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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.08 11:22:00 -
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If plasma cannon is Av. How about have two modes dumb fire for infantry and seek for Vehicles.Seek could use Av nades code to home in on vehicle giving it a place as a good weapon. |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
163
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Posted - 2014.03.08 12:14:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:LOL plasma cannon.
MD will be better in 1.8. Muuuch more damage per clip.
The point of the discussion is whether or not the plc will be a viable weapon against shielded tanks due to its change in proficiency. The mass driver doesn't excel against shields now, nor will it in 1.8. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
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Posted - 2014.03.08 13:54:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Now?
What REALLY changed? SL and FG will be even worse against them, that's what.
Not really
I am your scan error.
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1014
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Posted - 2014.03.08 13:58:00 -
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Read my sig.
Also, my Allotek Flux does 1800 damage to shields.
Uprising 1.7 - TANKDOMINATION!!1!!1!
LOL Battle Academy
LOL Plasma Cannon
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1144
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Posted - 2014.03.08 15:47:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Timtron Victory wrote:
I think your posts have caused a diversion from the topic.
Let me say it in very simple terms
HAV = Heavy Suit
One light suit or medium suit can kill a heavy with the correct weapons.
You dont need two players to kill a Heavy
Thanks should not be any different. Of course, the tanks should have a lot of health and nanohives might be required but emptying a full ammo or clip or whatever still swarms are all used up and not able to kill one tank is wrong.
One player should be able to kill a tank even if it takes more time. Two players easy, three players easier and four players easiest.
The whole you need teamwork to kill a tank is baseless because a tank user does not need teamwork to destroy an entire squad.
This argument has been made before and I am tired of seeing it.
Interesting signature by the way
I don't mean to bunny trail off. HAV= Heavy Suit One light suit or medium suit can kill a heavy with the correct weapons. So one HAV can kill one HAV. You don't need two HAVs to kill another one. I have soloed plenty of HAVs and I think is should take a small group suppoting a HAV for them to be very effective. I am tired of seeing QQ about HAVs My signature is a quote from a movie, proud Agnostic.
and we are tired to read the same fantasy stories from tank scrubs defending their crutches 
soloing some scrubs not knowing how to press forward button is in no way a standard for balance and your attempt to deny your crutch defending is pathetic and it will sooner or later be taken away, deal with it. |
Toby Flenderson
research lab
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:24:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:bamboo x wrote:Delta 749 wrote:It being a one shot wonder makes it a joke for practical AV purposes, its great for splatting heavies though Skill into reload speed and shield proficiency a little, and I can see it making a serious dent in even the highest shields, given the hardener is cooling down still. People laugh at this but the way to use the plasma cannon effectively pre-1.8 was the Commando. It maxed out reload speed which effectively negated the one-shot wonder mechanic. Except now instead of that Gallente commando will get a 10% bonus to damage. I have lvl 5 prof/reload and run it with 3 complex damage mods on a gallogi. It can hurt tanks bad but unless you have some help they usually are able to escape death easily. Maybe two of them will be able to take out a shield tank but I rarely play with other PLC users so I'm not confident in that statement. You are probably correct, I say three but I am using my low level PLC skills as a base. The PLC needs to be used in a AV squad not just solo, a solo merc can run a HAV off but not usually destroy it but a squad of three AV mercs will pop most or at least send them running with low armor. With these changes it will be necessary to have shield and armor DPS in the AV squad to do the job, it is a small nerf but a good anti-vehicle SQUAD shouldn't have a big problem with it.
Agreed. Hopefully more people will have a chance to try the PLC now that the rifles are being tamed a bit. I think this could be all that the game needs to encourage people to use other weapons. |
Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
389
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Posted - 2014.03.08 18:51:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:You are correct you can't, so bring out your own heavy armor to deal with it. I have soloed a HAV with an advanced PLC with no prof and some nades. That doesn't mean they are UP. Two or three people can easily make HAVs useless in a match but it just takes practice, some SP and actually trying. I can personally hold up a HAV for while just because they are usually greedy and want to kill a PLC user because I must be a scrub for using it. Tthose two or three minutes that they are focused on me is plenty of time for others to severely damage it or pop it but no one else tries. So your choice is forfeit the match by fielding 15 avers or getting your own tank. Your choice now is forfeit the match by not fielding 15 AVers or getting your own tank. After about a week of loosing almost every HAV to hit the ground we wouldn't have a problem like we do now. Even if we don't kill them blueballing them by not allowing them to just do anything they want will make a difference. Destruction isn't the only way to combat the problem, if you can beat them then just ruin their game by denying them them the fun of actually being in the fight. So where's the diversity and variety in gameplay. Your saying this should be a tanks only game. Same argument to you, should it be infantry only?
Yes until some sort of balance can be found for tanks and dropships (making av able to solo tanks and dropships)
It should be removed. There's still diversity in infantry combat, there's none to be found in having to field 15 avers every single match.
Do you think every single match should be 15 avers versus 5 tanks?
Yes or no. |
darkiller240
WarRavens
League of Infamy
534
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Posted - 2014.03.08 18:59:00 -
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Yes because shield vehicles are OP compare to amour
wait i think something wrong in that statement
For those to lazy to relise shield tankers are UP compared to amour ones ATM
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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Timtron Victory
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
65
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Posted - 2014.03.09 08:16:00 -
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A player with a railgun does more damage to a player than a plasma cannon
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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