Tso's had an agreement that we would work for Kane providing orbital muscle. We were working well together for a while, had a bit of a rough patch, worked it out.....and then Kane sends his goons against our land in direct violation of that agreement.

So Tso's isn't working for Kane anymore. They told us directly that Renegade had more to offer them than we did, after the attack.

Rather then ending the agreement honorably, he chose to stab us in the back.

Not the first time, nor the last time this has happened in New Eden, so no surprise.

ok well this makes some sense at least

thx Xero.

of course me finding out on the LoL forums before anywhere else is a bit....disturbing, but hey a man needs his sleep

Tso's had an agreement that we would work for Kane providing orbital muscle. We were working well together for a while, had a bit of a rough patch, worked it out.....and then Kane sends his goons against our land in direct violation of that agreement.

So Tso's isn't working for Kane anymore. They told us directly that Renegade had more to offer them than we did, after the attack.

Rather then ending the agreement honorably, he chose to stab us in the back.

Not the first time, nor the last time this has happened in New Eden, so no surprise.

That was before we had worked out full-blue status. Your argument is invalid.

Nah, it just sometimes takes time to set the pieces up when someone proves they aren't worth fulfilling their contracts.

Not fulfilling contracts? Now its you who are lying. We were not contracted for that battle, you were sitting out cherry-picking in lowsec, and got ganked. The rage for that one Thrasher loss was incredible.

Hmmm... how about the night that TSO had already been paid for a week during the blue period and decided to "sit out" one night because they were upset over a small logistical mistake? Refused to refund the ISK for the night that they didn't provide support as well. Yes please tell me more.

TSO should really bring as many ships as possible today and the more expensive the better.

BTW Spero Escrow Services has never had Eve support. It doesn't do any fighting.

I was unfortunately up last night at 5 eve time to do these battles... the lack of sleep is killing be now but I hope you look as fresh as a daisy. Sota was on the other side along with about 8 or 9 NF members that I saw.

I don't know why TSO is stopping orbs for NF... i was just assuming this was why... you know what happens when you assume right?

Most of what I have is speculation... so take it with a grain of salt..... I leave it to my leaders to tell me where to march... I am sure yall will work something out... or you won't... either way I will keep shooting people in the head as much as possible.

SO bring a bigger blob....oh wait...you can't

EVE is not Dust, Canary. We don't have to fight 16v16. We can bring all of our nooblets and pile them onto you until you can't see the sun. We're all terrible pilots anyways, so we need all the help we can get

You mean by blobbing them? I seem to remember that every time you guys see equal numbers you either get curb stomped or run away.

There are a few pilots I will give props to because they show up no matter what but the rest only seem to show when its 20v6

who knows the reasons. 1 thing ive learned is backroom talks eve-side bring on a whole new meaning to the life of a dust merc.

I know ive personally had to smooth things over a few times with pilots, every time over pretty simple things imo.

1 thing I DO know tho, never wise to attempt to strongarm the 1 organization that has remained at or near the top of the food chain since this game was put on a playstation...

just sayin. NF had 1 thing going with FA, was actually working pretty well (yes I said it), but the constant tomfoolery, and unprofessionalism appears to have finally reached its current endpoint.

Like I said before, I know there were communications issues from our side at times as well, so im not pointing any fingers. I still don't know any real details, but I have gotten confirmation that our NAP is officially at an end, and that TSO was paid their fee (yes, we were HELPING them yet had to PAY them as well... go figure why this ended up fizzling out) through the end of this week, which actually is more than we could rightfully have paid, but ending the NAP on good professional terms was more important to some (not me, had I done this you wouldn't be QQ now over us showing up in a match, you woulda gotten the message in a completely different way), but this is why we discuss and delegate things, trusting the judgment of multiple people.

yes crowd control always necessary doing it like that, but o well.. keeps us all on our toes.

I will soon find out specifics as well as what possibilities we can offer in regard to merc services.

1 final thing.. EVE support is just cool to have, it gives you a headstart on vehicle deployment, and also tends to help in clone attrition. but doesn't win games and if anyone relies on it to win games for them.. they've already lost.

you need ground troops. FA has ground troops, STB and ML have bodies, but they've been so busy locking for so long they don't even know how the game is played any more.

looking forward to some fresh meat!!

More Drama I suppose... CCP should let Dust side to have control over Alliance stuff. A lot of confusion and drama can be avoided that way....

Oh god no. Our dust guys can't even figure out EVE dates when it crosses midnight UTC.

Oh god no. Our dust guys can't even figure out EVE dates when it crosses midnight UTC.

Oh god no. Our dust guys can't even figure out EVE dates when it crosses midnight UTC.

math is hard...

no its not, but when counting in reverse, and the screen resetting on you constantly, and glitching up, and all the other issues that constantly arise in regard to the starmap, then add the human element of not being able to coherently pass on information at times...

makes for bumps in the road lol

FYI OP,

I am going to enjoy taking every single piece of land from your Alliance.

Hey, he accused me of blobbing...and I can't really argue because we do. Did you also read the part where I said we were horrible at this game? Anyone who thinks we're flying around Molden Heath like big fish isn't IN Molden Heath.

no its not, but when counting in reverse, and the screen resetting on you constantly, and glitching up, and all the other issues that constantly arise in regard to the starmap, then add the human element of not being able to coherently pass on information at times...

makes for bumps in the road lol

they can only win easily WITH the EVE support....