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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:26:00 -
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Definitely, the speculative is what keeps my arse in the chair, but the actual I have to deal with every day. I personally don't sweat it I have points in all kinds of useless things and its fun to DUST them off from time to time and have a go. Hell I even have a plasma cannon fit.....with a flaylock lol |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:28:00 -
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I dont want a respect at this point just so we can purge the communty of these horrifcly whiny flavour of the month players
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:32:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I dont want a respect at this point just so we can purge the communty of these horrifcly whiny flavour of the month players FoTM players are a product of bad balance, not respecs when big changes like these come through (read: changes, not additions)
Plus, you aren't going to purge anything by pissing people off. All you do is create more Planetside bombers and detract from what little positive momentum the community has behind it.
If CCP builds a stable foundation and only occasionally does slight % passes on base material, legitimate arguments for respecs die. Fact.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:39:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I dont want a respect at this point just so we can purge the communty of these horrifcly whiny flavour of the month players
FoTM is made by CCP not players, try be more in too problem next time, before you start blaming others for CCPs failures. BTW in respec thread we already told respec ONLY for big implements/patches, not the instant one.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
2098
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:40:00 -
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honestly I'd just like to know whether they are doing it or not, I want a respec but since I had so much sp it really doesn't matter to me. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
343
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:42:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I dont want a respect at this point just so we can purge the communty of these horrifcly whiny flavour of the month players FoTM players are a product of bad balance, not respecs when big changes like these come through (read: changes, not additions) Plus, you aren't going to purge anything by pissing people off. All you do is create more Planetside bombers and detract from what little positive momentum the community has behind it. If CCP builds a stable foundation and only occasionally does slight % passes on base material, legitimate arguments for respecs die. Fact.
Are you tired by this scratched LP too. proRespecarians:"No argument against the respec i see." nonRespecarians:"Hmmm flavor..flavor of the month, it will be terible, the FoTM will be problem."
Its like i dont know i really dont thing they know about pure idea of respec.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:46:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I dont want a respect at this point just so we can purge the communty of these horrifcly whiny flavour of the month players FoTM players are a product of bad balance, not respecs when big changes like these come through (read: changes, not additions) Plus, you aren't going to purge anything by pissing people off. All you do is create more Planetside bombers and detract from what little positive momentum the community has behind it. If CCP builds a stable foundation and only occasionally does slight % passes on base material, legitimate arguments for respecs die. Fact. Are you tired by this scratched LP too. proRespecarians:"No argument against the respec i see." nonRespecarians:"Hmmm flavor..flavor of the month, it will be terible, the FoTM will be problem." Its like i dont know i really dont thing they know about pure idea of respec. I'm just amusing myself in the interim.
I have plans for both scenarios, this decision will not make or break DUST, but it will cause a shift in the player - CCP relationship, for better or worse.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:51:00 -
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I agree here, honestly im prepared for both too. But i thing more criticaly way, than your plans. I basical dont wnt start for sixth or fifth, hell i even dont know how many time i already start from scratch here
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:17:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Rasatsu wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:People who think them showering us with SP somehow negates the initial argument for respecs clearly do no understand nor grasp the initial argument for respecs in the first place Yes, we are all aware that you pro-respec'ers are trying to destroy DUST.But CCP kinda wants this game to succeed, so they give out these bonus SP. Kinda in the way you go along with demands for pizza, but not a helicopter, when a failed bank robber is holding hostages. Drama Queen Says the group of people who are going to quit if they don't get respecs... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:20:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Says the group of people who are going to quit if they don't get respecs... There's a difference between quitting, and taking an extended break.
Also, most people who would be that up in arms are currently or have been paying customers to this free game, so they tend to have more of an investment in how their SP is handled when CCP decides to just shake things up again.
Time will tell, patch is most likely on the 25th so we will know soon.
Also, I am now officially a group of people. We like sushi, chinese food, and exotic dancers. Please send them to us post haste so that we may be appeased.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:22:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Rasatsu wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:People who think them showering us with SP somehow negates the initial argument for respecs clearly do no understand nor grasp the initial argument for respecs in the first place Yes, we are all aware that you pro-respec'ers are trying to destroy DUST.But CCP kinda wants this game to succeed, so they give out these bonus SP. Kinda in the way you go along with demands for pizza, but not a helicopter, when a failed bank robber is holding hostages. Drama Queen Says the group of people who are going to quit if they don't get respecs...
No arguments already, i see.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1155
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:31:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:StoneSmasher Drugga wrote:I took a break maybe a month ago. I browse the forums every so often to see when 1.8 hits. If we don't get a sp refund or respec I doubt I ever come back. Agree with yoy boyo, i already preparing myself for destiny. If CCP dont speed up on progression and start fulfill their given promises, i basicaly leave too. So... Good bye, I guess. DUST Fiend wrote:People who think them showering us with SP somehow negates the initial argument for respecs clearly do no understand nor grasp the initial argument for respecs in the first place Yes, we are all aware that you pro-respec'ers are trying to destroy DUST. But CCP kinda wants this game to succeed, so they give out these bonus SP. Kinda in the way you go along with demands for pizza, but not a helicopter, when a failed bank robber is holding hostages.
not sure if troll or just a tunnelvision scrub.
scout was weakened for no reason several times due to core mechanic changes. first speed was lowered accross the board long time ago because CCP could not fix hit detection properly without bandaids, aim assist got introcuded and super 360 degree scanners got released. pile of SP made unviable by CCPs lack of common sense.
so what, I adapted and skilled into minmatar logi with mass driver to be a fast hacking support. I dumped alot of SP into equipment and other stuff. mass driver got weaker and I skilled into CR. and what happens in 1.8? equipment gains a nerf accross the board and you receive a specialization bonus for the suit for only one type of equipment. to add more insult into this they will also change my minmatar hacking logi. the suit I skilled into will not longer be available.
so in short, I did everything right, I decided to skill into something and specialized, I lived with my choices and adapted on every change but CCP systematically makes my choices null and void and ruins it on every occassion with their bad decisions. every patch there is some kind of core mechanic that is changed affecting what I skilled into. this is not how EVE is supposed to work but on CCP Shanghais part it is all fine as long as kids throw money of their parents at this lobby shooter.
so if CCP really wants to succeed, maybe they can stop doing poor decision nonstop and apply some common sense? enough is enough. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:37:00 -
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rabble rabble rabble CCP rabble change rabble respec
Change is the only constant, do we make respecs also constant? |
Incin3rate
New Age Empire.
55
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:37:00 -
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I wonder if any of it has to do with Sony. The what and when for releases. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:39:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:rabble rabble rabble CCP rabble change rabble respec
Change is the only constant, do we make respecs also constant? Small % balance passes on targeted issues have never been an argument for respecs.
That is not what this is about, because it's not just a couple little things being brushed over to smooth out balance. We've beaten this to death though in the proper thread, so, on that note
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