DUST Search - And when do us vehicleers get our pilot suits?

Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:

Harpyja wrote:

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Prob at the same time when we get adv/proto hulls

Well then, have fun waiting forever because with tiercide, there is no such thing as proto hulls.

Vehicles are very obviously tiercided.

While infantry is not and neither is weapons and mods

Yea adv/proto hulls so balance can be achieved

And also to get rid of the scrub tankers that are causing tank spam.

Proto AV should be balanced against proto vehicles.

I cannot agree with this. I pointed out why in the last thread this came up in. Which was about six hours ago.

I also cannot agree even that a pilot suit should exist.

Essentially you'd be doubling the sink an effective vehicle, because unless something drastic happened, like as in you can't drive a vehicle aside from LAVs without a pilot suit, the only reason for a suit like this would be to amplify a vehicle's effectiveness by adding modules to the suit.
Which is more SP sink.

Essentially, by asking for a pilot suit, you're implying that you want under no circumstances that vehicles should be viable without one.

Which is some crazy elitist BS.

PRO AV has to be balanced around STD tanks, which cannot have sinks of tens of millions of SP to be effective and capable of surviving, and any variant vehicles must make significant sacrifices in the name of their chosen effectiveness.

i.e. Enforcers for larger DPS, lesser mobility and poor tank, Marauders for larger tank, lesser DPS and poor mobility and say Black Ops (which is a silly name IMO) for larger mobility, lesser tank and poor DPS.

There should be no way to have an objectively better vehicle than the next scrub simply by spending more money on a better hull. Sacrifices in the name of turrets I can deal with (try to fit a Particle Madrugar - it's a right royal pain) but something that's a Madrugar +two lows and double the fitting, in the way of dropsuits?

That's a good way to keep tanks out of the hands of anyone but the people who already have buckets of SP, and ISK to practice.

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Foxhound Elite The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 658	Posted - 2014.03.16 12:51:00 - [1] - Quote Just wondering... Python pilot, troop-transport specialist and an all-round ballbag.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11178	Posted - 2014.03.16 12:59:00 - [2] - Quote SoonTM. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7422	Posted - 2014.03.16 12:59:00 - [3] - Quote As soon as tanks get nerfed. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 319	Posted - 2014.03.16 13:01:00 - [4] - Quote To do what ? Buff vehicles even more ? Should AVers simply lay down their arms and give up any remaining isk in their already cash strapped wallets ? No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
Sgt Buttscratch Condotta Rouvenor 2048	Posted - 2014.03.16 13:07:00 - [5] - Quote godtank aint good enough for the pussies eh? I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 587	Posted - 2014.03.16 13:11:00 - [6] - Quote once tanks are balanced and fot those thinking its gona be OP think about the amout os sp needed to do so, if enything they desrve it ( not tanks) "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3009	Posted - 2014.03.16 13:30:00 - [7] - Quote Prob at the same time when we get adv/proto hulls Intelligence is OP
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7424	Posted - 2014.03.16 14:02:00 - [8] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Prob at the same time when we get adv/proto hulls Well then, have fun waiting forever because with tiercide, there is no such thing as proto hulls. Vehicles are very obviously tiercided. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3009	Posted - 2014.03.16 14:08:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Prob at the same time when we get adv/proto hulls Well then, have fun waiting forever because with tiercide, there is no such thing as proto hulls. Vehicles are very obviously tiercided. While infantry is not and neither is weapons and mods Yea adv/proto hulls so balance can be achieved Intelligence is OP
CRYPT3C W0LF Auraxis Special Forces 447	Posted - 2014.03.16 14:08:00 - [10] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: To do what ? Buff vehicles even more ? Should AVers simply lay down their arms and give up any remaining isk in their already cash strapped wallets ? Yes :) Cloak Engaged~ Can I Haz A Cheezburger? SlayerScout, I feast on you're Proto Remains!:)

Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1279	Posted - 2014.03.16 14:10:00 - [11] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Prob at the same time when we get adv/proto hulls Well then, have fun waiting forever because with tiercide, there is no such thing as proto hulls. Vehicles are very obviously tiercided. While infantry is not and neither is weapons and mods Yea adv/proto hulls so balance can be achieved And also to get rid of the scrub tankers that are causing tank spam. Proto AV should be balanced against proto vehicles. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3010	Posted - 2014.03.16 14:23:00 - [12] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Prob at the same time when we get adv/proto hulls Well then, have fun waiting forever because with tiercide, there is no such thing as proto hulls. Vehicles are very obviously tiercided. While infantry is not and neither is weapons and mods Yea adv/proto hulls so balance can be achieved And also to get rid of the scrub tankers that are causing tank spam. Proto AV should be balanced against proto vehicles. MLT tanks dont even bother me no more, gives me stuff to shoot at but yea the ability to use a proto HAV would be very nice Intelligence is OP
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 170	Posted - 2014.03.16 14:30:00 - [13] - Quote Pilot suits should do more than just give vehicles a buff. Just saying... This game need more vehicles! dangCCPyou'reslowpickupthepace
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2119	Posted - 2014.03.16 14:32:00 - [14] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Prob at the same time when we get adv/proto hulls Well then, have fun waiting forever because with tiercide, there is no such thing as proto hulls. Vehicles are very obviously tiercided. While infantry is not and neither is weapons and mods Yea adv/proto hulls so balance can be achieved And also to get rid of the scrub tankers that are causing tank spam. Proto AV should be balanced against proto vehicles. I cannot agree with this. I pointed out why in the last thread this came up in. Which was about six hours ago. I also cannot agree even that a pilot suit should exist. Essentially you'd be doubling the sink an effective vehicle, because unless something drastic happened, like as in you can't drive a vehicle aside from LAVs without a pilot suit, the only reason for a suit like this would be to amplify a vehicle's effectiveness by adding modules to the suit. Which is more SP sink. Essentially, by asking for a pilot suit, you're implying that you want under no circumstances that vehicles should be viable without one. Which is some crazy elitist BS. PRO AV has to be balanced around STD tanks, which cannot have sinks of tens of millions of SP to be effective and capable of surviving, and any variant vehicles must make significant sacrifices in the name of their chosen effectiveness. i.e. Enforcers for larger DPS, lesser mobility and poor tank, Marauders for larger tank, lesser DPS and poor mobility and say Black Ops (which is a silly name IMO) for larger mobility, lesser tank and poor DPS. There should be no way to have an objectively better vehicle than the next scrub simply by spending more money on a better hull. Sacrifices in the name of turrets I can deal with (try to fit a Particle Madrugar - it's a right royal pain) but something that's a Madrugar +two lows and double the fitting, in the way of dropsuits? That's a good way to keep tanks out of the hands of anyone but the people who already have buckets of SP, and ISK to practice. Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE Forum Warrior Level Two. (GëºGêçGëª)/
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 743	Posted - 2014.03.16 14:36:00 - [15] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Prob at the same time when we get adv/proto hulls Well then, have fun waiting forever because with tiercide, there is no such thing as proto hulls. Vehicles are very obviously tiercided. While infantry is not and neither is weapons and mods Yea adv/proto hulls so balance can be achieved Nah tiercide for Infantry would be better and would solve more problems
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 743	Posted - 2014.03.16 14:41:00 - [16] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: PRO AV has to be balanced around STD tanks, which cannot have sinks of tens of millions of SP to be effective and capable of surviving, and any variant vehicles must make significant sacrifices in the name of their chosen effectiveness. So can explain what infantry should use to beat proto hulls when proto AV is just able to beat std hulls? I just curious on your balance opinion towards this topic. In all honesty CCP should finally realize that they need to get rid of tiers in the current way these tiers are either not worth the effort but balanced or horribly balanced against lower tiers....
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3010	Posted - 2014.03.16 14:45:00 - [17] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Harpyja wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Prob at the same time when we get adv/proto hulls Well then, have fun waiting forever because with tiercide, there is no such thing as proto hulls. Vehicles are very obviously tiercided. While infantry is not and neither is weapons and mods Yea adv/proto hulls so balance can be achieved And also to get rid of the scrub tankers that are causing tank spam. Proto AV should be balanced against proto vehicles. I cannot agree with this. I pointed out why in the last thread this came up in. Which was about six hours ago. I also cannot agree even that a pilot suit should exist. Essentially you'd be doubling the sink an effective vehicle, because unless something drastic happened, like as in you can't drive a vehicle aside from LAVs without a pilot suit, the only reason for a suit like this would be to amplify a vehicle's effectiveness by adding modules to the suit. Which is more SP sink. Essentially, by asking for a pilot suit, you're implying that you want under no circumstances that vehicles should be viable without one. Which is some crazy elitist BS. PRO AV has to be balanced around STD tanks, which cannot have sinks of tens of millions of SP to be effective and capable of surviving, and any variant vehicles must make significant sacrifices in the name of their chosen effectiveness. i.e. Enforcers for larger DPS, lesser mobility and poor tank, Marauders for larger tank, lesser DPS and poor mobility and say Black Ops (which is a silly name IMO) for larger mobility, lesser tank and poor DPS. There should be no way to have an objectively better vehicle than the next scrub simply by spending more money on a better hull. Sacrifices in the name of turrets I can deal with (try to fit a Particle Madrugar - it's a right royal pain) but something that's a Madrugar +two lows and double the fitting, in the way of dropsuits? That's a good way to keep tanks out of the hands of anyone but the people who already have buckets of SP, and ISK to practice. SP sink got doubled by CCP with the whole changing of the vehicle tree anyways even tho we have less skills and mods but more sp sinks Also a pilot suit to use any vehicle apart from a LAV would be fine PRO AV cannot be balanced with STD tanks because right now it is and they are crying, we have tiercide now and they are crying about having to use proto AV against STD vehicles If we get adv/proto hulls then we can balance proto AV with it Intelligence is OP
C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 545	Posted - 2014.03.16 14:50:00 - [18] - Quote Can someone please tell me what a pilot suit will do that any other suit cant? WTF is the point of a pilot suit? // Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
Western Ways Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 32	Posted - 2014.03.16 14:56:00 - [19] - Quote My guess is, it'll make it so that you can only use certain weapons and/or modules if you have a pilot suit. Similar to how you can only use a forge gun or an hmg with a heavy suit.
C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 545	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:00:00 - [20] - Quote Western Ways wrote: My guess is, it'll make it so that you can only use certain weapons and/or modules if you have a pilot suit. Similar to how you can only use a forge gun or an hmg with a heavy suit. So it would restrict your ground combat? Bravo! The suits useless! Also so is the idea, its a piece of crap, pilot suits would add nothing to this game. // Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //

Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1383	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:03:00 - [21] - Quote Foxhound Elite wrote: Just wondering... Once tanks are balanced So they can nerf them and associated modules In order to give the pilot suits a use that doesn't make their vehicles OP. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Sgt Buttscratch Condotta Rouvenor 2051	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:04:00 - [22] - Quote why do you need a suit, the idea of tanking is: Run OP MLT tank use BPO dropsuit Destroy protos with no effort Profit I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3010	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:07:00 - [23] - Quote C Saunders wrote: Western Ways wrote: My guess is, it'll make it so that you can only use certain weapons and/or modules if you have a pilot suit. Similar to how you can only use a forge gun or an hmg with a heavy suit. So it would restrict your ground combat? Bravo! The suits useless! Also so is the idea, its a piece of crap, pilot suits would add nothing to this game. Pilot suit is for ya know piloting things like vehicles Its not ment to ground pound and there is other playstyles than medium frame 514 Intelligence is OP
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1279	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:13:00 - [24] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Harpyja wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Prob at the same time when we get adv/proto hulls Well then, have fun waiting forever because with tiercide, there is no such thing as proto hulls. Vehicles are very obviously tiercided. While infantry is not and neither is weapons and mods Yea adv/proto hulls so balance can be achieved And also to get rid of the scrub tankers that are causing tank spam. Proto AV should be balanced against proto vehicles. I cannot agree with this. I pointed out why in the last thread this came up in. Which was about six hours ago. I also cannot agree even that a pilot suit should exist. Essentially you'd be doubling the sink an effective vehicle, because unless something drastic happened, like as in you can't drive a vehicle aside from LAVs without a pilot suit, the only reason for a suit like this would be to amplify a vehicle's effectiveness by adding modules to the suit. Which is more SP sink. Essentially, by asking for a pilot suit, you're implying that you want under no circumstances that vehicles should be viable without one. Which is some crazy elitist BS. PRO AV has to be balanced around STD tanks, which cannot have sinks of tens of millions of SP to be effective and capable of surviving, and any variant vehicles must make significant sacrifices in the name of their chosen effectiveness. i.e. Enforcers for larger DPS, lesser mobility and poor tank, Marauders for larger tank, lesser DPS and poor mobility and say Black Ops (which is a silly name IMO) for larger mobility, lesser tank and poor DPS. There should be no way to have an objectively better vehicle than the next scrub simply by spending more money on a better hull. Sacrifices in the name of turrets I can deal with (try to fit a Particle Madrugar - it's a right royal pain) but something that's a Madrugar +two lows and double the fitting, in the way of dropsuits? That's a good way to keep tanks out of the hands of anyone but the people who already have buckets of SP, and ISK to practice. As I had mentioned before, if ISK is such a problem, then just make the proto hull cheap! Like no more than 400k ISK. ISK should not win battles; this I agree with. But there's a problem when dedication is barely rewarded. Do you think that all these 0 SP "tankers" deserve such powerful vehicles that cost 75k and are much better than a proto dropsuit? No! With 0 SP, they should be just as squishy as a militia dropsuit compared to a max skilled proto suit. Also, I'm on the fence about pilot suits so I have no opinion on them. But as far as AV vs vehicle balance goes, you can't balance tiers versus no tiers. Either both sides need to be tiered or neither side gets tiers. AV gets a 50% damage increase from standard to proto, while tanks are currently as if they were proto tanks, all of them (militia tanks being ADV with PRO modules). So now you have the problem where only proto AV has a chance at killing tanks while anything that's not proto is useless. I don't see CCP performing tiericide on infantry, so AV is stuck with tiered progression while vehicles are at a default proto status. I can see these current attributes as proto tanks, and with a small buff to AV, proto AV can kill proto tanks. Then you got ADV AV that can kill ADV tanks, and so on. TL;DR you can't achieve balance when one side is tiered and the other isn't. This effectively means that one side (AV) needs to invest SP to get 50% more damage while the other (tanks) don't need any SP to become effective slaughtering machines. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2357	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:14:00 - [25] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: PRO AV has to be balanced around STD tanks, which cannot have sinks of tens of millions of SP to be effective and capable of surviving, and any variant vehicles must make significant sacrifices in the name of their chosen effectiveness. So can explain what infantry should use to beat proto hulls when proto AV is just able to beat std hulls? I just curious on your balance opinion towards this topic. In all honesty CCP should finally realize that they need to get rid of tiers in the current way these tiers are either not worth the effort but balanced or horribly balanced against lower tiers.... Just curious... what is the point of isk when you implement tiericide? They did tiericide tanks... and you know what you got? Tank spam... cause its proto power at a MLT price. I no longer believe tiericide is the way to go, it pretty much invalidates any use for isk... a major point to this game.
C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 545	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:17:00 - [26] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: C Saunders wrote: Western Ways wrote: My guess is, it'll make it so that you can only use certain weapons and/or modules if you have a pilot suit. Similar to how you can only use a forge gun or an hmg with a heavy suit. So it would restrict your ground combat? Bravo! The suits useless! Also so is the idea, its a piece of crap, pilot suits would add nothing to this game. Pilot suit is for ya know piloting things like vehicles Its not ment to ground pound and there is other playstyles than medium frame 514 I run a scout. Please do tell me how the pilot suit will bonus vehicles in a way that the passive skills already dont? // Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3010	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:31:00 - [27] - Quote C Saunders wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: C Saunders wrote: Western Ways wrote: My guess is, it'll make it so that you can only use certain weapons and/or modules if you have a pilot suit. Similar to how you can only use a forge gun or an hmg with a heavy suit. So it would restrict your ground combat? Bravo! The suits useless! Also so is the idea, its a piece of crap, pilot suits would add nothing to this game. Pilot suit is for ya know piloting things like vehicles Its not ment to ground pound and there is other playstyles than medium frame 514 I run a scout. Please do tell me how the pilot suit will bonus vehicles in a way that the passive skills already dont? Sacrfices ground ability to perform better in vehicles by enhancing the vehicle in a number of ways which we dont know about Intelligence is OP
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 249	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:54:00 - [28] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: To do what ? Buff vehicles even more ? Should AVers simply lay down their arms and give up any remaining isk in their already cash strapped wallets ? To prevent people from driving tanks with heavies and FGs/RRs. The pilot suit will balance out tanks by allowing you to RE them with impunity. It's a nerf to the brokenness of having a counter to your counter inside of your vehicle. Edit: ZDub 303 is completely right. Tiericide is just a buzzword. We don't need to remove tiers. We need to rethink them. Keep the tiers, but make their roles more defined. Less "slightly better" and more "harder to handle, but a harder hit".
C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 545	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:56:00 - [29] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: C Saunders wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: C Saunders wrote: Western Ways wrote: My guess is, it'll make it so that you can only use certain weapons and/or modules if you have a pilot suit. Similar to how you can only use a forge gun or an hmg with a heavy suit. So it would restrict your ground combat? Bravo! The suits useless! Also so is the idea, its a piece of crap, pilot suits would add nothing to this game. Pilot suit is for ya know piloting things like vehicles Its not ment to ground pound and there is other playstyles than medium frame 514 I run a scout. Please do tell me how the pilot suit will bonus vehicles in a way that the passive skills already dont? Sacrfices ground ability to perform better in vehicles by enhancing the vehicle in a number of ways which we dont know about Please, enlighten me on what can be enhanced? // Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3010	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:59:00 - [30] - Quote C Saunders wrote: Please, enlighten me on what can be enhanced? Everything CPU/PG/HP/Speed/DMG/resistance etc Intelligence is OP

ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2359	Posted - 2014.03.16 17:34:00 - [31] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: C Saunders wrote: Please, enlighten me on what can be enhanced? Everything CPU/PG/HP/Speed/DMG/resistance etc To add: Turret rotation, reload speed, torque, we could add scan profile and scan precision to tanks as additional stats. Shield recharge rate, delay, and the minimum damage before shields stop recharging. As another person said, it would make a lot of sense to have anything outside of LAVs require a pilot suit to pilot as well. As a balance factor, you couldnt just use a heavy suit in a tank and hop out and gun things down.
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 965	Posted - 2014.03.16 17:58:00 - [32] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: To do what ? Buff vehicles even more ? Should AVers simply lay down their arms and give up any remaining isk in their already cash strapped wallets ? Hurts to be on the other side doesn't it? Av gets to pay for all those dropships I lost before 1.7 to bs. I cursed av to feel as I felt, I'm glad that you posted this. Anyway foxhound, I think vehicles should be tiered, get adv and proto vehicles and then we have a reason to implement pilot suits, otherwise there isn't much of a point.
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 313	Posted - 2014.03.16 18:26:00 - [33] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: C Saunders wrote: Please, enlighten me on what can be enhanced? Everything CPU/PG/HP/Speed/DMG/resistance etc Everything that both you, and Zdub, mention would be better accomplished with a more defined Skill Tree. If the Vehicle/Turret Skill Tree matched the Dropsuit/Weapon Skill Trees, Vehicle user would have their bonuses and Militia HAV's could be made much weaker. The other, more racially aligned, bonuses that vehicle users want could be accomplished by attaching them the T2 hulls; like the Enforcers and Marauders.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1691	Posted - 2014.03.16 18:27:00 - [34] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: As soon as tanks get nerfed. This.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2434	Posted - 2014.03.16 18:36:00 - [35] - Quote Foxhound Elite wrote: Just wondering... Fox you do know that when pilot suits gets added all modules will be nerfbatted? Its a new method from CCP. Add something that gives bonuses but nerf the affected equipment/module so hard that it performs just like before the nerf when wearing the suit. Which means you will need to dump ~2.7 million SP into a suit just so that your dropship performs like it does now or worse. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5783	Posted - 2014.03.16 19:35:00 - [36] - Quote They most likely wouldn't be released until we have all of the racial vehicles added in as well. However the introduction of a pilot suit would almost guarantee a vehicle module nerf across the board, similar to how they did things with the Logistics class. Though I wouldn't put introduce them in the first place. There's no need for them. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5784	Posted - 2014.03.16 19:40:00 - [37] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Hurts to be on the other side doesn't it? Av gets to pay for all those dropships I lost before 1.7 to bs. I cursed av to feel as I felt, I'm glad that you posted this. Anyway foxhound, I think vehicles should be tiered, get adv and proto vehicles and then we have a reason to implement pilot suits, otherwise there isn't much of a point. All while my Particle Cannon forces your restock bills :) I wonder what you guys will cry about next. >.> AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND


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