. I will probably be at least doubling time spent in the air post 1.8. Yeah, I'm skilled mostly into ADS and I hover around 1-2 mil ISK. It's like crack, soon as I have enough for a fix, I spend it. Dropships, I can't quit you. Not new, just new to you.
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 232	Posted - 2014.03.17 22:20:00 - [19] - Quote when on foot or after mine get's shot down it feels like i'm running in quick sand. i can no longer function outside of mine. what is with the running thru mud effect on ground and i'm min assault FFS checks twice to see if crouched get me the F back in my ship u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Meee One The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 544	Posted - 2014.03.17 22:24:00 - [20] - Quote Skihids wrote: You need a day job to pay for flying. It's the one role that isn't economically viable. You my good sir have obviously never ran as a logi. I game over like a boss.

Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 192	Posted - 2014.03.17 22:32:00 - [21] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: but ads will be spammed and op Instead, rise tanks price to ADS Price and buff a bit ADS HP or Nerf Tanks and leave their price as is and lower ADS price in order to be in line with tanks. You are basing tank price off militia tanks if a player like built a real tank and not one of these noob tanks you would see that tank price is actually higher than ADS but ccp ****** up with the modules like the dumbasses we know they are which is why they are spammed a fully fit tank like mine is 717k isk my fully fit ADS is around 500k so no ADS is not mor expensive than a tank
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 242	Posted - 2014.03.17 22:59:00 - [22] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: but ads will be spammed and op Instead, rise tanks price to ADS Price and buff a bit ADS HP or Nerf Tanks and leave their price as is and lower ADS price in order to be in line with tanks. You are basing tank price off militia tanks if a player like built a real tank and not one of these noob tanks you would see that tank price is actually higher than ADS but ccp ****** up with the modules like the dumbasses we know they are which is why they are spammed a fully fit tank like mine is 717k isk my fully fit ADS is around 500k so no ADS is not mor expensive than a tank Your tank also survives most games. Most dropship pilots don't survive. Oh, and don't forget about us support dropship pilots. The ones who transport troops, scan areas, act as a CRU, all the Good stuff. Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 520	Posted - 2014.03.17 23:04:00 - [23] - Quote NO! Price is perfect. -Pro AFKing LVL 5 -Luck is just one of my skills -Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8336	Posted - 2014.03.17 23:16:00 - [24] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: but ads will be spammed and op Meh some players make the ADS look OP. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8336	Posted - 2014.03.17 23:17:00 - [25] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: but ads will be spammed and op Instead, rise tanks price to ADS Price and buff a bit ADS HP or Nerf Tanks and leave their price as is and lower ADS price in order to be in line with tanks. You are basing tank price off militia tanks if a player like built a real tank and not one of these noob tanks you would see that tank price is actually higher than ADS but ccp ****** up with the modules like the dumbasses we know they are which is why they are spammed a fully fit tank like mine is 717k isk my fully fit ADS is around 500k so no ADS is not mor expensive than a tank Your tank also survives most games. Most dropship pilots don't survive. Oh, and don't forget about us support dropship pilots. The ones who transport troops, scan areas, act as a CRU, all the Good stuff. I do all of that in an HAV as well. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 232	Posted - 2014.03.17 23:24:00 - [26] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: but ads will be spammed and op Instead, rise tanks price to ADS Price and buff a bit ADS HP or Nerf Tanks and leave their price as is and lower ADS price in order to be in line with tanks. You are basing tank price off militia tanks if a player like built a real tank and not one of these noob tanks you would see that tank price is actually higher than ADS but ccp ****** up with the modules like the dumbasses we know they are which is why they are spammed a fully fit tank like mine is 717k isk my fully fit ADS is around 500k so no ADS is not mor expensive than a tank Your tank also survives most games. Most dropship pilots don't survive. Oh, and don't forget about us support dropship pilots. The ones who transport troops, scan areas, act as a CRU, all the Good stuff. i average 3 out of 5 matches i dont get shot down, and play more as a support pilot you mentioned. ADS is fun as hell tho but will bankrupt me if i'm not careful with it. i prefer a good gunner then we have an effect on the match. with my ADS i get a few thrill kills but with gunner we can accomplish more towards victory. my confidence is going up tho so i've ended up calling ADS more lately. it is the essence of speed tanking. when i first came back to flying i was super carefu5l but wreckless and risk taking is much more funner especially when you make some AV run out of ammo and they just decide your not worth the wasted ammo anymore. my biggest issue is not really the isk it's the crappy WP we get 800-1000wp for flying support really well.. then there's always some noob who just stopped playing COD who wants to mention the low score of the pilot like it really matters. if we wanted to we could strap on the RR also and activate our aim assists like those idiots who judge us for our WP. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Patrlck 56 9	Posted - 2014.03.17 23:24:00 - [27] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I realized that they need a price reduction. Running them from time to time, not every match, my wallet was drained from 166mil to 155mil. The slightest love tap on an assault dropship = Boom, no more dropship Rail tanks in praticular destroy you before you can react Even hitting a wall, VERY GENTLY, can often make your dropship explode. And by gently I mean like 0.1m/s collision. I agree. :\|
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 3060	Posted - 2014.03.17 23:35:00 - [28] - Quote Meee One wrote: Skihids wrote: You need a day job to pay for flying. It's the one role that isn't economically viable. You my good sir have obviously never ran as a logi. Actually, that's how I pay for my flying. I think you might be doing it wrong.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12282	Posted - 2014.03.17 23:38:00 - [29] - Quote I'm fine with the price, I just wish the redline didn't exist, and I wish they'd stop buffing the Python by making everything good against Armor Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 3060	Posted - 2014.03.18 00:00:00 - [30] - Quote If you want to base price off average ISK destroyed things are going to get very expensive for HAVs and proto suits. Let's say a tank averages 15 suit kills and 0.5 tank kills (since tanks pretty much only die to tanks). Let's further estimate an average suit price of 40k ISK. That gives us: T = ( 15 x 40k ) + 0.5 T T - 0.5 T = ( 15 x 40k ) 0.5 T = 600k ISK T = 1.2M ISK Hey, that's what tanks used to cost! And I came up with that honestly (no reverse calculations). So there you go MLT HAVs should cost 1.2M ISK again.



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