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Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 938	Posted - 2014.03.09 22:27:00 - [31] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: It is useful, jesus christ you scrubs need to stop wanting everything handed to you on a plate, go out there with the expectation that you will work hard for the kill, but when you get it its worth it. SL dont smite HAV like the wrath of god like they used to, but if your willing to put in the effort you will get some of the best kills you can hope for. Also wtf drives a HAV expecting to get owned by the SL these days? Hate mail is delicious fellas. Leave the lock alone and give its range a punt back up to 400m, old tears will flow again. ** the dumbfire mode having that once in the game lifetime was enough. edit: holy you know CCP stop giving a ** when you need to edit your own post for racism Oh def... I see it... so worth it... Died five time and finally killed that garbage fit sica with proto SL - ah yess! the moment of glory! Oh wait, here is another RDV fielding a new sica.... Lol, definitely all that effort and pain is worth the OMG awesome reward of killing a militia tank driven by a noob. PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
Speedy McFaster Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2014.03.09 23:21:00 - [32] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: PAXTON HAILFIRE wrote: I dont know, i had 3 proximities set and an HAV rolled over 2, I AV naded it, then another SL and I unloaded on it. I have an adv SL. Dont know what the other blue had. Completely unloaded my ammo and it just sat there with its hardeners on. I'm a scrub, no doubt, but frick. Got it down to 1/8 its amor before the reds stomped my sidearm carrying self. I'm no dust stud, but switching to AV to help the team is pretty much suicide. Sooooooooo.... roll in a squad. You wont be saying that when its YOUR tank getting blown up. If you get near the 7+ people I'm repping I'll rip your face off.
CeCo Macino Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2014.03.09 23:32:00 - [33] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: CeCo Macino wrote: Hes not an extremist, kirk is just little childish boyo It's just an intense hatred for all things Caldari. Funny story, back in Modu's Private Trials I was originally Minmitar but then I saw CCP's blatant favoritism for the Caldari with their constant stream of easy mode weapons. I knew Gallente were Enemies with the State so thus I became Sgt Kirk. Challenger of all things OP/Caldari/CCP. (All those words are interchangeable) Surpsingly my EVE Character Bio has no mention of my hatred for Caldari but more so my incontent with the Corrupt Federation. Each one still hates the Caldari just as equally though. The more you know. I know you too much boyo Support - Tactician/Support Sebiestor - Tinker
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 447	Posted - 2014.03.09 23:38:00 - [34] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: PAXTON HAILFIRE wrote: I dont know, i had 3 proximities set and an HAV rolled over 2, I AV naded it, then another SL and I unloaded on it. I have an adv SL. Dont know what the other blue had. Completely unloaded my ammo and it just sat there with its hardeners on. I'm a scrub, no doubt, but frick. Got it down to 1/8 its amor before the reds stomped my sidearm carrying self. I'm no dust stud, but switching to AV to help the team is pretty much suicide. Sooooooooo.... roll in a squad. sounds like he was, still did **** all.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 398	Posted - 2014.03.09 23:39:00 - [35] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: It is useful, jesus christ you scrubs need to stop wanting everything handed to you on a plate, go out there with the expectation that you will work hard for the kill, but when you get it its worth it. SL dont smite HAV like the wrath of god like they used to, but if your willing to put in the effort you will get some of the best kills you can hope for. Also wtf drives a HAV expecting to get owned by the SL these days? Hate mail is delicious fellas. Leave the lock alone and give its range a punt back up to 400m, old tears will flow again. ** the dumbfire mode having that once in the game lifetime was enough. edit: holy you know CCP stop giving a ** when you need to edit your own post for racism Couldn't have said it better but after reading the topic , this seems like a troll .. I mean what positive could have come from this or how would I have gotten behind this idea ? No way. They lock for tracking guidance. Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
Christiphoros von Poe Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 189	Posted - 2014.03.09 23:48:00 - [36] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19063 (1) "Exile" Assault Rifle reserved for: Fire of Prometheus Uprising->Replication->E3->Codex->Chromosome->Uprising->???
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 211	Posted - 2014.03.09 23:59:00 - [37] - Quote u mean "why do swarm launchers still REQUIRE lock?" coz it is quite obvious why they lock on. Less QQ more PewPew
Ziero01 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 18	Posted - 2014.03.22 02:04:00 - [38] - Quote Personally, I'm a fan of the lock on feature as it allows me to bank shots around corners and over hills where tanks don't have a direct line of fire. It's literally the only advantage I have as a Swarm user (proficiency II iirc) as I do agree they're pretty much useless now. You need multiple Swarmers attacking a lesser quality tank with a bad pilot to actually take em out. Hell, I have trouble taking out LAVs and Turrets now, and Dropships can just fly away and aren't even threatened by Swarms anymore. That said, I can't think of any specific boosts to give to Swarms across the board to make them more useful but keep them balanced. I do however have suggestions to make the variant types actually viable choices to equip instead of being the absolute wastes of code they are now. As of right now the Specialist Type has lower equip requirements, but increased lock on times and the Assault variant allows for locking on of two different targets with increased equip costs (iirc). But to me, both of these are non-choices, lock on is too long as is, and I need every missile to hit a single target to even hope to damage it. I think some better choices would be to make the Assault version have faster lock times and missile speeds at increased costs (maybe even added range) and make a Breach version with less missiles per shot, but more damage per missile (good for closer range ambushes as each missile has more bang for the buck...literally). I love using my Swarms, I just wish they were actually worth using.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2244	Posted - 2014.03.22 02:24:00 - [39] - Quote Christiphoros von Poe wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19063 I linked to that topic for laughs. lol@Bad Furry. So Atiim, should the SL be allowed to dumbfire, what niche then has the shotgun? ak.0 4 LYFE Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
Byozuma Kegawa Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 179	Posted - 2014.03.22 02:32:00 - [40] - Quote Thing about dumbfire is you have to remember that swarms spread out on launch making anything directly in front of you for... 10-20 yd. complete safe. Assuming they even curve back in. No, locking on makes the swarms generally viable. What it REALLY needs is a speed boost in the projectiles. Not a huge boost, maybe faster than an unmodded dropship. Each swarm is a small aircraft, after all, with little drag and very little weight. The fact they travel so slow compared to bigger, bulkier targets like dropships and LAVs is pretty sad. Modern conventional handheld rocket munitions are faster than swarms. It's the time between lock and hit that's killing their effectiveness more than their damage.



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