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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5715	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:16:00 - [1] - Quote I see how you like to tell the new players to "HTFU" and adapt your tactics because it's supposedly easy to kill you, so why not prove it? My challenge, is to run a completely new character for the period of 1 month, and then post your stats. Since it's relatively easy to kill "Protobears" with teamwork, this should be a cakewalk. However to simulate the NPE, you are not allowed to transfer ISK into the new character, nor are you allowed to run with a squad of players wearing PRO gear themselves. If your up for it, then why not eh? -HAND AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Cheydinhal Guard CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 19	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:23:00 - [2] - Quote Come on atiim, you already know that protobears only like EZ mode and they won't take you up on your offer. "1.8 is gonna be filled with fat suits and invisible stick men" - Echo 1991
Proto Annihilator Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 145	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:28:00 - [3] - Quote Atiim wrote: I see how you like to tell the new players to "HTFU" and adapt your tactics because it's supposedly easy to kill you, so why not prove it? My challenge, is to run a completely new character for the period of 1 month, and then post your stats. Since it's relatively easy to kill "Protobears" with teamwork, this should be a cakewalk. However to simulate the NPE, you are not allowed to transfer ISK into the new character, nor are you allowed to run with a squad of players wearing PRO gear themselves. If your up for it, then why not eh? -HAND It's the story of my life, literally. I do alright. I have a better KD than my main on most of my alts. Skirmish used to only record deaths.
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 307	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:31:00 - [4] - Quote I'm a stompee more than a stomper but I've now got enough SP and experience that I can do alright but for the event I ran a new character and it is tough. I'm running into suits that I can literally empty my entire AR rifle magazine into and a good part of my SMG and they will still be walking. I snuck up on a sniper last night and at point blank range did exactly that and didn't manage to kill him. There are good proto players out there who could manage to do ok probably, but most overestimate how much their skill is involved in their score and underestimate how much the SP they have sunk does. I did. Because, that's why.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1556	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:31:00 - [5] - Quote The real protobears won't listen because they all speak Chinese and are amassing funds for one thing GÇö an open market and the ability to trade resl money for fake. They are called Chinese isk farmers and EVE is riddled with them. How many people on this forum are aware of a little thing in EVE called bot mining? A person will box several accounts or use a bot program to control several mining ships in high sec and just send them back and forth auto mining to sell for isk. It is coming ppl. Bots. If we don't already have them, we will. That is probably the main reason CCP wanted to put this game on the PS3. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1364	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:33:00 - [6] - Quote Atiim wrote: I see how you like to tell the new players to "HTFU" and adapt your tactics because it's supposedly easy to kill you, so why not prove it? My challenge, is to run a completely new character for the period of 1 month, and then post your stats. Since it's relatively easy to kill "Protobears" with teamwork, this should be a cakewalk. However to simulate the NPE, you are not allowed to transfer ISK into the new character, nor are you allowed to run with a squad of players wearing PRO gear themselves. If your up for it, then why not eh? -HAND I don't need to do such. My KD speaks for itself "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Proto Annihilator Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 145	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:35:00 - [7] - Quote The tools new guys should focus on are combat rifle, rail rifle, mlt tanks. Until you learn the game these give you a huge advantage.
Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 518	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:37:00 - [8] - Quote Im not a protostomper but ill do it. I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5720	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:38:00 - [9] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: The tools new guys should focus on are combat rifle, rail rifle, mlt tanks. Until you learn the game these give you a huge advantage. That reminds me, new players wouldn't spam MLT HAVs, so that wouldn't be properly simulating the NPE. Good call. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 506	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:38:00 - [10] - Quote Pay me ISK and I will do it. Thanks CCP Foxfour

Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 67	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:38:00 - [11] - Quote remember to run only nova knives (no other weapon) on a min scout See how much you like protostompers then Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 763	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:39:00 - [12] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: The real protobears won't listen because they all speak Chinese and are amassing funds for one thing GÇö an open market and the ability to trade resl money for fake. They are called Chinese isk farmers and EVE is riddled with them. How many people on this forum are aware of a little thing in EVE called bot mining? A person will box several accounts or use a bot program to control several mining ships in high sec and just send them back and forth auto mining to sell for isk. It is coming ppl. Bots. If we don't already have them, we will. That is probably the main reason CCP wanted to put this game on the PS3. folks that do that, need to get a life.
safura trotsky Kill Mode Activated Galactic Skyfleet Empire 41	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:39:00 - [13] - Quote honestly not that hard if you are good with AR....all i run on my other character is starter suits and i F*ck shyt up Thanks for picking me up blueberry!...and again...and again...STAHP!!!
Proto Annihilator Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 146	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:42:00 - [14] - Quote Atiim wrote: Proto Annihilator wrote: The tools new guys should focus on are combat rifle, rail rifle, mlt tanks. Until you learn the game these give you a huge advantage. That reminds me, new players wouldn't spam MLT HAVs, so that wouldn't be properly simulating the NPE. Good call. they should. The power of tanker tears is a game changer. They deserve the sica rail.
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 28	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:42:00 - [15] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: The real protobears won't listen because they all speak Chinese and are amassing funds for one thing GÇö an open market and the ability to trade resl money for fake. They are called Chinese isk farmers and EVE is riddled with them. . Reminded me of this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buyUoGJVZFM (@1:43)
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5720	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:44:00 - [16] - Quote safura trotsky wrote: honestly not that hard if you are good with AR....all i run on my other character is starter suits and i F*ck shyt up So then your up for the challenge? Be sure to post pics of your stats at the end of the match, and the characters lifetime stats. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5720	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:45:00 - [17] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: Atiim wrote: Proto Annihilator wrote: The tools new guys should focus on are combat rifle, rail rifle, mlt tanks. Until you learn the game these give you a huge advantage. That reminds me, new players wouldn't spam MLT HAVs, so that wouldn't be properly simulating the NPE. Good call. they should. The power of tanker tears is a game changer. They deserve the sica rail. But that's not properly simulating the NPE, so it would create a flaw in the experiment. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 3036	Posted - 2014.03.15 19:15:00 - [18] - Quote As an openly proto using merc I will tell you anyone who says it is easy for a new player to kill a proto suit is full of sh*t. Stupid challenge you don't need to do it just to prove a point. Selling Templar BPO's 250Mil Last of the BPO's(Click link) I feed off your tears
safura trotsky Kill Mode Activated Galactic Skyfleet Empire 42	Posted - 2014.03.15 19:18:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: safura trotsky wrote: honestly not that hard if you are good with AR....all i run on my other character is starter suits and i F*ck shyt up So then your up for the challenge? Be sure to post pics of your stats at the end of the match, and the characters lifetime stats. i've been doing "the challenge" since i made that character 3 months ago, i'm not gonna waste my time posting pics for your butthurtness about proto users. Thanks for picking me up blueberry!...and again...and again...STAHP!!!
Croned Gallente Federation 640	Posted - 2014.03.15 19:24:00 - [20] - Quote Proto logis FTW. Logis are also nice because you don't have to worry about your KDR, just a WP/D ratio. Son of a plasma cannon!

C0TS Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2014.03.15 19:24:00 - [21] - Quote Atiim wrote: I see how you like to tell the new players to "HTFU" and adapt your tactics because it's supposedly easy to kill you, so why not prove it? My challenge, is to run a completely new character for the period of 1 month, and then post your stats. Since it's relatively easy to kill "Protobears" with teamwork, this should be a cakewalk. However to simulate the NPE, you are not allowed to transfer ISK into the new character, nor are you allowed to run with a squad of players wearing PRO gear themselves, and you are not allowed to use Assault Dropships or HAVs. If your up for it, then why not eh? -HAND Before open beta ended by K/D was brutal, thanks to players like xxXShotsxx spamming tanks and corps like Imperfects who I could never get away from in Ambush matches. After beta ended, I spec'd into the most OP class I could think of Cal Logi. I ran a pure eHP set up and did quite well for a few months until I got bored. I ended up teaming with a few corps members and a certain female member gave me ** for running Proto gear and since that time I have rarely used it, i don't even have a Proto in my option screen. I rarely squad up, preferring to just login and play a few games a day and not wait around for squads or find a random squad of idiots. I am by no means elite SP wise (open beta puts me around 14-15m SP), i got bored of running a shotgun cal logi adv and decided I would use my alts to see what builds I might like. I don't know how to transfer ISK to an alt (I have tried but couldn't figure it out, i assumed use a third party) but for the last month or so I've been max'ing out my main weekly SP and in that time I've spend *** around on my two "alts". Alts are connected to my main, so I don't have another PSN to collect passive SP. I don't use drop ships or HAV's I simply wanted to see both the new player experience and to use my alt to try CR and RR because it seems everyone else is having a great time with them. I also wanted to try different logi classes in case I decided to spec into them on my main. If you've read my posts you know I am highly critical of the matchmaking system matching noobs with pro's and that seems more the case with my alts running against elite teams than my main who runs FC while alts needs ambush to collect ISK. My logi K/D is about 3 when using old set up, probably in the 2 maybe 2-2.5 when not ***** around with a light suit and RE which I enjoy using. I had in CoD (3-3.5) before I tried to complete every challenge and unlock every gun and started doing stupid suicide or trick sniper shot. My main old weapon was shotgun with hgh eHP build running hives and nano injector but now like I said i use adv light suit with RE for the past few months. Alt 1 - 850k SP went into Min Logi and is 1.75 K/D and is half RR and half NK. - this is after I died a hell of a lot day 1 of the challenge. Alt 2 - 1.5 K/D with 800k SP only has medium min drop suit and uses CR and scrambler pistol - only played 10 matches here for clone challenge but also died a lot. So I did your challenge, i did it for myself month ago and the reasons I stated above. The RR and CR are great guns which are far superior to the AR. The breach shogun are terrible. Its nesrly impossible to kill a heavy with Proto gear on with lv3 CR/RR with one clip. Don't get me started with trying to kill dropships or tanks without turrets. I really hope to get additional 1m SP on both alts and use the suit re-spec to get my alts into Min Scout RR/NK and Cal Scout CR/ScP both at advanced. The new player experience is horrible, very difficult both gameplay (matching up against Proto gear, superior SP, elite corps like outer heaven, NS, and several other stompers). It's probably compounded when the game is new, I struggled a lot coming from CoD while I think if you came from xbox's Halo the struggle would have been less. 1. Improve matchmaking, everyone should have equal chance to kill each other, each team should have equal chance at winning, and everyone should be matched evenly via k/d wo & SP. 2. New player experience has to be improved. Give new players up until 3M SP in a battle training ground, let them use all weapons at std and all suits at lv1 and after the 3M give them a re-spec.
Dalmont Legrand 313	Posted - 2014.03.15 19:27:00 - [22] - Quote whispering voice of a stranger in the coffee shop I'll share a secret with you but to no now, o.k.? announcement somewhere on the street outside says that public suicide is prohibited... Talks: No one cares about that because everyone is comfortable and never going to do what you offer as it will make their words about "HTFU" ridiculous nonsense a.k.a. bullsh..t so you basically ask them to spoil themselves to public as liars_ would you do that? no... no... no... stands up puts on trench coat and a hat and leaves coffee shop into the midnight shadow The best is yet to come* CPM1 Candidate
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5729	Posted - 2014.03.15 19:35:00 - [23] - Quote safura trotsky wrote: Atiim wrote: safura trotsky wrote: honestly not that hard if you are good with AR....all i run on my other character is starter suits and i F*ck shyt up So then your up for the challenge? Be sure to post pics of your stats at the end of the match, and the characters lifetime stats. i've been doing "the challenge" since i made that character 3 months ago, i'm not gonna waste my time posting pics for your butthurtness about proto users. I'm not butthurt. I've been playing on this character for almost year now, and have access to the funds necessary to protostomp pubs for the rest of my DUST 514 career. I could easily pull out a tank or PRO gear myself if I'm up against people wearing them. I was actually trying to help you guys. By doing the fulfilling the challenge, you'd prove that it's easy to kill PRO suits with tactics and teamwork, and that the playerbase simply needs to HTFU. It's not that hard, so why not? You know you've got them good when they begin to make baseless assumptions and pull the "leul ur butthurt bruh" card. Can you please flash that e-peen a bit clearer? I need some note's on the pubstomper's average e-peen size as well. I'm having quite an interesting trip into the mind of a pubstomper. edit: Also, what would this character's name happen to be? AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Adelia Lafayette Science For Death 720	Posted - 2014.03.15 19:38:00 - [24] - Quote I ran my laser rifle alt for 10 matches to get the bonus. It was painful. Assault dropship gets blown up.... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"... ..."I'm back"
Sgt Buttscratch Condotta Rouvenor 2009	Posted - 2014.03.15 19:45:00 - [25] - Quote On behalf of the protobear community we except the challenge, under one condition: We don't do your challenge we do our own, using proto gear, squads and stomp the **** out of the new players I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5730	Posted - 2014.03.15 19:54:00 - [26] - Quote Dalmont Legrand wrote: whispering voice of a stranger in the coffee shop at late night Stranger: "I'll share a secret with you but to nobody , o.k.?" announcement somewhere on the street outside saying that public suicide is prohibited... Stranger: "No one cares about that because everyone is comfortable and never going to do what you offer as it will make their words about "HTFU" ridiculous nonsense a.k.a. bullsh..t so you basically ask them to spoil themselves to public as liars, would you do that? no... no... no..." stands up puts on trench coat and a hat and leaves coffee shop into the midnight shadow Bartender: "who was that?" Atiim: "I don't know..." both looking at the door that closed after a stranger I would do the same, and have done so in the past. All I want, is for them to prove what their saying is true. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1048	Posted - 2014.03.15 19:59:00 - [27] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: As an openly proto using merc I will tell you anyone who says it is easy for a new player to kill a proto suit is full of sh*t. Stupid challenge you don't need to do it just to prove a point. Starter fit, one level into remotes, easy mode. Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
C0TS Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2014.03.15 20:12:00 - [28] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: On behalf of the protobear community we except the challenge, under one condition: We don't do your challenge we do our own, using proto gear, squads and stomp the **** out of the new players It seems like most of the Proto stomping community plays Dust because they got owned in BF and CoD. Instead of playing on even ground they seek games like Dust because they need a major advantage over others to be competitive. Aren't good in CoD well I have a game where if you pay 60$, the same price as a CoD game, you can be better than everyone without requiring the skill. Don't have the ability to play FPS, how about we set you up in a tank, nothing like BF where you can get owned in vehicles but this game you can suck and still put up numbers because no one can harm you outside of other elite players. And ofc you dont have to worry about other elite player because elite dont play vs elite the py just exit the lobby when they see each other. Nothing but people who can't cut it in other FPS, they use Dust and a steroid type boost to their "skill" from their massive SP. There are some great players, but great players don't use a crutch... No need for superior gesr, no need for superior team or squads... Real FPS pick up a controller and play and they sit around and wait for other losers with high SP to join their squads to stomp on newbies who no matter their skill level aren't going to compete with high SP teams spamming Proto gear, 6 tanks etc... So before you enter a conversation about having about how to improve the game by trying to experience somewhat what it is like for a new player to join dust, maybe you should stop relying on your crutch to get by and man up. Its tiring to see what bitches most of the elite community is, crying about a few red line sniper or refusing to embrace a fair and balanced matchmaking system. But then again, being fair isn't why you play dust 514, it's because for the most part the uneven matches and the thrill of killing a player under 3m SP is rewarding because you couldn't kill anyone with regularity in other games.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2323	Posted - 2014.03.15 20:18:00 - [29] - Quote I dont even proto stomp and even I wouldn't touch that challenge..... for free Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8256	Posted - 2014.03.15 20:20:00 - [30] - Quote Atiim wrote: I see how you like to tell the new players to "HTFU" and adapt your tactics because it's supposedly easy to kill you, so why not prove it? My challenge, is to run a completely new character for the period of 1 month, and then post your stats. Since it's relatively easy to kill "Protobears" with teamwork, this should be a cakewalk. However to simulate the NPE, you are not allowed to transfer ISK into the new character, nor are you allowed to run with a squad of players wearing PRO gear themselves, and you are not allowed to use Assault Dropships or HAVs. If your up for it, then why not eh? -HAND I've done that 9 times already I have had 4 Main characters, 3 RP characters with less than 4 Million SP that I use, and another 2 for testing. I understand the issues with the NPE and I tend to take public matches easy, but when I deploy with a squad in FW all bets are off. I am only a cloned mercenary to further the goals of the Amarr Empire as such I will deploy in my fullest capacity to ensure that our forces take the advantage in the wider FW system. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum



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