More the reason why CCP should make Dust more user friendly for Dust players.

FYI OP,

I am going to enjoy taking every single piece of land from your Alliance.

TSO should really bring as many ships as possible today and the more expensive the better.

BTW Spero Escrow Services has never had Eve support. It doesn't do any fighting.

SoTa's PoP is not SoTa PoP, firstly. I tried making that alt some 4 months ago and it was already taken... lol

Secondly, GIANTS are some cool ass peeps. I love meta/politics, but when relations like these sours and friends become enemies I couldn't loath it more.

I enjoyed my time learning about EvE from Tso and talking and chilling with them as we set up contracts. If I could of avoided the bad relations I would of sold the entire drawer filled with SoxFours' Sox to do so.

Though I enjoy the idea of smashing FA and friends - I don't look forward to a worsened relation with Cookie, Arunis, and the others.

Sad day. :(

SoTa's PoP is not SoTa PoP, firstly. I tried making that alt some 4 months ago and it was already taken... lol

Secondly, GIANTS are some cool ass peeps. I love meta/politics, but when relations like these sours and friends become enemies I couldn't loath it more.

I enjoyed my time learning about EvE from Tso and talking and chilling with them as we set up contracts. If I could of avoided the bad relations I would of sold the entire drawer filled with SoxFours' Sox to do so.

Though I enjoy the idea of smashing FA and friends - I don't look forward to a worsened relation with Cookie, Arunis, and the others.

Sad day. :(

Meta all you want. Like I said before, you've made your bed.

Such is New Eden.

lol, who would ever trust N-F anyway?

We were working for you and getting too bitchy, so you decide we're a liability.

We were working for you and getting too powerful, so you decide we're a liability.

More threats? Jeez...does the truth hurt you guys that much? No where have I threatened revenge, I just made statements letting the Greater War Room know of a major shift in Dust's politics.

So yes, Congrats on all those spies joining a bunch of corps who take almost all comers. Well done

Bitchy? You should see some of the chat logs from you guys demanding help, even though you ****** up and didn't get us the timer info until just before the match.

You're the one bringing up meta and lying in beds, yet I'm the one making threats by telling you your making things harder for your dust side by these posts? They'll be fighting two of the top corps working in unison on them, that's rough. And your on the forums antagonizing them further to attack more.

I can't tell if your really this stupid. Care to reply and show us?

And at least when we ***** we don't go on strike like a group of emos and still except a pay check for it. Stfu already, kid.

How is saying that you've made your bed a threat? Hmm?

We're gonna have a hell of a time in the next little while, that was going to happen whether you switched sides or not. Its good to see public confirmation of all of your dirty dealings though.

You are not only admitting that you break deals, but that you will change sides at the drop of a hat. That kinda thing sticks with a corp.

If the truth makes things harder, then we're in trouble.....

Negative-Feedback have thrown their lot in with AE and Renegade, the will no longer be receiving 3XXXD (General Tso's Alliance) EVE support any. If you wanted to rise up against your extorting PFC masters, now is the time

SoTa's PoP is not SoTa PoP, firstly. I tried making that alt some 4 months ago and it was already taken... lol

Secondly, GIANTS are some cool ass peeps. I love meta/politics, but when relations like these sours and friends become enemies I couldn't loath it more.

I enjoyed my time learning about EvE from Tso and talking and chilling with them as we set up contracts. If I could of avoided the bad relations I would of sold the entire drawer filled with SoxFours' Sox to do so.

Though I enjoy the idea of smashing FA and friends - I don't look forward to a worsened relation with Cookie, Arunis, and the others.

Sad day. :(

More threats? Jeez...does the truth hurt you guys that much? No where have I threatened revenge, I just made statements letting the Greater War Room know of a major shift in Dust's politics.

So yes, Congrats on all those spies joining a bunch of corps who take almost all comers. Well done

Bitchy? You should see some of the chat logs from you guys demanding help, even though you ****** up and didn't get us the timer info until just before the match.

You could've helped us team up on RA, and then we coulda duked it out afterwards.

Why'd you do it man?

Why'd you have to go cut the blue donut up like that?

You could've helped us team up on RA, and then we coulda duked it out afterwards.

Why'd you do it man?

Why'd you have to go cut the blue donut up like that?

You could've helped us team up on RA, and then we coulda duked it out afterwards.

Why'd you do it man?

Why'd you have to go cut the blue donut up like that?

we DID help you team up on RA... FA and NF were working on this and succeeding

here's the kicker... all that time, NF is taking **** from tso on the eve side. As ive said before there were communication snafus from both sides, multiple times, things that also noted here were hashed out and we all moved on.

Now I hear of crying over the isk... also laughable. sure the amount is laughable compared to eve isk.

But please, just for a second, look at it from our viewpoint. This is not a difficult thing to understand. Fiddle actually covered most bases.

We hire Tso's to provide eve support. no politics no nothing. Price is negotiated and we all go to work. Happy days.

some snags slow things, mostly communication issues, times, locations, not sent in a timely manner. Talks are made, tempers calmed, life back to normal.

Next, NF attacks a new tso member, whilst locking is prevalent across the board. Yes causes an issue (although seriously in all honesty.. I sent the attack, and only saw an 'online' district and jumped at it. nothing more).

so we have a Pow-Wow cooler heads (after SoTa is bound and gagged) prevail and life once again goes on, with the exception of the super secret handshake backroom under the table deal between FA and NF finally comes to light....

now tso expects this NAP to apply to all of them. Ok fine whatever no problem, but NF still pays Tso for support... so NF cant accept contracts against Tso, AND have to pay Tso for continued support... yea this is about the part of the story where you can start to see why we now are where we are..

Anyhoo, yes NF has and remains in talks with many groups in New Eden. We are mercenaries and are always looking ahead and not just stuck spinning wheels in the present.

NF was well aware of a certain 'contract' offered to members of Tso for the eradication of AE (as well as a separate contract for successful NS removal).

We made no mention of it, but after a couple weeks, it became quite apparent that NF was doing more than their fair share of working toward this contract that they knew nothing about (officially) and most certainly were not offered the added incentive (even a % of the contract) of being privy to said contract.

nothing was mentioned, and things continued, then some wise soul from the AE branch of RA reached out to NF (or was it the other way around? tbh I don't even know nor do I care) to open discussions of hiring the neutral NF who plays for who pays....(trademark pending)

Now, what you all DONT know... this 'deal' was struck prior to last night, and was agreed that it would NOT go in effect until Sunday, as we had paid for our Eve support through then.

Of course some other adolescent wannabe teen lookalike that had an estrogen-filled moment started flappin her gums (the wrong ones) about some of the details, and undoubtedly some people in Tso got wind of it (perhaps from the right gums?!?) and conveniently no-showed a contract on our behalf, vs AE. hanging us out to dry.

Message was delivered... and if this was not the intention, then sorry, but we got the message loud and clear.

Next night, we are STILL going after AE...even AFTER we have struck a deal with them. Deal not in effect yet, and we're still at each others throats. Tso shows up this time as contracted, and 2 more intense matches occur.

then of course the cat gets out of the bag last night because.. o yea, we got contracted to play for AE.

isk talks. our 'deal' isn't even in effect yet, and we have already been paid more and treated better in literally 1 night than our entire time working with tso.

DISCLAIMER: Ken and Himiko are absolute monsters and great people to work with. To be quite honest I am not speaking about Anything dust side in specific, as our working relationship with FA and our success combined in working AE is likely what led to this. Just too bad some people don't stay ahead of the game.

Here and now is for suckers. You wanna know whats gonna happen in 2 weeks, then you might be able to get on MY level.
That's not arrogance.. that's how you play the real game in new eden.

So Ivar whateverdafuqyournameis. GG to you. we appreciate the support we paid for from Tso. I enjoyed working with you all, as my pilots gave me OBs which means you did your job.

We broke no agreement. We paid in full and voided the contract. I don't know the details as I wasn't there, but we can both go our separate ways and remain professionals. Both sides have something to learn from the experience, and hopefully both sides take something positive from it.

have a nice day

Holy crap that's a lot to read, where's the tl'dr? Lol