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SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 10:55:00 -
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i hope they do in time because players that have left the game wont even come back to take part in the event unless a respec is confirmed...
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Ayures II
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.11 10:56:00 -
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Stop begging for your FOTM button. |
SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 10:57:00 -
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Ayures II wrote:Stop begging for your FOTM button.
riiiight......
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Vanell Sin
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 10:59:00 -
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no respec for you
Im playing since Uprising 1.0 and still have 8m SP.Im I doing something wrong?
We are immortal
Deal with it
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
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Posted - 2014.03.11 10:59:00 -
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I just read that a RESPEC is definitely, possibly, probably, most likely, maybe or maybe not confirmed or denied.
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:00:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:i hope they do in time because players that have left the game wont even come back to take part in the event unless a respec is confirmed... They gave us a heavy SP gain event,and now they're giving us the chance to earn 1 million SP.
So,I would assume 2+2=No respec
But because they recognise the changes are dramatic,they are willing to give us an SP cushion to fall back on.
Only users lose drugs.
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Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:01:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:i hope they do in time because players that have left the game wont even come back to take part in the event unless a respec is confirmed...
Thats in stars, we will see. Im for full respec, but without their responce it whole be only hzpotetical. About day i really dont think they are "longsighted" like this, but hope still dying last
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:07:00 -
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Ayures II wrote:Stop begging for your FOTM button. I want a fotm because alot of my gear is not useless to me, I've never tried being the FOTM, just play to have fun the way I know how. (the Matar way!)
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KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:12:00 -
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Consider the push to get the new suits and weapons out.
There are other vehicles and weapons on the way that will not make it into 1.8.
If they continue to finish those projects as a priority, then a total respec later would make the most sense.
Look at tanks now, they are going to be balanced again. Don't you think the vehicle community will want a respec when the new Amarr and Minmatart tanks and balance passes hit?
CCP is notoriously stingy with respecs so it doesn't make sense to assume they would hand out two in a short span of time.
Not that I am against them doing that, it just doesn't seem likely that they will.
Because beer, that's why.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:16:00 -
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Give me a respec and I'll invest all my points into a Minmatar Basic Light Frame, Flaylock Pistols, Plasma Canons, and Rep Tools.
I will then laugh at all the FotM arguments as I gracefully take my 11th place spot in pub domination matches! BRING IT ON!!!! |
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StoneSmasher Drugga
Da Short Buss Driving School
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:16:00 -
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I took a break maybe a month ago. I browse the forums every so often to see when 1.8 hits. If we don't get a sp refund or respec I doubt I ever come back.
There is no evil greater than hyperbole.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:18:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Consider the push to get the new suits and weapons out.
There are other vehicles and weapons on the way that will not make it into 1.8.
If they continue to finish those projects as a priority, then a total respec later would make the most sense.
Look at tanks now, they are going to be balanced again. Don't you think the vehicle community will want a respec when the new Amarr and Minmatart tanks and balance passes hit?
CCP is notoriously stingy with respecs so it doesn't make sense to assume they would hand out two in a short span of time.
Not that I am against them doing that, it just doesn't seem likely that they will.
Short spam, like really. Funny. Boyo now they implement few thibgies and "later" the balance for HAV, that "later" will be another quarter/half/soon of year.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:18:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Give me a respec and I'll invest all my points into a Minmatar Basic Light Frame, Flaylock Pistols, Plasma Canons, and Rep Tools.
I will then laugh at all the FotM arguments as I gracefully take my 11th place spot in pub domination matches! BRING IT ON!!!!
Best post, ever?
It is not fun to have a bad suit.
Drop it like its hat.
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Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:20:00 -
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StoneSmasher Drugga wrote:I took a break maybe a month ago. I browse the forums every so often to see when 1.8 hits. If we don't get a sp refund or respec I doubt I ever come back.
Agree with yoy boyo, i already preparing myself for destiny. If CCP dont speed up on progression and start fulfill their given promises, i basicaly leave too.
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Drapedup Drippedout
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:21:00 -
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Ayures II wrote:Stop begging for your FOTM button.
Please. Explain.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:23:00 -
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People who think them showering us with SP somehow negates the initial argument for respecs clearly do no understand nor grasp the initial argument for respecs in the first place
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:25:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:i hope they do in time because players that have left the game wont even come back to take part in the event unless a respec is confirmed...
There have been like 3 sp events, plus another one announced and you've gotten 3 months of passive & active since this event has been announced. Read between the lines - you're not getting a respec. |
Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:27:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:I just read that a RESPEC is definitely, possibly, probably, most likely, maybe or maybe not confirmed or denied.
LOL
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:30:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:SILVERBACK 02 wrote:i hope they do in time because players that have left the game wont even come back to take part in the event unless a respec is confirmed... There have been like 3 sp events, plus another one announced and you've gotten 3 months of passive & active since this event has been announced. Read between the lines - you're not getting a respec.
If not then seeya all. I dont need to play game what first pushes you spent skill on something near to your role. And after tells you:"Oki boyo enjoy, now you can have role what you wanted before, but you must left your spent SP in something in what you had to spec before." No CCP this is not what i wanted.
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:36:00 -
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I'm fairly certain that ccp knows whether or not it's happening, but are being mute about it to avoid the backlash. Confirmation, even negative would be greatly appreciated so I could plan. I have been saving sp but would like to spend said sp because I am a bad saver. |
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:39:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Consider the push to get the new suits and weapons out.
There are other vehicles and weapons on the way that will not make it into 1.8.
If they continue to finish those projects as a priority, then a total respec later would make the most sense.
Look at tanks now, they are going to be balanced again. Don't you think the vehicle community will want a respec when the new Amarr and Minmatart tanks and balance passes hit?
CCP is notoriously stingy with respecs so it doesn't make sense to assume they would hand out two in a short span of time.
Not that I am against them doing that, it just doesn't seem likely that they will.
But vehicle users would have minmitar and amarr vehicles already unlocked since the skill for tanks unlocks both tanks. Meaning when the new tanks drop, they already have em.
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:43:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:StoneSmasher Drugga wrote:I took a break maybe a month ago. I browse the forums every so often to see when 1.8 hits. If we don't get a sp refund or respec I doubt I ever come back. Agree with yoy boyo, i already preparing myself for destiny. If CCP dont speed up on progression and start fulfill their given promises, i basicaly leave too. So... Good bye, I guess.
DUST Fiend wrote:People who think them showering us with SP somehow negates the initial argument for respecs clearly do no understand nor grasp the initial argument for respecs in the first place Yes, we are all aware that you pro-respec'ers are trying to destroy DUST.
But CCP kinda wants this game to succeed, so they give out these bonus SP. Kinda in the way you go along with demands for pizza, but not a helicopter, when a failed bank robber is holding hostages. |
Minako Nakajima
Vortex State Empire Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:47:00 -
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no respec for me.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:48:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:People who think them showering us with SP somehow negates the initial argument for respecs clearly do no understand nor grasp the initial argument for respecs in the first place Yes, we are all aware that you pro-respec'ers are trying to destroy DUST.But CCP kinda wants this game to succeed, so they give out these bonus SP. Kinda in the way you go along with demands for pizza, but not a helicopter, when a failed bank robber is holding hostages. Drama
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:55:00 -
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I watch that clip every time it's posted. Too funny. I seriously giggle at how adamant people are in their stance over a video game. |
MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:04:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:SILVERBACK 02 wrote:i hope they do in time because players that have left the game wont even come back to take part in the event unless a respec is confirmed... There have been like 3 sp events, plus another one announced and you've gotten 3 months of passive & active since this event has been announced. Read between the lines - you're not getting a respec. If not then seeya all. I dont need to play game what first pushes you spent skill on something near to your role. And after tells you:"Oki boyo enjoy, now you can have role what you wanted before, but you must left your spent SP in something in what you had to spec before." No CCP this is not what i wanted.
Don't spend sp on **** you don't want then. This is new eden choices have consequences. |
DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:07:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Don't spend sp on **** you don't want then. This is new eden choices have consequences. Like CCPs choice to mess up their engine, leading to partial racial parity and a mess of bugs and backend changes, leading to the consequence of a low player base and horrendous public appeal?
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:20:00 -
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Hey you! You like assault rifles? There's only 1! *puts points into the only gun of its class*
"Feels good, this is my kind of gun!"
9 months and 7 patches later....
Combat rifle!
O.o "this is soooooo much more my style! The look, the feel, the sound of it..So much nicer!" *puts At in the closet*
You can't make "informed" choices based on speculative theory. We know racial parity is coming up, but how soon? Should you not play while your heavy suit doesn't exist? Or your tank of choice? Should you run free gear and get eaten up to save sp for maybe whenever? We have racial pistols and rifles finally and base suits, but no heavy weapons or vehicles/turrets. Some specialized weapon types are still on the way. If you snipe you have one choice, the caldari sniper. Point being, it's just not fun to have to wait, some of us want to play now. |
DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:22:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Hey you! You like assault rifles? There's only 1! *puts points into the only gun of its class*
"Feels good, this is my kind of gun!"
9 months and 7 patches later....
Combat rifle!
O.o "this is soooooo much more my style! The look, the feel, the sound of it..So much nicer!" *puts At in the closet*
You can't make "informed" choices based on speculative theory. We know racial parity is coming up, but how soon? Should you not play while your heavy suit doesn't exist? Or your tank of choice? Should you run free gear and get eaten up to save sp for maybe whenever? We have racial pistols and rifles finally and base suits, but no heavy weapons or vehicles/turrets. Some specialized weapon types are still on the way. If you snipe you have one choice, the caldari sniper. Point being, it's just not fun to have to wait, some of us want to play now. This is really what it breaks down to:
Whether you're focused on 'DUST 514 Theoretical' or 'DUST 514 Actual'
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Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:22:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:SILVERBACK 02 wrote:i hope they do in time because players that have left the game wont even come back to take part in the event unless a respec is confirmed... There have been like 3 sp events, plus another one announced and you've gotten 3 months of passive & active since this event has been announced. Read between the lines - you're not getting a respec. If not then seeya all. I dont need to play game what first pushes you spent skill on something near to your role. And after tells you:"Oki boyo enjoy, now you can have role what you wanted before, but you must left your spent SP in something in what you had to spec before." No CCP this is not what i wanted. Don't spend sp on **** you don't want then. This is new eden choices have consequences.
Hmm like heavy for example, dont sped money on amarr heavy if i wanted to be a heavy and there basicaly wasnt any other choise?! By your definition i should wait two years for implementation and till that time played something else?! No i dont agree, what you wrote is just shortsighted and hasty view on issue. Globalization of problem is not right step for progress.
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:26:00 -
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Definitely, the speculative is what keeps my arse in the chair, but the actual I have to deal with every day. I personally don't sweat it I have points in all kinds of useless things and its fun to DUST them off from time to time and have a go. Hell I even have a plasma cannon fit.....with a flaylock lol |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:28:00 -
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I dont want a respect at this point just so we can purge the communty of these horrifcly whiny flavour of the month players
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:32:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I dont want a respect at this point just so we can purge the communty of these horrifcly whiny flavour of the month players FoTM players are a product of bad balance, not respecs when big changes like these come through (read: changes, not additions)
Plus, you aren't going to purge anything by pissing people off. All you do is create more Planetside bombers and detract from what little positive momentum the community has behind it.
If CCP builds a stable foundation and only occasionally does slight % passes on base material, legitimate arguments for respecs die. Fact.
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Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:39:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I dont want a respect at this point just so we can purge the communty of these horrifcly whiny flavour of the month players
FoTM is made by CCP not players, try be more in too problem next time, before you start blaming others for CCPs failures. BTW in respec thread we already told respec ONLY for big implements/patches, not the instant one.
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calisk galern
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:40:00 -
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honestly I'd just like to know whether they are doing it or not, I want a respec but since I had so much sp it really doesn't matter to me. |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:42:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I dont want a respect at this point just so we can purge the communty of these horrifcly whiny flavour of the month players FoTM players are a product of bad balance, not respecs when big changes like these come through (read: changes, not additions) Plus, you aren't going to purge anything by pissing people off. All you do is create more Planetside bombers and detract from what little positive momentum the community has behind it. If CCP builds a stable foundation and only occasionally does slight % passes on base material, legitimate arguments for respecs die. Fact.
Are you tired by this scratched LP too. proRespecarians:"No argument against the respec i see." nonRespecarians:"Hmmm flavor..flavor of the month, it will be terible, the FoTM will be problem."
Its like i dont know i really dont thing they know about pure idea of respec.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:46:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I dont want a respect at this point just so we can purge the communty of these horrifcly whiny flavour of the month players FoTM players are a product of bad balance, not respecs when big changes like these come through (read: changes, not additions) Plus, you aren't going to purge anything by pissing people off. All you do is create more Planetside bombers and detract from what little positive momentum the community has behind it. If CCP builds a stable foundation and only occasionally does slight % passes on base material, legitimate arguments for respecs die. Fact. Are you tired by this scratched LP too. proRespecarians:"No argument against the respec i see." nonRespecarians:"Hmmm flavor..flavor of the month, it will be terible, the FoTM will be problem." Its like i dont know i really dont thing they know about pure idea of respec. I'm just amusing myself in the interim.
I have plans for both scenarios, this decision will not make or break DUST, but it will cause a shift in the player - CCP relationship, for better or worse.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:51:00 -
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I agree here, honestly im prepared for both too. But i thing more criticaly way, than your plans. I basical dont wnt start for sixth or fifth, hell i even dont know how many time i already start from scratch here
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:17:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Rasatsu wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:People who think them showering us with SP somehow negates the initial argument for respecs clearly do no understand nor grasp the initial argument for respecs in the first place Yes, we are all aware that you pro-respec'ers are trying to destroy DUST.But CCP kinda wants this game to succeed, so they give out these bonus SP. Kinda in the way you go along with demands for pizza, but not a helicopter, when a failed bank robber is holding hostages. Drama Queen Says the group of people who are going to quit if they don't get respecs... |
DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:20:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Says the group of people who are going to quit if they don't get respecs... There's a difference between quitting, and taking an extended break.
Also, most people who would be that up in arms are currently or have been paying customers to this free game, so they tend to have more of an investment in how their SP is handled when CCP decides to just shake things up again.
Time will tell, patch is most likely on the 25th so we will know soon.
Also, I am now officially a group of people. We like sushi, chinese food, and exotic dancers. Please send them to us post haste so that we may be appeased.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:22:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Rasatsu wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:People who think them showering us with SP somehow negates the initial argument for respecs clearly do no understand nor grasp the initial argument for respecs in the first place Yes, we are all aware that you pro-respec'ers are trying to destroy DUST.But CCP kinda wants this game to succeed, so they give out these bonus SP. Kinda in the way you go along with demands for pizza, but not a helicopter, when a failed bank robber is holding hostages. Drama Queen Says the group of people who are going to quit if they don't get respecs...
No arguments already, i see.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:31:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:StoneSmasher Drugga wrote:I took a break maybe a month ago. I browse the forums every so often to see when 1.8 hits. If we don't get a sp refund or respec I doubt I ever come back. Agree with yoy boyo, i already preparing myself for destiny. If CCP dont speed up on progression and start fulfill their given promises, i basicaly leave too. So... Good bye, I guess. DUST Fiend wrote:People who think them showering us with SP somehow negates the initial argument for respecs clearly do no understand nor grasp the initial argument for respecs in the first place Yes, we are all aware that you pro-respec'ers are trying to destroy DUST. But CCP kinda wants this game to succeed, so they give out these bonus SP. Kinda in the way you go along with demands for pizza, but not a helicopter, when a failed bank robber is holding hostages.
not sure if troll or just a tunnelvision scrub.
scout was weakened for no reason several times due to core mechanic changes. first speed was lowered accross the board long time ago because CCP could not fix hit detection properly without bandaids, aim assist got introcuded and super 360 degree scanners got released. pile of SP made unviable by CCPs lack of common sense.
so what, I adapted and skilled into minmatar logi with mass driver to be a fast hacking support. I dumped alot of SP into equipment and other stuff. mass driver got weaker and I skilled into CR. and what happens in 1.8? equipment gains a nerf accross the board and you receive a specialization bonus for the suit for only one type of equipment. to add more insult into this they will also change my minmatar hacking logi. the suit I skilled into will not longer be available.
so in short, I did everything right, I decided to skill into something and specialized, I lived with my choices and adapted on every change but CCP systematically makes my choices null and void and ruins it on every occassion with their bad decisions. every patch there is some kind of core mechanic that is changed affecting what I skilled into. this is not how EVE is supposed to work but on CCP Shanghais part it is all fine as long as kids throw money of their parents at this lobby shooter.
so if CCP really wants to succeed, maybe they can stop doing poor decision nonstop and apply some common sense? enough is enough. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:37:00 -
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rabble rabble rabble CCP rabble change rabble respec
Change is the only constant, do we make respecs also constant? |
Incin3rate
New Age Empire.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:37:00 -
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I wonder if any of it has to do with Sony. The what and when for releases. |
DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:39:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:rabble rabble rabble CCP rabble change rabble respec
Change is the only constant, do we make respecs also constant? Small % balance passes on targeted issues have never been an argument for respecs.
That is not what this is about, because it's not just a couple little things being brushed over to smooth out balance. We've beaten this to death though in the proper thread, so, on that note
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