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SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion League of Infamy 708	Posted - 2014.03.12 13:59:00 - [1] - Quote Quote: The total number of characters created in those 30 days is 306,929, averaging at 429 per hour. You can see the weekends and downtimes just like with the PCU graphs. The amount of game currency generated from that is a whooping 76,732,250,000 DUST ISK. This is actually close to what Planetary Conquest puts into the games economy under optimal circumstances. Full article here: http://dustmerc.wordpress.com/2014/03/12/recycling/ Discuss. Selling dust codes!
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2110	Posted - 2014.03.12 14:05:00 - [2] - Quote hmmmm seems like new characters should start with no isk, it's not really that big of a deal since they all have their free suits, and can then gain that 250k in 1-2 matches. sure it would hurt the NPE a tiny bit, but the NPE needs to be revamped as a whole anyway. I'd say give them a free set of gear but ultimately when the market hits players will be able to start this process over if the gear is worth any substantial amount of value, unless the rookie gear was marked as unsellable. edit -------- other option is to implement an option where players aren't allowed to trade until they have played 30 games on the account, players can give them isk but they cannot trade out. it's more elegant I suppose, and would resolve this quickly I believe.
C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 532	Posted - 2014.03.12 14:07:00 - [3] - Quote calisk galern wrote: hmmmm seems like new characters should start with no isk, it's not really that big of a deal since they all have their free suits, and can then gain that 250k in 1-2 matches. sure it would hurt the NPE a tiny bit, but the NPE needs to be revamped as a whole anyway. Skills cost isk and when you dont know what buttons do what, thats quiet hard to ear. // Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
Musta Tornius Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1148	Posted - 2014.03.12 14:08:00 - [4] - Quote Where there is a way people will **** on the economy. DUST514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2110	Posted - 2014.03.12 14:09:00 - [5] - Quote C Saunders wrote: calisk galern wrote: hmmmm seems like new characters should start with no isk, it's not really that big of a deal since they all have their free suits, and can then gain that 250k in 1-2 matches. sure it would hurt the NPE a tiny bit, but the NPE needs to be revamped as a whole anyway. Skills cost isk and when you dont know what buttons do what, thats quiet hard to ear. my newest suggestion would resolve this better, i don't believe 250k goes very far towards new skills, and you'd get that much from an academy game anyway, but regardless the fix posted above allows them to have their 250k but keeps it from being reasonably farmable.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3093	Posted - 2014.03.12 14:21:00 - [6] - Quote I gotta do what I gotta do to keep up with the guys that benefit from district locking. My way requires some effort and only benefits me in small increments. I have found that it's usually better just to use an alt and run a few matches in Starter Fits and play like I don't give a **. Anyways, so ***** what. They said a while back that this was a viable option and working as intended. I assume it helps appease the suits at PSN or they (CCP) probably would've put a halt to it. I GÖú Kittens.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion League of Infamy 537	Posted - 2014.03.12 15:04:00 - [7] - Quote I didnt see the numbers for toons being deleted. How do we know how many of these toons are legitimately being created by new players, then abandoned after the first day because the NPE sux. I created 6 different toons, 5 of them to play around with new stuff before speccing my main. How many others have done this? Also, random letter names are not always alts. I've seen plenty of non-english speaking players who type in random letter names because they cant spell english words. I will say nice work on the data you have compiled, but i think you have still made too many assumptions. Maybe im just old-school and still have a lot of e-honor in me, but i highly doubt more than a handful of people are doing this
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2115	Posted - 2014.03.12 15:07:00 - [8] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: I didnt see the numbers for toons being deleted. How do we know how many of these toons are legitimately being created by new players, then abandoned after the first day because the NPE sux. I created 6 different toons, 5 of them to play around with new stuff before speccing my main. How many others have done this? Also, random letter names are not always alts. I've seen plenty of non-english speaking players who type in random letter names because they cant spell english words. I will say nice work on the data you have compiled, but i think you have still made too many assumptions. Maybe im just old-school and still have a lot of e-honor in me, but i highly doubt more than a handful of people are doing this my solution would not effect any legitimate new players. it would only address the abuse.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1821	Posted - 2014.03.12 15:07:00 - [9] - Quote What I'm wondering is why the option to be "reborn" even exists. Doing so nukes your SP and isk doesn't it? So why would it ever make sense to do unless you were farming isk?
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2411	Posted - 2014.03.12 15:25:00 - [10] - Quote lol biomassing for 250k. It takes a whole day till your char gets deleted. So whats the point? You could just go and play a quick ambush in starter fits to get allmost the same ISK. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7328	Posted - 2014.03.12 15:30:00 - [11] - Quote Honestly they should increase the biomass timer to 24 hours and reduce the starter ISK to 5,000 ISK. This is similar to Eve Online's starting characters and as I remember correctly, CCP will ban your account and confiscate your ISK if you're caught farming like this in Eve. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Malkai Inos Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1221	Posted - 2014.03.12 15:52:00 - [12] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: I didnt see the numbers for toons being deleted. How do we know how many of these toons are legitimately being created by new players, then abandoned after the first day because the NPE sux. No name can exist twice at the same time. So for every name on that list the number of deleted toons is the number of created toons minus 1. P14GU3 wrote: I created 6 different toons, 5 of them to play around with new stuff before speccing my main. How many others have done this? Look at the data. This is not about 5 alts. P14GU3 wrote: Also, random letter names are not always alts. I've seen plenty of non-english speaking players who type in random letter names because they cant spell english words. You're right. Not always. But look at the data and tell me that some non-english speakers. P14GU3 wrote: I will say nice work on the data you have compiled, but i think you have still made too many assumptions. Maybe im just old-school and still have a lot of e-honor in me, but i highly doubt more than a handful of people are doing this The data clearly indicates abusive behavior with measurable impact, seeing as Chribba was able to, well, measure it. The dark cloud wrote: lol biomassing for 250k. It takes a whole day till your char gets deleted. So whats the point? You could just go and play a quick ambush in starter fits to get allmost the same ISK. You can do it on however many accounts as you want. Looking here we can pick "sweetie pie" 1/2/3 as obviously by the same person. Between those three characters alone 31 million where created passively in the last 30 days. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Guinevere Bravo SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 597	Posted - 2014.03.12 15:56:00 - [13] - Quote lets nerf the noobs!!! OR If an account already has a character with skill points topping 1mil, the next character starts w.ith no extra ISK. Easy STB EU Director since October 2012. STB EVE Pilot ; Vervz
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 174	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:01:00 - [14] - Quote EDIT: Oops replied to wrong topic.
Marc Rime 309	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:09:00 - [15] - Quote Interesting read. Thanks :). ...only thing I don't understand is why on earth anyone would bother doing that. Unless it's fully automated (kind hard on the PS3, I would think?) it sounds horribly boring. Is there enough demand for dust ISK that someone could be doing that for a living?


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