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Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 144	Posted - 2014.03.01 03:20:00 - [1] - Quote Has it been changed from the proposed garbage reload bonus yet ? Yes I hate it, hate it, hate it, hate it, HATE IT !!!! So I can reload an RR 25% faster .. WOOP DEE ******* DOO .. why would I waste 2.6m SP for that ? I very rarely take part in an engagement long enough to need to reload in battle, even v multiple enemies I pop behind cover and reload in next to no time .. I shield Tank .. shields take time to come back anyway .. I reload whilst shields are recharging plus an assault suit has a side arm .. if your main weapon runs out of ammo switch to sidearm .. reload bonus would make sense on a logi suit that only has 1 weapon they have no other option than to wait but on an assault suit ? Thats flipping pointless ... plus most light weapons have a reload skill anyway Anyways back to playing FFIX
Patrick57 5596	Posted - 2014.03.01 03:32:00 - [2] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: So I can reload an RR 25% faster .. WOOP DEE ***** DOO .. why would I waste 2.6m SP for that ? So you can get back to killing ** of course. i can haz gooder grammur
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1351	Posted - 2014.03.01 03:43:00 - [3] - Quote Better than the Gallente bonus. The dispersion one will suck if you want to use the shotgun on it. The suits ate balanced around the Rifles. Want to be assault? Use your racial rifle. Seems poorly thought out, in my opinion.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3300	Posted - 2014.03.01 03:45:00 - [4] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Better than the Gallente bonus. The dispersion one will suck if you want to use the shotgun on it. The suits ate balanced around the Rifles. Want to be assault? Use your racial rifle. Seems poorly thought out, in my opinion. Especially when you consider that a long range rifle will be getting a bonus to a close-range suit. No.
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 4166	Posted - 2014.03.01 03:48:00 - [5] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Better than the Gallente bonus. The dispersion one will suck if you want to use the shotgun on it. Are you ********? Decreased dispersion on a shotgun is not only increased range, but increased damage as well. What do you normally use shotguns for? Random shooting in the hopes that a pellet or 2 will hit someone? I am your scan error.
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 144	Posted - 2014.03.01 03:59:00 - [6] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: So I can reload an RR 25% faster .. WOOP DEE ***** DOO .. why would I waste 2.6m SP for that ? So you can get back to killing ** of course. As I said in the OP .. Caldari Assault -Shield Tank -Hit and Run Pop out from cover kill a few people .. get noticed, get shot at , go back behind cover/retreat to a different location .. reload whilst I wait for shields to regen and then repeat .. even when I had no sp invested in the reload skill my shields still took longer to regen than it took for me to reload .. its a completely useless bonus. Unlike most people I don't dual Tank or armor tank for max eHP so I don't stand around in the open engaging multiple enemies strafing around reloading .. its all done behind cover and if for some reason I run out of clip ammo .. I switch to my sidearm .. I can invest alot less SP and get a 25% faster reload just from the RR reload skill .. just like everyone else .. 2.6m is way too much for such a minor bonus .. Anyone with experience in using the Cal Assault will tell you the current bonuses to shield recharge rate and shield extenders is way better than this reload bonus Hers some info Current Cal assault max lvl + max lvl regulators requires 2 complex shield regulators to get the shield recharge delay down to 2.09 seconds, when you take into consideration it then takes a further 2/3 seconds to recharge 400 shields that gives you over 5 seconds to wait .. even with no sp in the RR reload skill it takes less than 5 seconds ... Taking away the current extender and recharge rate bonus will increase the time it takes for shields to regen to full .. what use is reloading faster if it takes even longer to regen than before ?? Reload speed isn't an issue in the current build and its going to be even less of an issue if these proposed changes take effect !! I can't believe some moron actually liked your post .. that makes 2 idiots with no idea what they are talking about who've replied to me ..
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2074	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:01:00 - [7] - Quote The Caldari should get the gallente bonus and the gallente should get the ROF bonus. OMG NOCTURNAL YOUR SOOOOO SMAART "But we have been blessed"
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 144	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:07:00 - [8] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Caldari should get the gallente bonus and the gallente should get the ROF bonus. OMG NOCTURNAL YOUR SOOOOO SMAART Yeah That would actually make sense Nocturnal for CPM
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 406	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:13:00 - [9] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Caldari should get the gallente bonus and the gallente should get the ROF bonus. OMG NOCTURNAL YOUR SOOOOO SMAART Caldari weapons don't have dispersion... 32db Mad Bomber.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1353	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:15:00 - [10] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Caldari should get the gallente bonus and the gallente should get the ROF bonus. OMG NOCTURNAL YOUR SOOOOO SMAART Yeah That would actually make sense Nocturnal for CPM Agree with everything above these words.

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1353	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:16:00 - [11] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Caldari should get the gallente bonus and the gallente should get the ROF bonus. OMG NOCTURNAL YOUR SOOOOO SMAART Caldari weapons don't have dispersion... Not yet they don't.
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 146	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:17:00 - [12] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Caldari should get the gallente bonus and the gallente should get the ROF bonus. OMG NOCTURNAL YOUR SOOOOO SMAART Caldari weapons don't have dispersion... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbm2Ny0XcJc RR don't fire in straight lines , there is actually dispersion
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2075	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:26:00 - [13] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Caldari should get the gallente bonus and the gallente should get the ROF bonus. OMG NOCTURNAL YOUR SOOOOO SMAART Yeah That would actually make sense Nocturnal for CPM Naaa I'd just tax everyone and takes Viktor Jr's dream of getting a 100billion isk "But we have been blessed"
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 406	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:33:00 - [14] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Caldari should get the gallente bonus and the gallente should get the ROF bonus. OMG NOCTURNAL YOUR SOOOOO SMAART Caldari weapons don't have dispersion... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbm2Ny0XcJc RR don't fire in straight lines , there is actually dispersion Same vid right here, it can be seen firing perfectly straight, unlike the AR/CR without sharpshooter that spray everywhere regardless of where you are aiming. 32db Mad Bomber.
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 116	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:34:00 - [15] - Quote PS Assault suit bonus (non racial) change is nice. Current one sucks.. + to shield regen? even for people who are armor based? Lol maybe some shield regulation but recharge isn't useful to anyone really Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 148	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:39:00 - [16] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Caldari should get the gallente bonus and the gallente should get the ROF bonus. OMG NOCTURNAL YOUR SOOOOO SMAART Caldari weapons don't have dispersion... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbm2Ny0XcJc RR don't fire in straight lines , there is actually dispersion Same vid right here, it can be seen firing perfectly straight, unlike the AR/CR without sharpshooter that spray everywhere regardless of where you are aiming. Hip Fire the weapon and it'll be pretty obvious, I can assure you after using it for 3 months even if you keep the aim perfectly straight the bullets come out at different angles and don't all go in the same place .. that is dispersion ..
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 148	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:41:00 - [17] - Quote Soldier Sorajord wrote: PS Assault suit bonus (non racial) change is nice. Current one sucks.. + to shield regen? even for people who are armor based? Lol maybe some shield regulation but recharge isn't useful to anyone really Caldari aren't intended to be armor tanked .. sure you can change it into an armor tank but its bonuses should stick towards its racial playstyle You can shield tank a Gal assault but you wouldn't give it a shield bonus just because some people use it in a certain way
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 406	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:44:00 - [18] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Caldari should get the gallente bonus and the gallente should get the ROF bonus. OMG NOCTURNAL YOUR SOOOOO SMAART Caldari weapons don't have dispersion... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbm2Ny0XcJc RR don't fire in straight lines , there is actually dispersion Same vid right here, it can be seen firing perfectly straight, unlike the AR/CR without sharpshooter that spray everywhere regardless of where you are aiming. Hip Fire the weapon and it'll be pretty obvious, I can assure you after using it for 3 months even if you keep the aim perfectly straight the bullets come out at different angles and don't all go in the same place .. that is dispersion .. That's from recoil, I've been using since it came out also. 32db Mad Bomber.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1008	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:47:00 - [19] - Quote remove 20% spool up per level on rail weapons for the bonus Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Patrick57 5599	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:48:00 - [20] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: As I said in the OP .. Caldari Assault -Shield Tank -Hit and Run Pop out from cover kill a few people .. get noticed, get shot at , go back behind cover/retreat to a different location .. reload whilst I wait for shields to regen and then repeat .. even when I had no sp invested in the reload skill my shields still took longer to regen than it took for me to reload .. its a completely useless bonus. Unlike most people I don't dual Tank or armor tank for max eHP so I don't stand around in the open engaging multiple enemies strafing around reloading .. its all done behind cover and if for some reason I run out of clip ammo .. I switch to my sidearm .. I can invest alot less SP and get a 25% faster reload just from the RR reload skill .. just like everyone else .. 2.6m is way too much for such a minor bonus .. Anyone with experience in using the Cal Assault will tell you the current bonuses to shield recharge rate and shield extenders is way better than this reload bonus Hers some info Current Cal assault max lvl + max lvl regulators requires 2 complex shield regulators to get the shield recharge delay down to 2.09 seconds, when you take into consideration it then takes a further 2/3 seconds to recharge 400 shields that gives you over 5 seconds to wait .. even with no sp in the RR reload skill it takes less than 5 seconds ... Taking away the current extender and recharge rate bonus will increase the time it takes for shields to regen to full .. what use is reloading faster if it takes even longer to regen than before ?? Reload speed isn't an issue in the current build and its going to be even less of an issue if these proposed changes take effect !! I can't believe some moron actually liked your post .. that makes 2 idiots with no idea what they are talking about who've replied to me .. I know the bolded text is harsh but when someone clearly puts no thought into their comment after you've spent time researching and thinking about it, then it gets a bit frustrating TL;DR i can haz gooder grammur

DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4335	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:51:00 - [21] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Joel II X wrote: Better than the Gallente bonus. The dispersion one will suck if you want to use the shotgun on it. Are you ******? Decreased dispersion on a shotgun is not only increased range, but increased damage as well. What do you normally use shotguns for? Random shooting in the hopes that a pellet or 2 will hit someone? It is not increased range. And it is not increased dmg either. Currently the shotgun already works like its fires slug shots. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 5** \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1008	Posted - 2014.03.01 04:53:00 - [22] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Joel II X wrote: Better than the Gallente bonus. The dispersion one will suck if you want to use the shotgun on it. Are you ********? Decreased dispersion on a shotgun is not only increased range, but increased damage as well. What do you normally use shotguns for? Random shooting in the hopes that a pellet or 2 will hit someone? It is not increased range. And it is not increased dmg either. Currently the shotgun already works like its fires slug shots. Most people not understand though because they don't have operation past 1 Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 153	Posted - 2014.03.02 00:45:00 - [23] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: As I said in the OP .. Caldari Assault -Shield Tank -Hit and Run Pop out from cover kill a few people .. get noticed, get shot at , go back behind cover/retreat to a different location .. reload whilst I wait for shields to regen and then repeat .. even when I had no sp invested in the reload skill my shields still took longer to regen than it took for me to reload .. its a completely useless bonus. Unlike most people I don't dual Tank or armor tank for max eHP so I don't stand around in the open engaging multiple enemies strafing around reloading .. its all done behind cover and if for some reason I run out of clip ammo .. I switch to my sidearm .. I can invest alot less SP and get a 25% faster reload just from the RR reload skill .. just like everyone else .. 2.6m is way too much for such a minor bonus .. Anyone with experience in using the Cal Assault will tell you the current bonuses to shield recharge rate and shield extenders is way better than this reload bonus Hers some info Current Cal assault max lvl + max lvl regulators requires 2 complex shield regulators to get the shield recharge delay down to 2.09 seconds, when you take into consideration it then takes a further 2/3 seconds to recharge 400 shields that gives you over 5 seconds to wait .. even with no sp in the RR reload skill it takes less than 5 seconds ... Taking away the current extender and recharge rate bonus will increase the time it takes for shields to regen to full .. what use is reloading faster if it takes even longer to regen than before ?? Reload speed isn't an issue in the current build and its going to be even less of an issue if these proposed changes take effect !! I can't believe some moron actually liked your post .. that makes 2 idiots with no idea what they are talking about who've replied to me .. I know the bolded text is harsh but when someone clearly puts no thought into their comment after you've spent time researching and thinking about it, then it gets a bit frustrating TL;DR Then why respond ? You really are a complete tool aren't you ..
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 776	Posted - 2014.03.02 01:09:00 - [24] - Quote Caldari assault should keep the shield recharge bonus. Regen shields faster. Best PVE idea I've seen.
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 154	Posted - 2014.03.02 01:30:00 - [25] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: ] Asha Starwind wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The Caldari should get the gallente bonus and the gallente should get the ROF bonus. OMG NOCTURNAL YOUR SOOOOO SMAART Caldari weapons don't have dispersion... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbm2Ny0XcJc RR don't fire in straight lines , there is actually dispersion Same vid right here, it can be seen firing perfectly straight, unlike the AR/CR without sharpshooter that spray everywhere regardless of where you are aiming. Hip Fire the weapon and it'll be pretty obvious, I can assure you after using it for 3 months even if you keep the aim perfectly straight the bullets come out at different angles and don't all go in the same place .. that is dispersion .. You dont get recoil til after the 10th shot has been fired consecutively yet you'll notice the bullets come out at different places even when you hold your aim perfectly still .. as I said that is dispersion
Lucrezia LeGrand 358	Posted - 2014.03.02 01:33:00 - [26] - Quote so I'm just roughly keeping up on this. Shotguns don't get better after proficiency 1? o_O And wow, those new Assault bonuses suck. Is there a link to where I can check them out myself? Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man).
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 154	Posted - 2014.03.02 01:37:00 - [27] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: so I'm just roughly keeping up on this. Shotguns don't get better after proficiency 1? o_O And wow, those new Assault bonuses suck. Is there a link to where I can check them out myself? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136370&find=unread All proposed changes are listed here , scroll down to see the assault bonuses
Hecarim Van Hohen ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 487	Posted - 2014.03.02 01:42:00 - [28] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: As I said in the OP .. Caldari Assault -Shield Tank -Hit and Run Pop out from cover kill a few people .. get noticed, get shot at , go back behind cover/retreat to a different location .. reload whilst I wait for shields to regen and then repeat .. even when I had no sp invested in the reload skill my shields still took longer to regen than it took for me to reload .. its a completely useless bonus. Unlike most people I don't dual Tank or armor tank for max eHP so I don't stand around in the open engaging multiple enemies strafing around reloading .. its all done behind cover and if for some reason I run out of clip ammo .. I switch to my sidearm .. I can invest alot less SP and get a 25% faster reload just from the RR reload skill .. just like everyone else .. 2.6m is way too much for such a minor bonus .. Anyone with experience in using the Cal Assault will tell you the current bonuses to shield recharge rate and shield extenders is way better than this reload bonus Hers some info Current Cal assault max lvl + max lvl regulators requires 2 complex shield regulators to get the shield recharge delay down to 2.09 seconds, when you take into consideration it then takes a further 2/3 seconds to recharge 400 shields that gives you over 5 seconds to wait .. even with no sp in the RR reload skill it takes less than 5 seconds ... Taking away the current extender and recharge rate bonus will increase the time it takes for shields to regen to full .. what use is reloading faster if it takes even longer to regen than before ?? Reload speed isn't an issue in the current build and its going to be even less of an issue if these proposed changes take effect !! I can't believe some moron actually liked your post .. that makes 2 idiots with no idea what they are talking about who've replied to me .. I know the bolded text is harsh but when someone clearly puts no thought into their comment after you've spent time researching and thinking about it, then it gets a bit frustrating TL;DR Then why respond ? You really are a complete tool aren't you .. OP being a ** <3 #JustDust514things TL;DR of the thread Proposed Caldaria Assault bonus is bad, keeping the current one would be better BANGO SKANK WAS HERE** 1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
Havaru Fox Golden Empire of EvE 25	Posted - 2014.03.02 01:52:00 - [29] - Quote i just wonder: "why should i pick this suit over a logi suit?" logi can do the same, while they can carry a uplink,hive or any other sh... i was thinking about using it as my "i'm low on money and want to carry a gun and thats it" but a basic heavy would do a better job here, since i dont have to buy the shieldextenders or plates my future build: -logi with uplink,hive and a rep/revive .sentinal in a basic,adv and proto version for tanking if i would be low on money(because i buy tanks in FW), then i would go for a adv logi and use full T1 on it, because here i would still make way more points then with a assault suit. maybe the % on PG and CPU would give the suit a reason to be there, but why should i buy proto stuff on a basic,adv suit? or do you guys think that you can build something awesome with a proto assault, so there would be a need the PG/CPU? long story short: assault should be the fast version of a heavy suit and get damage or hp. reload is a joke... << Support the EvE League>>
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 306	Posted - 2014.03.02 02:16:00 - [30] - Quote Caldari assault needs a regulator bonus. Gallente needs falloff or armor rep bonus. Dispersion isn't as bad as reload. Amarr and min are fine.



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