So, ignoring any comparison to other classes, just looking at the logistics class, the upcoming racial bonuses to single type of equipment are unbalanced and seem like an unfinished thought.

Now, an actual logi should in most circumstances be carrying multiple types of equipment to make for a balanced support class, and that is what most logis do, and will continue to do in 1.8. However, the specialization that CCP seems to be wanting to drive us towards will be in many cases if not strictly necessary, then at least encouraged in any sort of competitive play (lol what little there is of that in Dust).

So looking at the different races: a Caldari logi can always benefit not only themselves but their team by carrying several sets of nanohives, and many will be encouraged to do so simply because, for example, the non bonused rep hives that could be deployed by others will not be all that amazing after the equipment nerf. An Amarr Logi carrying multiple sets of links will not be a rare sight to see, no matter how unsuited some consider that particular suit for actually effectively deploying those links, the racial bonus will make the links deployed by the Amarr Logi the most desirable on the field. A Gallente logi gets a bonus to active scanners, but not to their cooldown, which will be drastically increased with the equipment nerf... so carrying multiple scanners is useful even when when you don't consider how much it makes sense to carry different types for range, scout hunting etc.

So... a Minmatar logi carrying multiple rep tools makes as much sense as all of the above? Right? RIGHT?

So, ignoring any comparison to other classes, just looking at the logistics class, the upcoming racial bonuses to single type of equipment are unbalanced and seem like an unfinished thought.

Now, an actual logi should in most circumstances be carrying multiple types of equipment to make for a balanced support class, and that is what most logis do, and will continue to do in 1.8. However, the specialization that CCP seems to be wanting to drive us towards will be in many cases if not strictly necessary, then at least encouraged in any sort of competitive play (lol what little there is of that in Dust).

So looking at the different races: a Caldari logi can always benefit not only themselves but their team by carrying several sets of nanohives, and many will be encouraged to do so simply because, for example, the non bonused rep hives that could be deployed by others will not be all that amazing after the equipment nerf. An Amarr Logi carrying multiple sets of links will not be a rare sight to see, no matter how unsuited some consider that particular suit for actually effectively deploying those links, the racial bonus will make the links deployed by the Amarr Logi the most desirable on the field. A Gallente logi gets a bonus to active scanners, but not to their cooldown, which will be drastically increased with the equipment nerf... so carrying multiple scanners is useful even when when you don't consider how much it makes sense to carry different types for range, scout hunting etc.

So... a Minmatar logi carrying multiple rep tools makes as much sense as all of the above? Right? RIGHT?

Please just stop with this already. I would tell you why the bonuses are good but they're 20 other freaking threads already filled with my answer.

The real question is.. if minmatar are the best at repping armor and vehicles presumably.. where the fuk are the minmatar vehicles?

Ah, the min/max attitude. If it's not receiving a bonus then you don't want it. My load outs won't be changing but my strength will be in remote armor repair.

multiple rep tools is op.

The real question is.. if minmatar are the best at repping armor and vehicles presumably.. where the fuk are the minmatar vehicles?

So... a Minmatar logi carrying multiple rep tools makes as much sense as all of the above? Right? RIGHT?

the non bonused rep hives that could be deployed by others will not be all that amazing after the equipment nerf.

If they were to do it right, the bonuses should be on the equipment skills themselves with maybe even equipment proficiency just like weapons, and not the suits.

But then again it's CCP. Each suit is getting something specific to their racial items, whether it be upgrades to weapons, resistances, or even just things those suits use.

Besides, I thought you were a good logi...no? You should know that using more than one of an equipment makes your logi suit much less effective (unless it's just an uplink/nanohive spamming one, in that case it's actually just exploiting game mechanics)

And on top of it all, the repair tool is getting the smallest nerf of all the equipment. You didn't even take that into account. The only thing they're doing is limiting the range on the thing if you're not minmatar. That means that other racial suits with more HP have to stick closer to their targets, while the minmatar with lower HP can stay farther back and use cover while repping from range. The only repair tool to get a nerf in health repaired is the core focused.

The nanaohives are getting their nano supply nerfed unless you are caldari. So non-caldari will find their nanohives running out much quicker...while the caldari bonus restores their nano capacity to 1.7 levels, and gives them an even faster resupply and repair rate.

I could go on but by now you should be able to see the way it is. You have the freedom to choose what you want to use, but certain suits use those items better. That's what CCP wants to do, and I like it.

There is your fallacy right there.

Please just stop with this already. I would tell you why the bonuses are good but they're 20 other freaking threads already filled with my answer.

For example with Minmatar logis, It's not that you'd carry multiple Reppers... You'd still carry uplinks and whatever else as well. You;d just be a bad ass at repping.

The real question is.. if minmatar are the best at repping armor and vehicles presumably.. where the fuk are the minmatar vehicles?

^^^ This

What other kind of racial bonus would you like to see instead of the repair tool? Maybe something affecting RE's?

What other kind of racial bonus would you like to see instead of the repair tool? Maybe something affecting RE's?

Don't touch my mother f--king hack bonus. If it has to go, give me back my SP so I can go scout and get my hack bonus back.

Now, an actual logi should in most circumstances be carrying multiple types of equipment to make for a balanced support class, and that is what most logis do, and will continue to do in 1.8. However, the specialization that CCP seems to be wanting to drive us towards will be in many cases if not strictly necessary, then at least encouraged in any sort of competitive play (lol what little there is of that in Dust).

How about just limit equipment across type instead of across a single item? No more throwing down 3 different types of uplink, you'd just get one. This would fix everything you've complained about, would reduce equipment spam, and make equipment placement a lot more tactical. Stop complaining about good changes to the game because you want to do everything at once.

For example with Minmatar logis, It's not that you'd carry multiple Reppers... You'd still carry uplinks and whatever else as well. You;d just be a bad ass at repping.

The real question is.. if minmatar are the best at repping armor and vehicles presumably.. where the fuk are the minmatar vehicles?

Indeed, or armor tanked minmatar suits the minmatar logi was designed to repair (they all seem to favour shields over armour from what I've seen).

Please just stop with this already. I would tell you why the bonuses are good but they're 20 other freaking threads already filled with my answer.