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Mr Attractive Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.03.06 14:51:00 - [1] - Quote Because us new players have no single fuckin chance in hell of doing well. Look at your fuckin starter fits CCP. Ive got 130 armor,170 shield, and a militia AR. I'm going up against heavies with 750 shield and 1000 armor. I can fuckin LAY into them with an entire clip, and if they turn around and EVEN SNEEZE at me I'm dead quicker then I can blink. You wanna know why your game is trash? Because theres 8 of these heavies rolling around in a goddamn pack while my team is spead out over a mile wide map thats a barren fuckin wasteland with 1980s graphics. Meanwhile don't forget the fuckin tanks. Your "anti armor" fit with 6 rockets can even kill a fuckin jeep or a turret let alone a goddamn tank that can easily sponge all 6 shots without even a goddamn hardener, and again, kill you with a fuckin sneeze. You want new players? HOW ABOUT MAKING IT SO MILITIA ISNT TOTALLY FUCKIN USELESS TRASH THAT DOESN'T STAND A SINGLE FUCKIN CHANCE IN HELL AT EVEN KILLING ANYTHING, AND THAT YOU DON'T GET FUCKIN INSTA KILLED BY ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Now then. Go **** yourselves and take your garbage game and your down syndrome made balance, and shove it up your asses. I'll never play this trash again.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1590	Posted - 2014.03.06 14:53:00 - [2] - Quote You're not a new player.
Ripley Riley 871	Posted - 2014.03.06 14:55:00 - [3] - Quote It's almost like CCP wants you to find some kind of group of players in-game to lean on for support. Some kind of guild, but more contemporary. Perhaps you are meant to join into 6 man teams (I haven't decided what to call them yet) and coordinate your attacks; effectively increasing your power through tactics. Man, I hope something like that gets implemented one day. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3814	Posted - 2014.03.06 14:57:00 - [4] - Quote WARNING BITTER VET ALT DETECTED! WARNING I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 66	Posted - 2014.03.06 14:59:00 - [5] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: WARNING BITTER VET ALT DETECTED! WARNING Alert, bitter vet, critical, alert, bitter vet critical...
Cpl Foster USMC Alpha Response Command 688	Posted - 2014.03.06 15:00:00 - [6] - Quote Mr Attractive just got ugly on ya azz..!!!!! BOOM-BANG-Ba-ZINGA....!!!!! whatcha gonna do about that DUST....??? Forum Ban over..!!---> I feel like a "Made Man" now.....
Asher Night Dark Tengu 497	Posted - 2014.03.06 15:05:00 - [7] - Quote Mr Attractive wrote: Because us new players have no single fuckin chance in hell of doing well. Look at your fuckin starter fits CCP. Ive got 130 armor,170 shield, and a militia AR. I'm going up against heavies with 750 shield and 1000 armor. I can fuckin LAY into them with an entire clip, and if they turn around and EVEN SNEEZE at me I'm dead quicker then I can blink. You wanna know why your game is trash? Because theres 8 of these heavies rolling around in a goddamn pack while my team is spead out over a mile wide map thats a barren fuckin wasteland with 1980s graphics. Meanwhile don't forget the fuckin tanks. Your "anti armor" fit with 6 rockets can even kill a fuckin jeep or a turret let alone a goddamn tank that can easily sponge all 6 shots without even a goddamn hardener, and again, kill you with a fuckin sneeze. You want new players? HOW ABOUT MAKING IT SO MILITIA ISNT TOTALLY FUCKIN USELESS TRASH THAT DOESN'T STAND A SINGLE FUCKIN CHANCE IN HELL AT EVEN KILLING ANYTHING, AND THAT YOU DON'T GET FUCKIN INSTA KILLED BY ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Now then. Go **** yourselves and take your garbage game and your down syndrome made balance, and shove it up your asses. I'll never play this trash again. A lot of people are going to take this chance to ridicule you, but I understand why you're upset. The starter fits are pretty useless against enemies playing in a squad, and the game in general has a steep learning curve for new players. If you do choose to play this game again I have some advice... Try to join an active corp, fast. Don't play Ambush yet. You don't have the killing capacity for this deathmatch mode. Play Domination or better yet, Skirmish and just defend objectives. It's more active defending a lone, quiet objective than you would think, and you won't get caught off guard because the enemy is coming to you. Don't bother with heavies unless you Flux grenade them (destroys shields instantly), remote explosive them as they come around a corner, shotgun them from behind, or have back up. Don't atack them from the front. Fighting a heavy requires more srategy than fighting AS a heavy. Heavies are easy mode, I don't care what anyone says. If you have a hard time playing as a heavy, then you suck at life, and probably can't play as anything. 100% Tactical Scout Corporation
LT Dans Legs Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 293	Posted - 2014.03.06 15:46:00 - [8] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: It's almost like CCP wants you to find some kind of group of players in-game to lean on for support. Some kind of guild, but more contemporary. Perhaps you are meant to join into 6 man teams (I haven't decided what to call them yet) and coordinate your attacks; effectively increasing your power through tactics. Man, I hope something like that gets implemented one day. Lmao. Right. They should be brainstorming for multiplayer dlc. Oh and put it online so it could be even more than 2 player.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2068	Posted - 2014.03.06 15:52:00 - [9] - Quote Mr Attractive wrote: Because us new players have no single fuckin chance in hell of doing well. Look at your fuckin starter fits CCP. Ive got 130 armor,170 shield, and a militia AR. I'm going up against heavies with 750 shield and 1000 armor. I can fuckin LAY into them with an entire clip, and if they turn around and EVEN SNEEZE at me I'm dead quicker then I can blink. You wanna know why your game is trash? Because theres 8 of these heavies rolling around in a goddamn pack while my team is spead out over a mile wide map thats a barren fuckin wasteland with 1980s graphics. Meanwhile don't forget the fuckin tanks. Your "anti armor" fit with 6 rockets can even kill a fuckin jeep or a turret let alone a goddamn tank that can easily sponge all 6 shots without even a goddamn hardener, and again, kill you with a fuckin sneeze. You want new players? HOW ABOUT MAKING IT SO MILITIA ISNT TOTALLY FUCKIN USELESS TRASH THAT DOESN'T STAND A SINGLE FUCKIN CHANCE IN HELL AT EVEN KILLING ANYTHING, AND THAT YOU DON'T GET FUCKIN INSTA KILLED BY ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Now then. Go **** yourselves and take your garbage game and your down syndrome made balance, and shove it up your asses. I'll never play this trash again. if you were new i'd suggest spending 100k sp on getting remotes, you'll cost a lot of proto's their gear for that minor investment.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 945	Posted - 2014.03.06 15:55:00 - [10] - Quote Vet or not, that man has a point. Thats pretty much what all of my real life mates have said about this game. I hyped the game up, got a few of them to try it. You want to know how many of them still play? - Zero Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!

Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 780	Posted - 2014.03.06 15:55:00 - [11] - Quote Hes called Mr Attractive yet hes got a matari avatar. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Nemo me impune lacessit
Be'e Po Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2014.03.06 15:56:00 - [12] - Quote I've been playing for 5 days, all of it solo. You know what... I grabbed an Amarr militia heavy suit, militia forge gun, and kill those heavies in a few charged shots. It's not perfect, but it works well enough. Once I get a better Mic, I'll join squads. Yet if i can enjoy the game and kill heavies, I doubt others should,have that much of a problem. And when I get on tonight, i'll have enough skill points for amarr heavy dropsuit 1 and enough to unlock the machine gun. and in all honesty, even getting killed several times per match, i still make enough isk to profite.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 546	Posted - 2014.03.06 16:33:00 - [13] - Quote Having characters at the high, med and low end of SP I understand quite clearly understand where you are coming from. When militia guns can barely scratch the shields of some suits and they turn their pro gear on you with complex damage mods you have no chance against it. Tiered gear in a match that does not support the tiers will lead to this sort of thing from happening. PC is a twisted parody allowing unless farming of ISK and WP/SP. FW doesn't feel like you're actually doing anything as there is no in game lore to support those battles. So all people really have is just rolling through public matches in 6-12 man teams in pro gear. My suggestion is not a popular one to split the match making militia/std and adv/pro. Can't take a fitting into those matches if it falls outside the meta range. Once all factors of gear have been removed then it comes down to the skill of the players. You can say team work is OP but when those newer players squad up those pro guns still cut them down even before they get close to coordinate with each other to bring down those proto heavies. But I've had these discussions before and anything that removes a veteran players edge is frowned on. Why do you think Eve has remained relatively unchanged? CCP cannot make changes to the game because their veteran players do not want their edge taken away. The same is becoming of Dust.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1735	Posted - 2014.03.06 16:49:00 - [14] - Quote Be'e Po wrote: I've been playing for 5 days, all of it solo. You know what... I grabbed an Amarr militia heavy suit, militia forge gun, and kill those heavies in a few charged shots. It's not perfect, but it works well enough. Once I get a better Mic, I'll join squads. Yet if i can enjoy the game and kill heavies, I doubt others should,have that much of a problem. And when I get on tonight, i'll have enough skill points for amarr heavy dropsuit 1 and enough to unlock the machine gun. and in all honesty, even getting killed several times per match, i still make enough isk to profite. Callin' it now - you will be one of the ones who are not eaten to feed the rest of the pack. Welcome to New Eden. I support SP rollover.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1550	Posted - 2014.03.06 16:55:00 - [15] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: WARNING BITTER VET ALT DETECTED! WARNING Nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure. Drop it like its hat.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 1030	Posted - 2014.03.06 17:03:00 - [16] - Quote Mr Attractive wrote: Because us new players have no single fuckin chance in hell of doing well. Look at your fuckin starter fits CCP. Ive got 130 armor,170 shield, and a militia AR. I'm going up against heavies with 750 shield and 1000 armor. I can fuckin LAY into them with an entire clip, and if they turn around and EVEN SNEEZE at me I'm dead quicker then I can blink. You wanna know why your game is trash? Because theres 8 of these heavies rolling around in a goddamn pack while my team is spead out over a mile wide map thats a barren fuckin wasteland with 1980s graphics. Meanwhile don't forget the fuckin tanks. Your "anti armor" fit with 6 rockets can even kill a fuckin jeep or a turret let alone a goddamn tank that can easily sponge all 6 shots without even a goddamn hardener, and again, kill you with a fuckin sneeze. You want new players? HOW ABOUT MAKING IT SO MILITIA ISNT TOTALLY FUCKIN USELESS TRASH THAT DOESN'T STAND A SINGLE FUCKIN CHANCE IN HELL AT EVEN KILLING ANYTHING, AND THAT YOU DON'T GET FUCKIN INSTA KILLED BY ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Now then. Go **** yourselves and take your garbage game and your down syndrome made balance, and shove it up your asses. I'll never play this trash again. Welp you got a point. You don't seem entirely new but a vet would defend proto more often than not. It's unfortunate and bad design that these low level items are completely useless, and it's only magnified against squads. Even a damn good player won't stand a chance against real squads or random proto groups til he gets 700+EHP with a proto weapon on whatever suit. Your post is making me facepalm very hard right now.
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 201	Posted - 2014.03.06 17:04:00 - [17] - Quote Mr Attractive wrote: Because us new players have no single fuckin chance in hell of doing well. Look at your fuckin starter fits CCP. Ive got 130 armor,170 shield, and a militia AR. I'm going up against heavies with 750 shield and 1000 armor. I can fuckin LAY into them with an entire clip, and if they turn around and EVEN SNEEZE at me I'm dead quicker then I can blink. You wanna know why your game is trash? Because theres 8 of these heavies rolling around in a goddamn pack while my team is spead out over a mile wide map thats a barren fuckin wasteland with 1980s graphics. Meanwhile don't forget the fuckin tanks. Your "anti armor" fit with 6 rockets can even kill a fuckin jeep or a turret let alone a goddamn tank that can easily sponge all 6 shots without even a goddamn hardener, and again, kill you with a fuckin sneeze. You want new players? HOW ABOUT MAKING IT SO MILITIA ISNT TOTALLY FUCKIN USELESS TRASH THAT DOESN'T STAND A SINGLE FUCKIN CHANCE IN HELL AT EVEN KILLING ANYTHING, AND THAT YOU DON'T GET FUCKIN INSTA KILLED BY ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Now then. Go **** yourselves and take your garbage game and your down syndrome made balance, and shove it up your asses. I'll never play this trash again. I would ask if I could have your ISK but you probably don't have any left from your foolish attempts to fight eight heavies solo.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1093	Posted - 2014.03.06 17:06:00 - [18] - Quote Mr Attractive wrote: Because us new players have no single fuckin chance in hell of doing well. Look at your fuckin starter fits CCP. Ive got 130 armor,170 shield, and a militia AR. I'm going up against heavies with 750 shield and 1000 armor. I can fuckin LAY into them with an entire clip, and if they turn around and EVEN SNEEZE at me I'm dead quicker then I can blink. You wanna know why your game is trash? Because theres 8 of these heavies rolling around in a goddamn pack while my team is spead out over a mile wide map thats a barren fuckin wasteland with 1980s graphics. Meanwhile don't forget the fuckin tanks. Your "anti armor" fit with 6 rockets can even kill a fuckin jeep or a turret let alone a goddamn tank that can easily sponge all 6 shots without even a goddamn hardener, and again, kill you with a fuckin sneeze. You want new players? HOW ABOUT MAKING IT SO MILITIA ISNT TOTALLY FUCKIN USELESS TRASH THAT DOESN'T STAND A SINGLE FUCKIN CHANCE IN HELL AT EVEN KILLING ANYTHING, AND THAT YOU DON'T GET FUCKIN INSTA KILLED BY ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Now then. Go **** yourselves and take your garbage game and your down syndrome made balance, and shove it up your asses. I'll never play this trash again. C.O.D. called, they say they miss you... CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
ERYN Warchild Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 30	Posted - 2014.03.06 17:08:00 - [19] - Quote \_/ please, no spillage I don't want tear stains on my dropsuit.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 240	Posted - 2014.03.06 17:10:00 - [20] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Mr Attractive wrote: Because us new players have no single fuckin chance in hell of doing well. Look at your fuckin starter fits CCP. Ive got 130 armor,170 shield, and a militia AR. I'm going up against heavies with 750 shield and 1000 armor. I can fuckin LAY into them with an entire clip, and if they turn around and EVEN SNEEZE at me I'm dead quicker then I can blink. You wanna know why your game is trash? Because theres 8 of these heavies rolling around in a goddamn pack while my team is spead out over a mile wide map thats a barren fuckin wasteland with 1980s graphics. Meanwhile don't forget the fuckin tanks. Your "anti armor" fit with 6 rockets can even kill a fuckin jeep or a turret let alone a goddamn tank that can easily sponge all 6 shots without even a goddamn hardener, and again, kill you with a fuckin sneeze. You want new players? HOW ABOUT MAKING IT SO MILITIA ISNT TOTALLY FUCKIN USELESS TRASH THAT DOESN'T STAND A SINGLE FUCKIN CHANCE IN HELL AT EVEN KILLING ANYTHING, AND THAT YOU DON'T GET FUCKIN INSTA KILLED BY ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Now then. Go **** yourselves and take your garbage game and your down syndrome made balance, and shove it up your asses. I'll never play this trash again. Welp you got a point. You don't seem entirely new but a vet would defend proto more often than not. It's unfortunate and bad design that these low level items are completely useless, and it's only magnified against squads. Even a damn good player won't stand a chance against real squads or random proto groups til he gets 700+EHP with a proto weapon on whatever suit. 700+ EHP? Easy peasy Gallente starter fit + 3 militia plates.

THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 1031	Posted - 2014.03.06 17:16:00 - [21] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Mr Attractive wrote: Because us new players have no single fuckin chance in hell of doing well. Look at your fuckin starter fits CCP. Ive got 130 armor,170 shield, and a militia AR. I'm going up against heavies with 750 shield and 1000 armor. I can fuckin LAY into them with an entire clip, and if they turn around and EVEN SNEEZE at me I'm dead quicker then I can blink. You wanna know why your game is trash? Because theres 8 of these heavies rolling around in a goddamn pack while my team is spead out over a mile wide map thats a barren fuckin wasteland with 1980s graphics. Meanwhile don't forget the fuckin tanks. Your "anti armor" fit with 6 rockets can even kill a fuckin jeep or a turret let alone a goddamn tank that can easily sponge all 6 shots without even a goddamn hardener, and again, kill you with a fuckin sneeze. You want new players? HOW ABOUT MAKING IT SO MILITIA ISNT TOTALLY FUCKIN USELESS TRASH THAT DOESN'T STAND A SINGLE FUCKIN CHANCE IN HELL AT EVEN KILLING ANYTHING, AND THAT YOU DON'T GET FUCKIN INSTA KILLED BY ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Now then. Go ** yourselves and take your garbage game and your down syndrome made balance, and shove it up your asses. I'll never play this trash again. Welp you got a point. You don't seem entirely new but a vet would defend proto more often than not. It's unfortunate and bad design that these low level items are completely useless, and it's only magnified against squads. Even a damn good player won't stand a chance against real squads or random proto groups til he gets 700+EHP with a proto weapon on whatever suit. 700+ EHP? Easy peasy Gallente starter fit + 3 militia plates. Thats 630 roughly( i can check but too lazy) with max skills. but he wont have enough SP to have any core upgrades, any proto weapon, or even the pg/cpu to fit the weapon. The main problem is that you need proficiencies or a proto rifle to get kills now, and having the 700+EHP helps you survive for 1 second to get a kill. But with a 500k SP character, you better have put all of it into a FOTM or you're totally f*ed. Your post is making me facepalm very hard right now.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 159	Posted - 2014.03.06 17:29:00 - [22] - Quote Asher Night wrote: Mr Attractive wrote: Because us new players have no single fuckin chance in hell of doing well. Look at your fuckin starter fits CCP. Ive got 130 armor,170 shield, and a militia AR. I'm going up against heavies with 750 shield and 1000 armor. I can fuckin LAY into them with an entire clip, and if they turn around and EVEN SNEEZE at me I'm dead quicker then I can blink. You wanna know why your game is trash? Because theres 8 of these heavies rolling around in a goddamn pack while my team is spead out over a mile wide map thats a barren fuckin wasteland with 1980s graphics. Meanwhile don't forget the fuckin tanks. Your "anti armor" fit with 6 rockets can even kill a fuckin jeep or a turret let alone a goddamn tank that can easily sponge all 6 shots without even a goddamn hardener, and again, kill you with a fuckin sneeze. You want new players? HOW ABOUT MAKING IT SO MILITIA ISNT TOTALLY FUCKIN USELESS TRASH THAT DOESN'T STAND A SINGLE FUCKIN CHANCE IN HELL AT EVEN KILLING ANYTHING, AND THAT YOU DON'T GET FUCKIN INSTA KILLED BY ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Now then. Go **** yourselves and take your garbage game and your down syndrome made balance, and shove it up your asses. I'll never play this trash again. A lot of people are going to take this chance to ridicule you, but I understand why you're upset. The starter fits are pretty useless against enemies playing in a squad, and the game in general has a steep learning curve for new players. If you do choose to play this game again I have some advice... Try to join an active corp, fast. Don't play Ambush yet. You don't have the killing capacity for this deathmatch mode. Play Domination or better yet, Skirmish and just defend objectives. It's more active defending a lone, quiet objective than you would think, and you won't get caught off guard because the enemy is coming to you. Don't bother with heavies unless you Flux grenade them (destroys shields instantly), remote explosive them as they come around a corner, shotgun them from behind, or have back up. Don't atack them from the front. Fighting a heavy requires more srategy than fighting AS a heavy. Heavies are easy mode, I don't care what anyone says. If you have a hard time playing as a heavy, then you suck at life, and probably can't play as anything. I suck at playing heavy.... So I use a logi and a rep tool Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1197	Posted - 2014.03.06 17:36:00 - [23] - Quote Mr Attractive wrote: Because us new players have no single fuckin chance in hell of doing well. Look at your fuckin starter fits CCP. Ive got 130 armor,170 shield, and a militia AR. I'm going up against heavies with 750 shield and 1000 armor. I can fuckin LAY into them with an entire clip, and if they turn around and EVEN SNEEZE at me I'm dead quicker then I can blink. You wanna know why your game is trash? Because theres 8 of these heavies rolling around in a goddamn pack while my team is spead out over a mile wide map thats a barren fuckin wasteland with 1980s graphics. Meanwhile don't forget the fuckin tanks. Your "anti armor" fit with 6 rockets can even kill a fuckin jeep or a turret let alone a goddamn tank that can easily sponge all 6 shots without even a goddamn hardener, and again, kill you with a fuckin sneeze. You want new players? HOW ABOUT MAKING IT SO MILITIA ISNT TOTALLY FUCKIN USELESS TRASH THAT DOESN'T STAND A SINGLE FUCKIN CHANCE IN HELL AT EVEN KILLING ANYTHING, AND THAT YOU DON'T GET FUCKIN INSTA KILLED BY ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Now then. Go **** yourselves and take your garbage game and your down syndrome made balance, and shove it up your asses. I'll never play this trash again. You got killed by a guy who slaps two complex extenders and three plates on a fat suit? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! And you seriously expect to solo tanks with hobo gear? Oh please stop, you're too funny. Also, the squad limit is six. And who the heck said we wanted new players? beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
Deltahawk Durango Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 137	Posted - 2014.03.06 17:44:00 - [24] - Quote i got 4 of my buddies to install the game during christmas holidays, told them to make a character and then proceed to uninstall the game... one of the great features of this game is passive SP accumulation... their plan is to play this game in november when they have 8 mil SP... if the game is too difficult starting out, uninstall for now and come back later... we'll still be here and some of us will help you out on the battlefield... I don't believe in an eye for an eye... I believe in two eyes for an eye!
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 17	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:05:00 - [25] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: It's almost like CCP wants you to find some kind of group of players in-game to lean on for support. Some kind of guild, but more contemporary. Perhaps you are meant to join into 6 man teams (I haven't decided what to call them yet) and coordinate your attacks; effectively increasing your power through tactics. Man, I hope something like that gets implemented one day. I seriously want NOTHING do to with people in game. I dont know why some people have such a hard time with that concept. I downloaded a FPS to pla on my PS3, not a board game. The only reason I want other players is to give more challenging targets I get home at midnight, i dont want to be talking to my TV like a madman while people around me sleep. i dont want to have peoples breathing and complaining and useless chitchat in my ear. I have tons of friends in my everyday life, i come home for some alone time, not because i want to go online and find lonely people to hang out with. Squads are by far the worst part of the game. Not because the idea of teamwork sucks, but because they cant just give a mode where people can just join and play. A squad should be a luxury, not a necessity. Its like forcing you to spend time with a bunch of people you normally wouldnt. Kinda creepy in that regard. Believe it or not, but not everyone thinks a game with Aim Assist is a competitive game. if anything, any game where the PS3 does your aiming for you is casual. Why cant we have a casual, regular mode then?
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 17	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:06:00 - [26] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: [. And who the heck said we wanted new players? Without new players, the game stagnates and dies, and then you dont have Dust 514 to play anymore.
Teilka Darkmist 294	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:19:00 - [27] - Quote Mr Attractive wrote: Because us new players have no single fuckin chance in hell of doing well. Look at your fuckin starter fits CCP. Ive got 130 armor,170 shield, and a militia AR. I'm going up against heavies with 750 shield and 1000 armor. I can fuckin LAY into them with an entire clip, and if they turn around and EVEN SNEEZE at me I'm dead quicker then I can blink. You wanna know why your game is trash? Because theres 8 of these heavies rolling around in a goddamn pack while my team is spead out over a mile wide map thats a barren fuckin wasteland with 1980s graphics. Meanwhile don't forget the fuckin tanks. Your "anti armor" fit with 6 rockets can even kill a fuckin jeep or a turret let alone a goddamn tank that can easily sponge all 6 shots without even a goddamn hardener, and again, kill you with a fuckin sneeze. You want new players? HOW ABOUT MAKING IT SO MILITIA ISNT TOTALLY FUCKIN USELESS TRASH THAT DOESN'T STAND A SINGLE FUCKIN CHANCE IN HELL AT EVEN KILLING ANYTHING, AND THAT YOU DON'T GET FUCKIN INSTA KILLED BY ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Now then. Go **** yourselves and take your garbage game and your down syndrome made balance, and shove it up your asses. I'll never play this trash again. Actually, I don't do too badly with my Militia frontline freebie fit. True I've got some SP invested that an actual new player wouldnGÇÖt, which helps, but not a huge amount. I'm at something like 11 or 12 million sp and most oft that has gone into scout suits and sniper rifles, or is spread out across two or three light weapons and two sidearms, plus various supports skills I took to try out modules which I decided don't suit my playstyle very well. I also run solo all the time and whilst my KDR and ranking aren't the highest, most of the time I can get into the top half of the leaderboard in a match, providing I get in at the beginning (which doesn't happen very often). I also know better than to try to solo tanks or take heavies straight on, because I know I'm not meant to be able to take them on on my own in the case of tanks, or straight on in the case of heavies because I'm not an OP one woman army. I'm part of a team of up to 16 players. Woman. Sniper, but from near the opponent's redline more often than not. Not a KDR Worshipper.
JP Acuna Pendejitos Canis Eliminatus Operatives 90	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:20:00 - [28] - Quote I know that feel bro. I love this game, but it really gets you upset sometimes. When i started it wasn't so unbalanced. I even started a Minmatar alt which i really enjoyed playing with. Now the lack of SP on it makes it really unvialble. You NEED a squad, good players to help you out, join a corp. Otherwise look for other games, Dust just isn't solo-friendly.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1460	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:25:00 - [29] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: It's almost like CCP wants you to find some kind of group of players in-game to lean on for support. Some kind of guild, but more contemporary. Perhaps you are meant to join into 6 man teams (I haven't decided what to call them yet) and coordinate your attacks; effectively increasing your power through tactics. Man, I hope something like that gets implemented one day. That still doesn't stop the stomp. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 382	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:45:00 - [30] - Quote PVE or Better Matchmaking. Matchmaking might end up splitting an already small community. PVE is at least a year off. I'd recommend playing something else, let your SP pile up and come back to a (hopefully) better game.

Ripley Riley 906	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:52:00 - [31] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: That still doesn't stop the stomp. My corp and I do MIL/STD fitting nights just for lawls. We kill protobears with a fierceness. A six man squad can do some pretty incredible things if you have a good role make-up and cooperative squadmates. Also: melting prototype suits in a STD caldari assault suit my no-no bits happy. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 21	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:21:00 - [32] - Quote I have 30+ Mil SP. You want to know what my 2 most used fits are: Gal G-1 logi, with all militi BP except for the adv CR Gal Scout, all militia gear except ADV R. Explosives. My LEAST used fit is my FULL Proto Gal Logi. Protostomping new players in ambush is lame, but saying that new players CAN NOT be dangerous on the field is incorrect.
Derrith Erador Kameira Lodge 1199	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:32:00 - [33] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: [. And who the heck said we wanted new players? Without new players, the game stagnates and dies, and then you dont have Dust 514 to play anymore. with new players comes more complaining, hence more of CCP's tendency to over-nerf something. Don't get me wrong, some of the stuff needed to be nerfed, but CCP always takes it too far. then I have to deal with all the other new guys complaining that X weapon is OP when you're running around in militia gear, what do you expect is going to happen? It's not like I even regularly proto stomp either. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican! Now a level 1 forum warrior.
Rusty Shallows 1065	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:53:00 - [34] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: It's almost like CCP wants you to find some kind of group of players in-game to lean on for support. Some kind of guild, but more contemporary. Perhaps you are meant to join into 6 man teams (I haven't decided what to call them yet) and coordinate your attacks; effectively increasing your power through tactics. Man, I hope something like that gets implemented one day. Six man squads of cannon-fodder are still easy kills. In fact I love them as they actually make my HMG feel like a heavy weapon. CCP should force them to squad up as a feature of matchmaking so us Vets can pad our KDR more. Good luck getting those newbs into decent Corps or good squads. Riley you know darn well squads are going to either ignore unknowns or kick them when a higher SP buddy shows up. There is little point in you blindly defending CCP on this crap. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Asher Night Dark Tengu 499	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:18:00 - [35] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Asher Night wrote: Mr Attractive wrote: Because us new players have no single fuckin chance in hell of doing well. Look at your fuckin starter fits CCP. Ive got 130 armor,170 shield, and a militia AR. I'm going up against heavies with 750 shield and 1000 armor. I can fuckin LAY into them with an entire clip, and if they turn around and EVEN SNEEZE at me I'm dead quicker then I can blink. You wanna know why your game is trash? Because theres 8 of these heavies rolling around in a goddamn pack while my team is spead out over a mile wide map thats a barren fuckin wasteland with 1980s graphics. Meanwhile don't forget the fuckin tanks. Your "anti armor" fit with 6 rockets can even kill a fuckin jeep or a turret let alone a goddamn tank that can easily sponge all 6 shots without even a goddamn hardener, and again, kill you with a fuckin sneeze. You want new players? HOW ABOUT MAKING IT SO MILITIA ISNT TOTALLY FUCKIN USELESS TRASH THAT DOESN'T STAND A SINGLE FUCKIN CHANCE IN HELL AT EVEN KILLING ANYTHING, AND THAT YOU DON'T GET FUCKIN INSTA KILLED BY ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Now then. Go **** yourselves and take your garbage game and your down syndrome made balance, and shove it up your asses. I'll never play this trash again. A lot of people are going to take this chance to ridicule you, but I understand why you're upset. The starter fits are pretty useless against enemies playing in a squad, and the game in general has a steep learning curve for new players. If you do choose to play this game again I have some advice... Try to join an active corp, fast. Don't play Ambush yet. You don't have the killing capacity for this deathmatch mode. Play Domination or better yet, Skirmish and just defend objectives. It's more active defending a lone, quiet objective than you would think, and you won't get caught off guard because the enemy is coming to you. Don't bother with heavies unless you Flux grenade them (destroys shields instantly), remote explosive them as they come around a corner, shotgun them from behind, or have back up. Don't atack them from the front. Fighting a heavy requires more srategy than fighting AS a heavy. Heavies are easy mode, I don't care what anyone says. If you have a hard time playing as a heavy, then you suck at life, and probably can't play as anything. I suck at playing heavy.... So I use a logi and a rep tool Okay. Why are you telling me this? lol Good job helping the team though and not rageing too hard. 100% Tactical Scout Corporation
Michael-J-Fox Richards Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 60	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:40:00 - [36] - Quote i love how hard the TC was raging, good stuff, but i do agree with the TC on CCP making his team be all spread out not helping him be the jewel that lights up the night sky that he knows he is. thats major bogusness on CCP's part http://i40.tinypic.com/33w8wtd.jpg http://i60.tinypic.com/29w7g29.jpg Assault Dropship Pilot
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4408	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:43:00 - [37] - Quote Tiercide! GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 5 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 467	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:05:00 - [38] - Quote Someone obviously didn't play video games in the 1980s. Looking for the scout hangout?
Interplanetary Insanitarium 293	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:06:00 - [39] - Quote Tear-icide!! Death by tears... >Welcome to Bonertown U.S.A.
Ripley Riley 926	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:07:00 - [40] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Six man squads of cannon-fodder are still easy kills. In fact I love them as they actually make my HMG feel like a heavy weapon. CCP should force them to squad up as a feature of matchmaking so us Vets can pad our KDR more. My squad of tryhard window lickers makes PRO sentinel pudding frequently enough. Your HMG might kill one of us (in a STD suit, btw) but the other five will kill you. Sounds like you're either over exaggerating in a big way or have been fighting squads that are somehow worst than mine... which is impossible. Rusty Shallows wrote: Good luck getting those newbs into decent Corps or good squads. Riley you know darn well squads are going to either ignore unknowns or kick them when a higher SP buddy shows up. There is little point in you blindly defending CCP on this crap. I don't defend CCP. I call it like I see it: Dust was never meant to be a single player game and your chances of survival increase significantly from being in a squad. Proof of concept: my barely-sentient dipshits gets 2.0+ K/D nearly every fight when we squad up. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1465	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:13:00 - [41] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Vet or not, that man has a point. Thats pretty much what all of my real life mates have said about this game. I hyped the game up, got a few of them to try it. You want to know how many of them still play? - Zero Unfortunately, it's the same with me. Hell, I tried telling them that new content is going to be released this month and they just LITERALLY said (over Facebook), "lol I'm not going to play Dust. That game's trash. You should buy a new game. How about I buy you one of the new ones?" He offered to buy me a game rather then to feel sorry for me still playing this game after months when they quit in their first week. The only friends that still play are the ones that I met on Dust. My corp either refuses to spend money on videogames or they just play this game because they have hope and actually enjoy if and only if our same 4 guys are on. It's sad, really.
Powerh8er DIOS EX. General Tso's Alliance 393	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:15:00 - [42] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Someone obviously didn't play video games in the 1980s. Gamers today want instawin buttons and the dev to hold their little hand while playing the game. This why I like dust, it is challenging and ccp are trolls. Te Valhall!
Interplanetary Insanitarium 293	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:21:00 - [43] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Dust was never meant to be a single player game.... Doesn't that limit their potential player base I've played in squads where I'm the only random and as long as the other people are aware of what my limitations are as a Heavy I'm a benefit to the team. (I change from Rep-mmando to HMG Sentinel) That hasn't happened very often though. A lot of the matches I've played in where I was put into a nearly full squad of people from the same corporation would start with them calling vehicles and blasting away to an objective while I have to haul my fat arse about 500 meters. They seriously need PvE for the casual gamer. >Welcome to Bonertown U.S.A.
Croned 625	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:49:00 - [44] - Quote Militia heavy? Son of a plasma cannon! TTK of the Weapons
Ripley Riley 929	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:51:00 - [45] - Quote Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: Doesn't that limit their potential player base Yes, it does. Ask CCP if they care. They want you to form bonds with people in your contact list, corporation, and alliance. Bonds keep you playing day after day, even when patches take 3+ months and balancing is ****. Ask most of the bitter vets here why they are playing. I bet their answers are something like, "I like to hang out with my friends and play a couple of matches." Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: I've played in squads where I'm the only random and as long as the other people are aware of what my limitations are as a Heavy I'm a benefit to the team. (I change from Rep-mmando to HMG Sentinel) Then you aren't soloing. You may not trust these people with your life or anything, but you are playing in a squad. That is exactly what CCP wants. I bet if they knew they could get away with it they would force everyone into squads. Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: They seriously need PvE for the casual gamer. A-*****-men. I want PvE in a bad way. Co-op PvE would cause me to actually spend real money on this game on a very regular basis (not AUR gear, mind you; active and passive boosters please). "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 22	Posted - 2014.03.07 05:48:00 - [46] - Quote Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Dust was never meant to be a single player game.... Doesn't that limit their potential player base ^Yes ,it does. People forget this is a PS3 game. The PS3 playerbase is by far and large, casual players. They pick up a controller, play a few matches of this game, play a few matches of that game, turn off the console and then go about their lives. Sometimes they dont play a game for weeks. People who make a videogame into their life, thats more of the PC market. CCP is in a unique position. They are offering a free to play on PS3. As more people switch to PS4, all those PS3 are going to be sold cheaply, and then bought by people who only bought it cause of the firesale price. By that time, Dust 514 could be one of the few games remaining still getting support and content updates, and still hosting a playerbase. They could expand into a robust playerbase and it becomes a very profitable venture. However, if the game keeps up with this squad bull****, most of those people will play Dust for 20mins, close it, and instead just go to the store and buy a used PS3 game for 5$. Even if they do play this game time to time, they will never like it enough to buy AUR in it. Ive stuck to this game longer than everyone I told to give it a try. And even that, im a very long way off from buying AUR. I just dont get why squads have to be in every gamemode. i get having squads in Planetary Conquest or Factional Warfare. But using squads to steamroll rookie solo players in "Public Contracts". Whats the point? To chase away the future playerbase? And finally, why do people keep saying "I like a challenge, thats why I squad up with proto folks and stomp noobs".(Cause seeking every advantage is clearly the more challenging way to play). How could anyone call a game with Aim Assist a "challenge"? Thats like saying "Im good at smooth gear changes while driving my automatic transmission car".


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