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jhon hartigan Maphia Clan Corporation 141	Posted - 2014.03.11 18:58:00 - [1] - Quote why? first of all read this topic and the link in it link it says that the patchnote is going to be the 18th but previously it said, yesterday, something like (i cant open the link atm, I dont know why) that the patch notes was almost ready. So why not give it to us if it was ready? What I think is that in the patch notes they will say that they are giving us a respec or a refund in 1.8. But they dont want to let us know it now. why? becase of the 1 million clone challenge. With that event they want to sell a lot of boosters and omega boosters (it s right I m not saying they are bad people or anything like these, they have to make money, dont they?). We know that there are going to be a lot of new things in 1.8 and we want a lot of SP to be able to skill them when 1.8 drops. So a lot of us is going to buy boosters. What would happen if they say that they are giving us a respec/refund with 1.8? A lot of us have enough sp to skill whatever we want without the need of other sp from the event so we wouldnt buy boosters for the event. as it is now we dont know if there will be a respec/refund so we will buy boosters to be sure we'll have enough sp for when 1.8 drops So: 1.8 is ready or at least is the patchnote, ccp isn't realising it yet because in the patch note they say they will give us a respec and they dont want to say it yet to sell more boosters. This is just speculation, I m not sure about anything. I just wanted to know what you guys think about it. Also: sorry for my english, I m italian, I hope it is understandable and not too hard to read.
Foundation Seldon Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 513	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:08:00 - [2] - Quote Or, instead of a conspiracy theory, how about we look at a more reasonable explanation. They've just recently submitted the patch to Sony and the process of approval can take anywhere between 1-2 weeks. The patch is more than likely done, it's in the hands of the middle man at this point. They're not releasing the patch notes now because traditionally the patch notes aren't out until a week before release and CCP takes an IV Drip type approach to releasing devblogs and such in order to increase excitement for its release. There's also always a chance that Sony rejects the patch due to it not making whatever criteria they have for these things and the patch has to be delayed as a result. Saga v. Methana Balance
Heinrich Jagerblitzen D3LTA FORC3 C0VEN 1621	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:10:00 - [3] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: Or, instead of a conspiracy theory, how about we look at a more reasonable explanation. They've just recently submitted the patch to Sony and the process of approval can take anywhere between 1-2 weeks. The patch is more than likely done, it's in the hands of the middle man at this point. They're not releasing the patch notes now because traditionally the patch notes aren't out until a week before release and CCP takes an IV Drip type approach to releasing devblogs and such in order to increase excitement for its release. There's also always a chance that Sony rejects the patch due to it not making whatever criteria they have for these things and the patch has to be delayed as a result. Foundation pretty much nailed it.
RKKR The Southern Legion League of Infamy 805	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:12:00 - [4] - Quote 1.8 is ready? Is that why the slot layout on the medium suits are unchanged? Remember that one time when a DEV released some info on what was going to be in a patch and then several days later it got cancelled? 1.8 is probably last-minute work.
Patrick57 6019	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:17:00 - [5] - Quote RKKR wrote: 1.8 is ready? Is that why the slot layout on the medium suits are unchanged? CCP said that they won't be changing medium suit slots in 1.8. That'll be coming at a later date apparently. I think I'm a forum warrior level 6 :D
RKKR The Southern Legion League of Infamy 805	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:21:00 - [6] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: RKKR wrote: 1.8 is ready? Is that why the slot layout on the medium suits are unchanged? CCP said that they won't be changing medium suit slots in 1.8. That'll be coming at a later date apparently. (I know) Because they probably had to finish things up to be reviewed by Sony on time. Even the last-minute stuff didn't get in. Let those bugs and glitches come!
jhon hartigan Maphia Clan Corporation 141	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:30:00 - [7] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: Or, instead of a conspiracy theory, how about we look at a more reasonable explanation. They've just recently submitted the patch to Sony and the process of approval can take anywhere between 1-2 weeks. The patch is more than likely done, it's in the hands of the middle man at this point. They're not releasing the patch notes now because traditionally the patch notes aren't out until a week before release and CCP takes an IV Drip type approach to releasing devblogs and such in order to increase excitement for its release. There's also always a chance that Sony rejects the patch due to it not making whatever criteria they have for these things and the patch has to be delayed as a result. Maybe you are right Anyway, calling it a conspiracy theory you make it look like a bad thing and that I m blaiming CCP for doing this. This wasnt my point. Maybe I didnt explain myself the way I wanted. I think it would have been a smart move because they are a software house and they have to make money. And I really hope CCP will earn money with this game so they will be able to make it better in the future as they did with EVE. What I wanted wasnt to blame them but just to say "guys I think 1.8 is ready and we will have a respec. We dont know it yet because CCP is smart enough to hold the information for another week". I hope this time you understood what I wanted to say with my thread. :) Again sorry about my english and my inability to explain exactly what I mean.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3188	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:41:00 - [8] - Quote My guess is a couple of things are going on here. Rubicon 1.3 is shipping tomorrow and likely includes the market changes necessary for Uprising 1.8 and they don't want to deploy them too close together to have time to resolve any problems on Tranquility. Two weeks seems a bit long though. Delivering racial parity at the suit, rifle and pistol level may have taken a bit longer than expected which in turn delayed submission to Sony. Fitting into Sony's QA schedule probably requires coordination and if they missed a date it could mean waiting for the next opening to submit. Releasing patch notes on the 18th probably means they'll have their answer on what passed by the end of this week giving them time to edit as necessary. I have the feeling that development effort has been split between delivering Uprising patches with just enough content to keep discontent among the player base as low as feasible and building the new expansion which will be demoed at FanFest in May. The official reason for delaying the new Caldari and Minmatar outposts and socket sets are 'performance and optimization' but if I were in marketing I'd want to bundle all that up in a full expansion to have something to brag about. Add in the possibility of PVE and they may be ready to start the real marketing campaign. Rumor is the dev team is excited about the direction CCP Rouge is leading them and that FanFest is something that should not be missed. Since we no longer get teasers about what is happening I'm guessing CCP Rouge has orders to keep things locked down tight. They've had enough time that I'm hoping to see full racial parity for outposts and maybe even vehicles. May 1-3 can't come quick enough. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 339	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:45:00 - [9] - Quote to me it doesnt matter either way. i dont have the sp i want even with a respec. MOAR MOAR MOAR. my name is boba and im a hoarder. although this isnt by choice. no player market =(
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 199	Posted - 2014.03.11 20:00:00 - [10] - Quote I want my amarrian dropships.... Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...

Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 252	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:37:00 - [11] - Quote I want a pony
jerrmy12 kahoalii Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 485	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:39:00 - [12] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: Or, instead of a conspiracy theory, how about we look at a more reasonable explanation. They've just recently submitted the patch to Sony and the process of approval can take anywhere between 1-2 weeks. The patch is more than likely done, it's in the hands of the middle man at this point. They're not releasing the patch notes now because traditionally the patch notes aren't out until a week before release and CCP takes an IV Drip type approach to releasing devblogs and such in order to increase excitement for its release. There's also always a chance that Sony rejects the patch due to it not making whatever criteria they have for these things and the patch has to be delayed as a result. Remember the 1.8 thread, they said something about 1 in 2 chance something about patch and notes being released at once... Closed beta vet Logi, Heavy, Python, Scout.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3391	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:41:00 - [13] - Quote I'm ready to get 1.8 up and running. I want to see them CalSco and CalSen dropsuits already!!! Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1707	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:44:00 - [14] - Quote Well, I for one am not playing a single more minute of this game until those that patch comes. I'[m tired of the rail rifle spam, Im tired of the tank spam, Im tired of the broken hit detection, Im tired of 1.7 and all the no-skill bullsht it put into the game I ain't got time for dat sht!
Tank Gorilla Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 62	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:45:00 - [15] - Quote they prolly dont want to release right when they get done because of fixing bugs so on, Slayer of Evil. Destroyer of Tanks. Crusher of Dreams Tank Gorillarape
jerrmy12 kahoalii Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 485	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:46:00 - [16] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: I want a pony Have this instead. Closed beta vet Logi, Heavy, Python, Scout.
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 1858	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:46:00 - [17] - Quote Toytle Team carry Prof. IV I need Full Proto and five Proto Bodyguards to be good.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 2492	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:52:00 - [18] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: Or, instead of a conspiracy theory, how about we look at a more reasonable explanation. They've just recently submitted the patch to Sony and the process of approval can take anywhere between 1-2 weeks. The patch is more than likely done, it's in the hands of the middle man at this point. They're not releasing the patch notes now because traditionally the patch notes aren't out until a week before release and CCP takes an IV Drip type approach to releasing devblogs and such in order to increase excitement for its release. There's also always a chance that Sony rejects the patch due to it not making whatever criteria they have for these things and the patch has to be delayed as a result. This is pretty much spot on. No conspiracy theory here - we often work until the very last day to include things in patches / QA, and then there is a Sony approval process that takes place. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

jerrmy12 kahoalii Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 485	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:54:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Foundation Seldon wrote: Or, instead of a conspiracy theory, how about we look at a more reasonable explanation. They've just recently submitted the patch to Sony and the process of approval can take anywhere between 1-2 weeks. The patch is more than likely done, it's in the hands of the middle man at this point. They're not releasing the patch notes now because traditionally the patch notes aren't out until a week before release and CCP takes an IV Drip type approach to releasing devblogs and such in order to increase excitement for its release. There's also always a chance that Sony rejects the patch due to it not making whatever criteria they have for these things and the patch has to be delayed as a result. This is pretty much spot on. No conspiracy theory here - we often work until the very last day to include things in patches / QA, and then there is a Sony approval process that takes place. Is there a 0.00001 chance that patchnotes are released on patch day? We want that patch... Closed beta vet Logi, Heavy, Python, Scout.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 2492	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:55:00 - [20] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Is there a 0.00001 chance that patchnotes are released on patch day? We want that patch... Negatory! CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian


jerrmy12 kahoalii Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 485	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:56:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Is there a 0.00001 chance that patchnotes are released on patch day? We want that patch... Negatory! Ok, good 25th march release "We're not trying to dissuade people from discussing respecs - only to prevent forum spam like...this thread. :) Inb4lock." Nice troll, btw love it just like some planetside 2 patch notes. Also please post in respec thread to stop the spam Closed beta vet Logi, Heavy, Python, Scout.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3392	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:56:00 - [22] - Quote lol I'm going to create a petition on change.org for Sony to hurry this up. #allcaldarieverything Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
KGB Sleep 833	Posted - 2014.03.12 01:04:00 - [23] - Quote Even though I really want to play 1.8, I would rather they take an extra week of QA to insure that we don't get Fatal Errors after every single match. Because beer, that's why.
Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 172	Posted - 2014.03.12 01:09:00 - [24] - Quote Don't blame CCP, blame Sony! /insertlongranthere >CCP Saberwing: "NERF EVERYTHING!!!" *THE-TITANS* Director
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 185	Posted - 2014.03.12 01:14:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Foundation Seldon wrote: Or, instead of a conspiracy theory, how about we look at a more reasonable explanation. They've just recently submitted the patch to Sony and the process of approval can take anywhere between 1-2 weeks. The patch is more than likely done, it's in the hands of the middle man at this point. They're not releasing the patch notes now because traditionally the patch notes aren't out until a week before release and CCP takes an IV Drip type approach to releasing devblogs and such in order to increase excitement for its release. There's also always a chance that Sony rejects the patch due to it not making whatever criteria they have for these things and the patch has to be delayed as a result. This is pretty much spot on. No conspiracy theory here - we often work until the very last day to include things in patches / QA, and then there is a Sony approval process that takes place. Same thing with microsoft
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5184	Posted - 2014.03.12 02:44:00 - [26] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Foundation Seldon wrote: Or, instead of a conspiracy theory, how about we look at a more reasonable explanation. They've just recently submitted the patch to Sony and the process of approval can take anywhere between 1-2 weeks. The patch is more than likely done, it's in the hands of the middle man at this point. They're not releasing the patch notes now because traditionally the patch notes aren't out until a week before release and CCP takes an IV Drip type approach to releasing devblogs and such in order to increase excitement for its release. There's also always a chance that Sony rejects the patch due to it not making whatever criteria they have for these things and the patch has to be delayed as a result. Foundation pretty much nailed it. Which unfortunately means that, despite many community protests about released stats, there's nothing that can be done now. We're locked into at least another month of painstaking gameplay changes. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 731	Posted - 2014.03.12 02:48:00 - [27] - Quote Haha he said QA like it's a thing. CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2203	Posted - 2014.03.12 03:21:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Is there a 0.00001 chance that patchnotes are released on patch day? We want that patch... Negatory! YOu know what... you never get the patch notes right, just release it. I fact I'm going to run on a new CSM platform. Just release stuff with a vague list of what you think will be in it. We get it, it's hard to find it all and put it in a list. I'm not trying to be drastic, you guys are doing a great job with what you've got, but I think after sky flying tanks, and not to forget sticky remote mines still not having any blue confirmation AT ALL. Seriously what does ignoring that it happened gain you? Why are devs acting like nothing happen? Is that what you expect us the players to do? Act like remote mines were always sticky since forever? Just release the patch, we can handle it. Patch notes won't be much help anyways , be honest we wanted a sandbox shooter, we got a snadbox shooter. Advertise your game on what is really holding t's playerbase. We like how the game is a whole new game ever patch. But Were worried about the direction of the sand... Do something new, if the patch notes won't tell the whole story anyways just give us datadumps and let us write the dev blogs for you. Advertise Dust as the shooter that's always changing! The 1st mmo in history to not release patch notes on purpose. Do it, start being honest so we can get content and more players faster.
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 165	Posted - 2014.03.12 03:30:00 - [29] - Quote 1.8 may be ready... But the real question is... Does CCP have anything ready for future patches? This game need more vehicles! dangCCPyou'reslowpickupthepace
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2205	Posted - 2014.03.12 03:35:00 - [30] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: Or, instead of a conspiracy theory, how about we look at a more reasonable explanation. Maybe CCP shouldn't wait until such a late date to confirm a patch date... What do you expect?



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