DUST Search - Why Do Swarm Launchers Still Lock?

Spkr4theDead wrote:

Cody Sietz wrote:

Obodiah Garro wrote:

It is useful, jesus christ you scrubs need to stop wanting everything handed to you on a plate, go out there with the expectation that you will work hard for the kill, but when you get it its worth it.

SL dont smite HAV like the wrath of god like they used to, but if your willing to put in the effort you will get some of the best kills you can hope for.

Also wtf drives a HAV expecting to get owned by the SL these days? Hate mail is delicious fellas. Leave the lock alone and give its range a punt back up to 400m, old tears will flow again. **** the dumbfire mode having that **** once in the game lifetime was enough.

edit: holy **** you know CCP stop giving a **** when you need to edit your own post for racism Shocked

Range isn't the problem, it's crazy low dmg and tanks being way to fast do anything worthwhile with a swarm.

Throw in the fact that swarms don't do enough dmg to stop shield regain, double hardeners and triple reps and you have...a useless weapon. Not to mention that swarms are losing dmg to shields, so it will be even harder to take out a soma with them.

But hey, screw facts, amirite?

So to make it easier for you to destroy tanks, they should be no faster than a heavy suit?

You must be pretty bad.

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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5530	Posted - 2014.03.09 19:08:00 - [1] - Quote They already have their Splash Damage nerfed to 19HP. Meaning an Ishukone Assault SL could only deal 114HP of Splash Damage, and the way the swarms release would mean you'd have to use the same techniques as the PLC if you want to score a direct hit. So why not return their dumfire capabilities? Against infantry they'd be a 3 round clip at best. lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 821	Posted - 2014.03.09 19:10:00 - [2] - Quote You want that super broke flaylock back right? Nemo me impune lacessit
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2595	Posted - 2014.03.09 19:12:00 - [3] - Quote Because that might make it somewhat useful "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 821	Posted - 2014.03.09 19:19:00 - [4] - Quote It is useful, jesus christ you scrubs need to stop wanting everything handed to you on a plate, go out there with the expectation that you will work hard for the kill, but when you get it its worth it. SL dont smite HAV like the wrath of god like they used to, but if your willing to put in the effort you will get some of the best kills you can hope for. Also wtf drives a HAV expecting to get owned by the SL these days? Hate mail is delicious fellas. Leave the lock alone and give its range a punt back up to 400m, old tears will flow again. ** the dumbfire mode having that once in the game lifetime was enough. edit: holy you know CCP stop giving a ** when you need to edit your own post for racism Nemo me impune lacessit
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13327	Posted - 2014.03.09 19:23:00 - [5] - Quote Old days without lock swarms insta buildings to death. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
PAXTON HAILFIRE Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 25	Posted - 2014.03.09 19:48:00 - [6] - Quote I dont know, i had 3 proximities set and an HAV rolled over 2, I AV naded it, then another SL and I unloaded on it. I have an adv SL. Dont know what the other blue had. Completely unloaded my ammo and it just sat there with its hardeners on. I'm a scrub, no doubt, but frick. Got it down to 1/8 its amor before the reds stomped my sidearm carrying self. I'm no dust stud, but switching to AV to help the team is pretty much suicide.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2595	Posted - 2014.03.09 19:50:00 - [7] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: It is useful, jesus christ you scrubs need to stop wanting everything handed to you on a plate, go out there with the expectation that you will work hard for the kill, but when you get it its worth it. SL dont smite HAV like the wrath of god like they used to, but if your willing to put in the effort you will get some of the best kills you can hope for. Also wtf drives a HAV expecting to get owned by the SL these days? Hate mail is delicious fellas. Leave the lock alone and give its range a punt back up to 400m, old tears will flow again. ** the dumbfire mode having that once in the game lifetime was enough. edit: holy you know CCP stop giving a ** when you need to edit your own post for racism Range isn't the problem, it's crazy low dmg and tanks being way to fast do anything worthwhile with a swarm. Throw in the fact that swarms don't do enough dmg to stop shield regain, double hardeners and triple reps and you have...a useless weapon. Not to mention that swarms are losing dmg to shields, so it will be even harder to take out a soma with them. But hey, screw facts, amirite? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1849	Posted - 2014.03.09 19:50:00 - [8] - Quote Are you forgetting about the direct damage? 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5017	Posted - 2014.03.09 19:52:00 - [9] - Quote Oh, you're Caldari. That explains why you proposed this. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
QRT30 Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN 17	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:02:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Old days without lock swarms insta buildings to death. I remember zoom in SL. QRT30 - logi QRT300 - heavy/commando Rave Technologies Inc.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1912	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:03:00 - [11] - Quote PAXTON HAILFIRE wrote: I dont know, i had 3 proximities set and an HAV rolled over 2, I AV naded it, then another SL and I unloaded on it. I have an adv SL. Dont know what the other blue had. Completely unloaded my ammo and it just sat there with its hardeners on. I'm a scrub, no doubt, but frick. Got it down to 1/8 its amor before the reds stomped my sidearm carrying self. I'm no dust stud, but switching to AV to help the team is pretty much suicide. Sooooooooo.... roll in a squad. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1912	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:03:00 - [12] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: It is useful, jesus christ you scrubs need to stop wanting everything handed to you on a plate, go out there with the expectation that you will work hard for the kill, but when you get it its worth it. SL dont smite HAV like the wrath of god like they used to, but if your willing to put in the effort you will get some of the best kills you can hope for. Also wtf drives a HAV expecting to get owned by the SL these days? Hate mail is delicious fellas. Leave the lock alone and give its range a punt back up to 400m, old tears will flow again. ** the dumbfire mode having that once in the game lifetime was enough. edit: holy you know CCP stop giving a ** when you need to edit your own post for racism Range isn't the problem, it's crazy low dmg and tanks being way to fast do anything worthwhile with a swarm. Throw in the fact that swarms don't do enough dmg to stop shield regain, double hardeners and triple reps and you have...a useless weapon. Not to mention that swarms are losing dmg to shields, so it will be even harder to take out a soma with them. But hey, screw facts, amirite? So to make it easier for you to destroy tanks, they should be no faster than a heavy suit? You must be pretty bad. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5532	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:13:00 - [13] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: It is useful, jesus christ you scrubs need to stop wanting everything handed to you on a plate, go out there with the expectation that you will work hard for the kill, but when you get it its worth it. SL dont smite HAV like the wrath of god like they used to, but if your willing to put in the effort you will get some of the best kills you can hope for. Also wtf drives a HAV expecting to get owned by the SL these days? Hate mail is delicious fellas. Leave the lock alone and give its range a punt back up to 400m, old tears will flow again. ** the dumbfire mode having that once in the game lifetime was enough. edit: holy you know CCP stop giving a ** when you need to edit your own post for racism So you think Swarms are useful huh? Care to put a 50m wager on that? Your Swarms vs. My Gunnlogi. Implying that tankers work hard for the kill lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5532	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:14:00 - [14] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Oh, you're Caldari. That explains why you proposed this. Oh you're Gallente That explains why your against this. lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5532	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:16:00 - [15] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Are you forgetting about the direct damage? The direct damage is irrelevant, as the Swarm has very little dispersion. Scoring a direct hit with the SL would be no different than scoring a direct hit with the PLC. lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2600	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:16:00 - [16] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: It is useful, jesus christ you scrubs need to stop wanting everything handed to you on a plate, go out there with the expectation that you will work hard for the kill, but when you get it its worth it. SL dont smite HAV like the wrath of god like they used to, but if your willing to put in the effort you will get some of the best kills you can hope for. Also wtf drives a HAV expecting to get owned by the SL these days? Hate mail is delicious fellas. Leave the lock alone and give its range a punt back up to 400m, old tears will flow again. ** the dumbfire mode having that once in the game lifetime was enough. edit: holy you know CCP stop giving a ** when you need to edit your own post for racism Range isn't the problem, it's crazy low dmg and tanks being way to fast do anything worthwhile with a swarm. Throw in the fact that swarms don't do enough dmg to stop shield regain, double hardeners and triple reps and you have...a useless weapon. Not to mention that swarms are losing dmg to shields, so it will be even harder to take out a soma with them. But hey, screw facts, amirite? So to make it easier for you to destroy tanks, they should be no faster than a heavy suit? You must be pretty bad. I kill sparks with swarms "OH MY GAWD, GIT GEWED AND STOP USING YOUR CRUTCH!" -Sparks Cant kill sparks with swarms "OH MY GAWD! GIT ON MY LEVEL" -Sparks "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2600	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:19:00 - [17] - Quote Atiim wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Oh, you're Caldari. That explains why you proposed this. Oh you're Gallente That explains why your against this. Hey, I'm gallente... "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5533	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:28:00 - [18] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Atiim wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Oh, you're Caldari. That explains why you proposed this. Oh you're Gallente That explains why your against this. Hey, I'm gallente... But your not an extremist. lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5018	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:29:00 - [19] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Atiim wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Oh, you're Caldari. That explains why you proposed this. Oh you're Gallente That explains why your against this. Hey, I'm gallente... and we're pro-common sense. Would you like to know more about our Lord and Savior, Game Balance? He is a truly fair and loving God. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Scheherazade VII 331	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:32:00 - [20] - Quote Wirykomi swarm launcher, that is all. Spelled wrong, but that is all. if I see ANY swarm launcher in the killfeed, it's that one.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5535	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:33:00 - [21] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: and we're pro-common sense. Would you like to know more about our Lord and Savior, Game Balance? He is a truly fair and loving God. Well considering how your "lord" has yet to present anything as to how this would be imbalanced, no I would not. Your "lord" is about as false as the Amarrian's lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5019	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:38:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: and we're pro-common sense. Would you like to know more about our Lord and Savior, Game Balance? He is a truly fair and loving God. Well considering how your "lord" has yet to present anything as to how this would be imbalanced, no I would not. Your "lord" is about as false as the Amarrian's The Truth.....it hurts. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5535	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:44:00 - [23] - Quote Scheherazade VII wrote: Wirykomi swarm launcher, that is all. Spelled wrong, but that is all. if I see ANY swarm launcher in the killfeed, it's that one. This is why we can't have nice things. Also lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2891	Posted - 2014.03.09 21:07:00 - [24] - Quote This would be funny as **** It would prob be turned into the old AI weapon With no lock on most wouldnt even be able to hit a tank let alone trying to hit a DS Intelligence is OP
CeCo Macino Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2014.03.09 21:14:00 - [25] - Quote Atiim wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Atiim wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Oh, you're Caldari. That explains why you proposed this. Oh you're Gallente That explains why your against this. Hey, I'm gallente... But your not an extremist. Hes not an extremist, kirk is just little childish boyo Support - Tactician/Support Sebiestor - Tinker
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 4731	Posted - 2014.03.09 21:36:00 - [26] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Old days without lock swarms insta buildings to death. All of us from Replication remember the days of dumbfire Swarms. Never Forget Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1965	Posted - 2014.03.09 21:55:00 - [27] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: It is useful, jesus christ you scrubs need to stop wanting everything handed to you on a plate, go out there with the expectation that you will work hard for the kill, but when you get it its worth it. SL dont smite HAV like the wrath of god like they used to, but if your willing to put in the effort you will get some of the best kills you can hope for. Also wtf drives a HAV expecting to get owned by the SL these days? Hate mail is delicious fellas. Leave the lock alone and give its range a punt back up to 400m, old tears will flow again. ** the dumbfire mode having that once in the game lifetime was enough. edit: holy you know CCP stop giving a ** when you need to edit your own post for racism Range isn't the problem, it's crazy low dmg and tanks being way to fast do anything worthwhile with a swarm. Throw in the fact that swarms don't do enough dmg to stop shield regain, double hardeners and triple reps and you have...a useless weapon. Not to mention that swarms are losing dmg to shields, so it will be even harder to take out a soma with them. But hey, screw facts, amirite? So to make it easier for you to destroy tanks, they should be no faster than a heavy suit? You must be pretty bad. No, but I think it MAY be impractical to build every HAV we buy around a Lamborghini Italia. When tanks can just run away at a drop of a hat and then return 5 seconds later because lolPassive Reps, it makes killing them nigh impossible, as they can just run off, rep back what little they lost because stacked hardeners, and come back in 5 seconds to trololololo the objective. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 831	Posted - 2014.03.09 22:04:00 - [28] - Quote When a maddy can run 3 reps and OUTREP my CBR7 swarms on an advanced commando(equivelent to reload V) along with a complex damage mod(equivelent to prof III) i shot 3 clips at him, and he sat there, staring at me as i pelted him, his HP was fully repped by the time my 2nd swarm even locked, let alone actually leave the chamber. No SP refund=academy stomping FOR DAYYZ Proud owner of 69 'Fleshriver' Nk's. No i don't buy AUR
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5022	Posted - 2014.03.09 22:11:00 - [29] - Quote CeCo Macino wrote: Hes not an extremist, kirk is just little childish boyo It's just an intense hatred for all things Caldari. Funny story, back in Modu's Private Trials I was originally Minmitar but then I saw CCP's blatant favoritism for the Caldari with their constant stream of easy mode weapons. I knew Gallente were Enemies with the State so thus I became Sgt Kirk. Challenger of all things OP/Caldari/CCP. (All those words are interchangeable) Surpsingly my EVE Character Bio has no mention of my hatred for Caldari but more so my incontent with the Corrupt Federation. Each one still hates the Caldari just as equally though. The more you know. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Patrick57 5901	Posted - 2014.03.09 22:20:00 - [30] - Quote Atiim wrote: They already have they Splash Damage nerfed ta 19HP. Meanin a Ishukone Assault SL could only deal 114HP of Splash Damage, n' tha way tha swarms release would mean you'd gotta use tha same steez as tha PLC if you wanna score a gangbangin' finger-lickin' direct hit. So why not return they dumfire capabilities, biatch? Against infantry they'd be PLCs wit a 3 round clip at best.



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