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BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2091	Posted - 2014.03.17 16:58:00 - [1] - Quote After you fix the terrible AV, jihad jeeps are the only way to AV right now. Edit: You really don't read do you? The emphasis is on terrible AV and posting out that jihad jeeps is the only properly working AV.... For the Federation!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7421	Posted - 2014.03.17 16:59:00 - [2] - Quote No. It's a legitimate tactic. Just like camping in the redline, camping objectives, camping uplinks, camping CRUs, etc. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2091	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:00:00 - [3] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: No. It's a legitimate tactic. Just like camping in the redline, camping objectives, camping uplinks, camping CRUs, etc. You didn't read all of it did ya? For the Federation!
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 251	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:03:00 - [4] - Quote Cry me a river. HTFU is, for once, a sensible statement.
SGT NOVA STAR Ahrendee Mercenaries 222	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:03:00 - [5] - Quote i think its terrible people do that. to care so little about your stats and reputation. lol must be raging hard when you guys have to do that "tactic" but hey, i am a stat geek. VAYU! I CHOOSE YOU!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12257	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:03:00 - [6] - Quote No need to remove them, dropships have been dealing with suicide AV since the dawn of DUST Basically: Tankers need to git gud Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2151	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:04:00 - [7] - Quote As a tanker, I'm perfectly happy with the existence of Jihad Jeeps. As long as AV is gimped. As soon as we get any kind of AV buff... I want them gone. Real men do it with missiles. "True says I have to let Lorhak yell at people in PIE GC from now on."
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 234	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:06:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: No need to remove them, dropships have been dealing with suicide AV since the dawn of DUST Basically: Tankers need to git gud Thank you. I've had times where people ram my Myron with an assault dropship because they can't hit me enough to take me down into armour... and then I get cocky and get shredded by a incubus with a prototype railgun and lvl 5 Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2091	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:07:00 - [9] - Quote Read the edit because apparently some people cannot read >.> For the Federation!
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 616	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:10:00 - [10] - Quote Don't remove Jihad Jeeps. Consider instead to have them self-explode if they exceed a certain speed. That would make it tricky for people to use LAVs with REs because they'd have to carefully control their speed so they wouldn't blow up. It would still let AV players to stick them on tanks without them blowing up straight away though. em ta kool t'nod

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7423	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:10:00 - [11] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: No. It's a legitimate tactic. Just like camping in the redline, camping objectives, camping uplinks, camping CRUs, etc. You didn't read all of it did ya? No, because somehow reading a single-line thread is too hard for me. Yes I did, and my point still stands. EDIT: If your complaint is that Jihad jeeps is the ONLY way to AV at the moment against tanks, then why do you want to remove Jihad Jeeps as an option? Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Sgt Buttscratch Condotta Rouvenor 2064	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:15:00 - [12] - Quote Maybe if tankers had pre 1.7 methods, they would be aware of enemy vehicle drops...but nope, low IQ infantry stomping is the tankers way nowadays. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
ThePrinceOfNigeria Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 361	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:19:00 - [13] - Quote You have offended my GOD! Allah will judge you! JIIIIIIIHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDD!!!! Prepare yur anus!
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1158	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:20:00 - [14] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: After you fix the terrible AV, jihad jeeps are the only way to AV right now. Edit: I realize people cannot read or think outside the box so... The emphasis is on terrible AV and posting out that jihad jeeps is the only properly working AV.... + 1
Skullmiser Vulcansu The Third Day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 23	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:24:00 - [15] - Quote I hate everyone who doesn't read things before replying to them.
SGT NOVA STAR Ahrendee Mercenaries 223	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:35:00 - [16] - Quote I think out of all the 100's of fail suicide jeeps iv destroyed only 3 made it to my tank? but that was when they were new. either way idc if they stay or go. people that drive those are stupid anyway. why be mad bout them? just call another tank lol VAYU! I CHOOSE YOU!
Meee One The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 535	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:37:00 - [17] - Quote Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote: I hate everyone who doesn't read things before replying to them. I agree with whatever you did or did not say. I game over like a boss.
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 518	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:38:00 - [18] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: After you fix the terrible AV, jihad jeeps are the only way to AV right now. Edit: I realize people cannot read or think outside the box so... The emphasis is on terrible AV and posting out that jihad jeeps is the only properly working AV.... There is no reason to remove Jihad jeeps... even after they fix AV. By calling out jihad jeeps, you are stating there their is a bug/Buff/error/etc to either remote explosives or lavs. Fortunately, LAVs are working as intended and remote explosives are working as intended. Jihad jeeps are simply a product of imagination combining two WORKING things and making them GODLIKE. How can I simplify this.... think about it this way: Its like taking ExVeemon and Stingmon and DNA digivolving them into Palidramon... Where Palidramon=Jihad Jeep -Pro AFKing LVL 5 -Luck is just one of my skills -Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12260	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:38:00 - [19] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Edit: I realize people cannot read or think outside the box so... The emphasis is on terrible AV and posting out that jihad jeeps is the only properly working AV.... And I for one am saying even when AV is working, keep them in. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2152	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:44:00 - [20] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: No, because somehow reading a single-line thread is too hard for me. Yes I did, and my point still stands. EDIT: If your complaint is that Jihad jeeps is the ONLY way to AV at the moment against tanks, then why do you want to remove Jihad Jeeps as an option? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that while you may have read it, you didn't pay much attention to what it was you read. BL4CKST4R wrote: After you fix the terrible AV, jihad jeeps are the only way to AV right now... BL4CKST4R wrote: After you fix the terrible AV BL4CKST4R wrote: After you fix the terrible AV I bolded the important bit. Real men do it with missiles. "True says I have to let Lorhak yell at people in PIE GC from now on."

Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1160	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:49:00 - [21] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: After you fix the terrible AV, jihad jeeps are the only way to AV right now. Edit: I realize people cannot read or think outside the box so... The emphasis is on terrible AV and posting out that jihad jeeps is the only properly working AV.... I thought this was another QQ thread. But you say after fixing AV, so here's my honest response. Once AV is fixed, impact should not set off RE's. However, I think drive-and-ditch RE-LAV's should be a thing still. LAV's need to roll a set distance based on the speed they are moving before they come to a stop (like a vehicle would IRL, not this "coast-5-feet-and-stop" crap we have now). This way you can bail out and set off the RE's. It would take timing, aim, speed calculation and a bit of luck to get it right. It would be much more challenging than our current JLAV's, but it would not invalidate the idea altogether. Just my 0.02isk. Thanks for pushing for balance. o7 MAG ~ Raven
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1723	Posted - 2014.03.17 17:52:00 - [22] - Quote It's a legit tactic that takes a lot more talent than standard AV weapons. It's the sort of emergent gameplay CCP tries to foster in a sandbox game. Jihad jeeps aren't going anywhere. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1565	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:07:00 - [23] - Quote Oh, you brought the AV QQers out again. Stop feeding the AV trolls. The TANKOPHOBES. Yeah, they are the anti-semites, race-baiters and nazies all rolled into one. They also, didn't read the part in the 1.7 patch notes about how this is only the beginning of vehicle rebalancing. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Jay Westen Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 116	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:09:00 - [24] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: After you fix the terrible AV, jihad jeeps are the only way to AV right now. Edit: I realize people cannot read or think outside the box so... The emphasis is on terrible AV and posting out that jihad jeeps is the only properly working AV.... After I read the title, I was thinking REALLY you want to gimp my one type of AV?! But no I do agree, after AV is fixed, then yeah Jihad Jeeps can go away. I do think that will happen naturally though, people will revert back to the real AV ways, except a few hold outs. However I do like the portion that Soraya said, it's a sort of adaptation to AV, since ours essentially got ravaged. A problem was proposed we found an, albeit dirty, solution.
DootDoot Da Short Buss 273	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:13:00 - [25] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: After you fix the terrible AV, jihad jeeps are the only way to AV right now. Edit: I realize people cannot read or think outside the box so... The emphasis is on terrible AV and posting out that jihad jeeps is the only properly working AV.... Jihad jeeps are effective.. even in real life.... Now imagine being an Immortal clone soldier.. They are the best un intentional mechanic DUST 514 has ever had... It's DUST 514's jetcan mining...
VonSpliff TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 74	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:21:00 - [26] - Quote I absolutely love the jlav. Only the tankers cry and 50% of the a-hole crying about are the same sh!tbums that we're running over everyone in the murder taxi days. If you can plant REs and successfully tank out a tank, more power to ya. F-ing tanker. Bunch of whiners with clean boots. **** off no one wants you anyway. FYI not a jhiad driver. I throw nades. So let's post keeping 3 av nades. "It never got weird enough for me." Dr. T
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7428	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:33:00 - [27] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I bolded the important bit. You lost me still. The title of this thread suggests that the OP just wants the Jihad Jeeps to be removed in general even after fixing AV. Even after AV is fixed (ie: swarm launchers, forge guns, plasma cannons, AV grenades, etc.), Jihad Jeeps should remain as an available option. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
howard sanchez Sanchez Cartage llc 874	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:42:00 - [28] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: After you fix the terrible AV, jihad jeeps are the only way to AV right now. Edit: I realize people cannot read or think outside the box so... The emphasis is on terrible AV and posting out that jihad jeeps is the only properly working AV.... Bla4ckst4r, Lorhak, Godin and any other tanker who wants to cry on the DUST forums about JLAVs: The greater Dust community takes great pride in the following suggestion - HTFU To suggest that the very use of JLAVs is anything other than out of the box thinking clearly demonstrates your ignorance and shortsightedness. Not to mention your penchant for selfish unfair play that is only ever questioned when someone ups your ante It is RoShamBo people. The game is fundamentally unbalanced - just like real life. If you bring Paper I can bring Scissors, if you bring Rock I can bring JLAV. Don't like it? HTFU
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 824	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:46:00 - [29] - Quote Jeeps with explosives aren't that big of a problem, IMO, because... In the few hundred hours I've spent in a tank since their introduction, I've yet to be killed by the first one. I was chased by one, once. I sped away, swiveled my turret, and blew it sky high. I honestly don't understand all the QQ in this regard.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2093	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:57:00 - [30] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I bolded the important bit. You lost me still. The title of this thread suggests that the OP just wants the Jihad Jeeps to be removed in general even after fixing AV. Even after AV is fixed (ie: swarm launchers, forge guns, plasma cannons, AV grenades, etc.), Jihad Jeeps should remain as an available option. It does suggest that but I like the tactic. I just wanted to bring emphasis to the fact that only the the jihad works, everything else sucks; it shouldn't be removed because it shows how far we will go to achieve a goal. For the Federation!

BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2093	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:58:00 - [31] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: After you fix the terrible AV, jihad jeeps are the only way to AV right now. Edit: I realize people cannot read or think outside the box so... The emphasis is on terrible AV and posting out that jihad jeeps is the only properly working AV.... Bla4ckst4r, Lorhak, Godin and any other tanker who wants to cry on the DUST forums about JLAVs: The greater Dust community takes great pride in the following suggestion - HTFU To suggest that the very use of JLAVs is anything other than out of the box thinking clearly demonstrates your ignorance and shortsightedness. Not to mention your penchant for selfish unfair play that is only ever questioned when someone ups your ante It is RoShamBo people. The game is fundamentally unbalanced - just like real life. If you bring Paper I can bring Scissors, if you bring Rock I can bring JLAV. Don't like it? HTFU I don't even... For the Federation!
Goric Rumis Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 372	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:58:00 - [32] - Quote I think if you improve AV the suicide LAVs will dwindle, but we should leave them as a sandbox option. They're not overpowered, and the unpredictability keeps things interesting and keeps you on your toes. (I personally want battles to be less predictable than they are right now. Removing options makes it more predictable.) The bigger problem I have with LAVs is that they don't take damage or speed loss when ramming infantry. I appreciate that road kill is a legitimate tactic at high speeds, but impact should have effect on a LAV, if only to reduce speed and prevent you from road-killing multiple infantry in one pass. It's true that this really affects only a handful of situations. But at least the road-killing LAVs are low-risk relative to the damage they're causing, while suicide LAVs are guaranteed loss for a relatively low level of success. The Tank Balancing Factor No One Is Discussing
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7431	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:11:00 - [33] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I bolded the important bit. You lost me still. The title of this thread suggests that the OP just wants the Jihad Jeeps to be removed in general even after fixing AV. Even after AV is fixed (ie: swarm launchers, forge guns, plasma cannons, AV grenades, etc.), Jihad Jeeps should remain as an available option. It does suggest that but I like the tactic. I just wanted to bring emphasis to the fact that only the the jihad works, everything else sucks; it shouldn't be removed because it shows how far we will go to achieve a goal. Then WHY did you give your thread a title that highly suggests you want Jihad Jeeps removed? Wouldn't it have been better to give it a name that implies more about what you really mean? That way you and I wouldn't be having this silly discussion. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
VonSpliff TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 79	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:13:00 - [34] - Quote Everything should have speed loss when hit by something. If any av hits a tank they shouldn't be able to speed off. Durpships lose control, so the other vehicles need the same hurdle. "It never got weird enough for me." Dr. T
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4677	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:13:00 - [35] - Quote No. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
Reallusion GrimSleeper Need Permission to Die LLC 20	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:15:00 - [36] - Quote Goric Rumis wrote: The bigger problem I have with LAVs is that they don't take damage or speed loss when ramming infantry. I appreciate that road kill is a legitimate tactic at high speeds, but impact should have effect on a LAV, if only to reduce speed and prevent you from road-killing multiple infantry in one pass. I dunno... I kinda like bowling with a JEEP! :-) It's lovely when people are all grouped up or almost in formation and you come from behind or the side and smash 3 or 4 of them, lol. In real life, cars generally can hit people and keep going full speed if they don't let off the gas... I don't see why it should be much difference here. Only exception to this in my opinion should be heavy suits... maybe that should slow it down a bit, but not tremendously enough that they cease to move. Maybe 15% drop in speed or something, but allow it to accelerate back quickly enough that 2 or 3 seconds of accelerating will get them back to max speed. What would be more interesting is if it kind of rolled over them and threw the wheels off a bit so you don't know where you will go and must fight to keep control. THAT would be kinda cool. Join the revolution... change the future.
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 270	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:26:00 - [37] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I bolded the important bit. You lost me still. The title of this thread suggests that the OP just wants the Jihad Jeeps to be removed in general even after fixing AV. Even after AV is fixed (ie: swarm launchers, forge guns, plasma cannons, AV grenades, etc.), Jihad Jeeps should remain as an available option. It does suggest that but I like the tactic. I just wanted to bring emphasis to the fact that only the the jihad works, everything else sucks; it shouldn't be removed because it shows how far we will go to achieve a goal. Then WHY did you give your thread a title that highly suggests you want Jihad Jeeps removed? Wouldn't it have been better to give it a name that implies more about what you really mean? That way you and I wouldn't be having this silly discussion. Highly suggests? It says nothing else lol. Not sure I really understand the confusion except the OP's apparently uncertain statements of what he wants. Not sure why he felt the need to edit his post and suggest ppl don't read..... ...yeah, I'd have said, "when you buff broken AV, remove JJs". That would've been clear. But that's me.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1794	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:04:00 - [38] - Quote I read it. I like the Jhad Jeep, and I want it to stay, even after AV gets fixed. I ain't got time for dat sh!t
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8322	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:15:00 - [39] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: After you fix the terrible AV, jihad jeeps are the only way to AV right now. Edit: I realize people cannot read or think outside the box so... The emphasis is on terrible AV and posting out that jihad jeeps is the only properly working AV.... Edit2: this is not tanker QQ I am a dropship pilot why would I defend my enemy :( So would I but AV doesnt need a huge buff. If you want to make short term buffs then minimalistic changes need to be made fo AV damage modules to make them competitive. This does not mean they need huge increases. Most changes need to occur on the part of the HAV. Eventually AV numbers have to stabilise, after which HAV and vehicles can be balanced around AV, not AV balanced around 1 vehicle frame which we know is supposed to the heaviest and most durable. Considering our light vehicles both ground and air based HAV is still sitting in a place where a skilled AVer can solo a light (LAV) or Mid frame (Dropship) vehicle. This I feel is a safe place to sit. I want AV to be competitive as well, I miss feeling vulnerable. AV numbers eventually have to stabilise and I feel it would be better to see HAV units as the durable high ISK and skill intensive units they are (although the 1.7 HAV are pretty unbalanced) instead of units everyone and their mother can spam, solo, etc. Make no mistake I dont particularly like the HAV dynamic of 1.7 Rail > than everything. Redline = invincibility. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
Quill Killian Better Hide R Die 288	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:23:00 - [40] - Quote Jihadi jeeps in Dust 514 and jihadi dirtbikes in BF4. Life is (in)glorious for tankers in either game.

Charlotte O'Dell Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors 2178	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:43:00 - [41] - Quote No. Fix the redline. Tanks in play are not too hard to kill. Red liners are only weak vs JLAVs and glass cannons Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7436	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:58:00 - [42] - Quote Please see Judge Rhadamanthus' YouTube videos on how to see the real issues behind vehicles and AV. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1878	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:08:00 - [43] - Quote Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote: I hate everyone who doesn't read things before replying to them. So you hate everyone in my thread? lol 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1878	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:10:00 - [44] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Please see Judge Rhadamanthus' YouTube videos on how to see the real issues behind vehicles and AV. All he talks about is Dropships, and wants to just nerf HAV's. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7438	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:30:00 - [45] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Please see Judge Rhadamanthus' YouTube videos on how to see the real issues behind vehicles and AV. All he talks about is Dropships, and wants to just nerf HAV's. Which nerf are you talking about? The kind of nerf that makes anything absolutely useless or the nerf meant to make something retain its competitiveness but not be overpowering anymore? Looking at Judge's videos, he's talking about the latter. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 452	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:43:00 - [46] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: After you fix the terrible AV, jihad jeeps are the only way to AV right now. Edit: I realize people cannot read or think outside the box so... The emphasis is on terrible AV and posting out that jihad jeeps is the only properly working AV.... Edit2: this is not tanker QQ I am a dropship pilot why would I defend my enemy :( Really bad choice of title and wording that muddle the actual point you're trying to convey. I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 176	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:46:00 - [47] - Quote NO! This game need more vehicles! dangCCPyou'reslowpickupthepace
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1878	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:48:00 - [48] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Please see Judge Rhadamanthus' YouTube videos on how to see the real issues behind vehicles and AV. All he talks about is Dropships, and wants to just nerf HAV's. Which nerf are you talking about? The kind of nerf that makes anything absolutely useless or the nerf meant to make something retain its competitiveness but not be overpowering anymore? Looking at Judge's videos, he's talking about the latter. I remember him saying that it should take 2-3 shots from a AIFG to kill a hardened HAV, similar to a DS, and I loled at him and left the channel. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1878	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:49:00 - [49] - Quote nm 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-


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