on a specialized suit they will perform as good as they do now. Every other suit will take a hit. I don't care much but at least know the facts when you come to argue.

They are not punished for carrying different equipment types they are rewarded for using their races equipment. The stats of the equipment doesn't go down when on a logi so it isn't a punishment but the stats for certain equipment goes up and that is the reward for specialization.

CQC is will be dominated by heavies.
Open battlefields will be dominated by tanks.
Anywhere else will be the hunting grounds for imvisible scouts.

Where does the medium frame fit in, here?
Logis can only run one type of equipment, really.
Assaults are confined to one type of weapon and their bonus is laughable compared to the commandos.

It's funny how 1.8 is going to be the exact opposite of most of Uprising. The niche roles will get their revenge, but I still want a good balance.

Logis should not be punished for running other equipment types. Reconsider how much of a nerf equipment is getting. This much of a nerf is not warranted, but the bonuses are a good idea.

Assaults should be better than they are. Honestly, they should have a damage bonus, too that is 1% less/level than the commandos. I feel their hp regen and speed make up for this.

have you seen the equipment nerfs?

I don't know about you guys, but I am happy with my new Assault Bonus. CPU/PG reduction to my light weapon!? Now Gallente doesn't hog all the reduction. My Amarr Assault didn't get nerfed at all, I think it got upgraded. Well, other then the fact I'm no longer going to run a scanner on it. Use the cpu/pg from that for a side arm. The one thing I think the Assault Suit could probably use to more unique from the other suits is a second grenade slot. From what I've seen on here Grenades are already getting a nerf, so why not let Assaults be able to carry more?

CQC is will be dominated by heavies.
Open battlefields will be dominated by tanks.
Anywhere else will be the hunting grounds for imvisible scouts.

Where does the medium frame fit in, here?
Logis can only run one type of equipment, really.
Assaults are confined to one type of weapon and their bonus is laughable compared to the commandos.

It's funny how 1.8 is going to be the exact opposite of most of Uprising. The niche roles will get their revenge, but I still want a good balance.

Logis should not be punished for running other equipment types. Reconsider how much of a nerf equipment is getting. This much of a nerf is not warranted, but the bonuses are a good idea.

Assaults should be better than they are. Honestly, they should have a damage bonus, too that is 1% less/level than the commandos. I feel their hp regen and speed make up for this.

WTF? No room for Medium Frames?

Dude, if you seriously think Assaults and Logis are not gonna have a role you must be either (a) bad, (b) awful, (c) absolutely terrible, or (d) all of the above.

Seriously, L2P before posting nonsense like this. This game isn't Rock-Paper-Scissors. Heavy suits will die just as often to scouts as scouts to heavies, as much as heavies to assaults and logis to heavies. There's this little thing called "skill".

I know you've been a vet for a long time Charlotte, but all I've ever seen from you is QQ on the forums and never anything to back it up in game.

Could you guys at least wait for1.8 to air first before judging it?!

Logis can only run one type of equipment, really.
Assaults are confined to one type of weapon and their bonus is laughable compared to the commandos.

Logis should not be punished for running other equipment types. Reconsider how much of a nerf equipment is getting. This much of a nerf is not warranted, but the bonuses are a good idea.

CQC is will be dominated by heavies.
Open battlefields will be dominated by tanks.
Anywhere else will be the hunting grounds for imvisible scouts.

Where does the medium frame fit in, here?
Logis can only run one type of equipment, really.
Assaults are confined to one type of weapon and their bonus is laughable compared to the commandos.

It's funny how 1.8 is going to be the exact opposite of most of Uprising. The niche roles will get their revenge, but I still want a good balance.

Logis should not be punished for running other equipment types. Reconsider how much of a nerf equipment is getting. This much of a nerf is not warranted, but the bonuses are a good idea.

Assaults should be better than they are. Honestly, they should have a damage bonus, too that is 1% less/level than the commandos. I feel their hp regen and speed make up for this.

I think medium suits will be unpopular for two reasons:
1) They lack the stealth of scout suits
and
2) They lack either the raw eHP of a sentinel or mix of eHP and damage like a commando

Result:
1) Scouts will be able to easily see most medium and heavy suits. With the reduction in TTK and the increase in sentinel eHP, they would rather attack a medium frame because they will go down quickly to a surprise attack. A heavy, especially running into the wrong sentinel, could mean they have enough eHP to tank your surprise attack and still have enough time to turn and kill you.
and
2) Unable to easily find scouts, due to cloak and naturally low scan profile, heavy suits will be forced to either fight among themselves or any medium frames they come across or scan down (who have less eHP and possibly less DPS as well).

Skill does play a factor so obviously this is far from absolute but I have watched the rise and fall of many FOTM fits, and this is what makes my FOTM senses tingle.

This also means that overall, equipment spam won't be as much of a dominant tactic. In particular with uplinks. The slower spawn times will mean you can't be absurdly aggressive with the placement, because you can't rely on the guys spawning to keep it alive. This is going to have a pretty big impact on the pace and feel of the game, and I think it's going to be a lot of fun.

My proposal for this situation would have been to reduce the amount of Max active hives to 1 and keep the amount of carried hives as is. The caldari could get an additional active hive, to bring him back to current stats. The amount of deployed hives would be dependent on the current active suit. (So changing suits wouldnt help). Same rule for uplinks by the way (uplinks get downgraded if the suit gets changed to non Amarr logi).

This would prevent opportunistic Suit changes to different races.

Another important anti equipment spam function would be the fact that all equipment that is deployed gets taken out of the assets, even if the suit is not killed but only switched to another. So all equipment that get's deployed costs money.


The problem with the minmatar beeing the squishiest suit to get the repping bonus is another fail, since the only chance is to brick tank it to oblivion, negating all the speed advanteges the minmatar has... I think a range bonus with the old base ranges would have been a better match for the minmatar logi. And it would have made it more viable for other logis to use the rep tool.

I disagree here, only being able to put down a single hive is just irritating and, while okay for a quick refill of ammo, does not support the stand-your-ground type of combat that is it's Caldari origin (entrench and long-range combat).
Here is a simple change that works with the current mechanics and requires very little effort. The currently listed amount that is max deployable is no longer specific to the equipment, instead that is how many other equipment of it's kind (that you have deployed) it can cooperate with, including itself. Therefore the max amount of nanohives you can deploy is 3 and 3 uplinks, although they can be mixed and matched with others of their kind, but will always require a "gauged" variant to achieve 3 otherwise the limit is 2. Currently I think I can get around 20 nanohives down and probably close to that in uplinks as well.
Ex:
1 Stable Uplink
1 R-9 Uplink
1 Gauged Uplink
OR
1 Visiam
1 Quantum

And

1 K-2 nanohive
1 Quantum nanohive
1 Gauged nanohive

Result: Flexibility but not spammable.