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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:12:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:da GAND wrote:... What are you talking about? Dust has been going downhill since uprisings release. I agree, but it's all relative. If you start your comparison at Uprising 1.0, there have been significant improvements. Comparing to Chromosome, and how things might have been if they'd spent a year improving *that* instead, the progress... well... isn't.
I agree it's an improved lobby shooter, and that's the main problem. The battles are pointless, PC is laggy expensive skirmish, and FW well since they completely took the isk out I didn't play it very much when I was playing dust and besides the reward the FW battles are the same as pub skirmish battles. So overall it's just been the improved dull lobby shooter and yes I know you can have fun but it's just been too much of the same for me.
After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:13:00 -
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Start some kind of work on the ps4 please ccp. Play bf4, then come back to dust. You'll realise that your games potential is on hold until then.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:15:00 -
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Leanna Boghin wrote:I have no interest in a PS4 nor do i plan to get one but i can agree that Dust has done nothing but go downhill since 1.7 at the very least. The tank issue alone is enough to ruin the fun of the game. Although i have found an alternative fun thing to do in Dust514. Sniping but not just regular plain old spine and kill. I tend to Snipe my opponent without killing them kind of like playing with my prey before the big kill. Besides that way they get mad and come at me and i get a bit of amusement when they try to sneak up on me or counter snipe :P
Oh yeah, leanna your voice is hot.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Leanna Boghin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:20:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Leanna Boghin wrote:I have no interest in a PS4 nor do i plan to get one but i can agree that Dust has done nothing but go downhill since 1.7 at the very least. The tank issue alone is enough to ruin the fun of the game. Although i have found an alternative fun thing to do in Dust514. Sniping but not just regular plain old spine and kill. I tend to Snipe my opponent without killing them kind of like playing with my prey before the big kill. Besides that way they get mad and come at me and i get a bit of amusement when they try to sneak up on me or counter snipe :P Oh yeah, leanna your voice is hot. Yeah but i know you prefer my evil laugh over my hot smexy voice :P |
Leanna Boghin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:23:00 -
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danthrax martin wrote:Im confused on how its fun to run to the hills and snipe when tanks, or a big corp are on the field. I am immortal. I will throw suits at objectives, people, and vehicles. The exploiters are those that to me make this a non-fun alcoholism inducing pile of something. Sooo many people on the outskirts of the action.i try talking, gifting vehicles, shooting them in the back of the head, because if they were behind me my suicidal rampage for genicidal glory could go so much further and the piles of bodies i would be able to use as a.... Uh...oh.... HI! mwahaha im sure you get the idea why its fun to snipe people from the hills rather than waste the isk tossing out suit after suit tank after tank for a losing match. I would rather sit snipe and enjoy my day while not losing isk and have the opportunity to play with my prey than sit there getting aggrivated over a game that just isnt really worth the aggrivation to begin with. But hey thats just me :P |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:26:00 -
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Leanna Boghin wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Leanna Boghin wrote:I have no interest in a PS4 nor do i plan to get one but i can agree that Dust has done nothing but go downhill since 1.7 at the very least. The tank issue alone is enough to ruin the fun of the game. Although i have found an alternative fun thing to do in Dust514. Sniping but not just regular plain old spine and kill. I tend to Snipe my opponent without killing them kind of like playing with my prey before the big kill. Besides that way they get mad and come at me and i get a bit of amusement when they try to sneak up on me or counter snipe :P Oh yeah, leanna your voice is hot. Yeah but i know you prefer my evil laugh over my hot smexy voice :P
Oh yeah
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:27:00 -
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Leanna Boghin wrote:gbghg wrote:[quote=Dalmont Legrand] I can agree with what your saying however i cant agree with it for this reason. How can they put a game on a new gen console when they can even work out all the issue with the game on the PS3 console? Currently at this time if PS4 was allowed to have Dust 514 the game would fail within a year if not less. Think about it they are saying to you that they cant do this or cant do that because of a hardware issue yet the current game still isnt even balanced enough to be called a game and it should technically still be in Beta phase. BTW the above was edited thanks to the extremely limited space the PS3 onscreen keyborad alots you for typing. oh i know, but balance is something of a separate issue to upgrading to ps4, upgrading hardware would allow for bigger maps, more diverse maps, smoother framerates etc. as i said, upgrading to the ps4 is no magic fix but it could enable a huge range of quality of life features which would deal with quite a few complaints. that said it would be a huge undertaking and would require a huge amount of patience from the community. game balance is another issue entirely, right now i think the devs are trying to juggle too many things at once and those things are too diverse. i mean look at AV, there's light av and heavy av, trying to balance tanks agianst heavy av makes them too tanky agianst light av, balancing them against light av makes them too squishy to heavy av. we've seen what happens in the latter case, vehicle pilots feel their very expensive assets are basically free wp for av'ers and more than a few quit. when we balamce against heavy av however light av users feel their role is now worthless since they now get no wp income, since they can only damage not destroy vehicles.
honeslty i know CCP makes efforts to fix these things but part of the problem is how long it takes updates to happen, when swarms were buffed in 1.4 we were promised a vehicle buff to compensate in 1.5 a month later, now one month is long enough as it is, it allows certain players to believe the current balance is the correct one (looking at you swarmers) but the vehcile buff didn't come till 1.7 3 whole months later. the problem is that ccp makes 1 change in one patch, then a change that balances out the 1st one on another patch, that however leaves a period of imbalance that provides ccp biased information and poisions the community with the same biased views, we think "swarms are this powerful against current tanks, hence they should be nerfed against new tanks", so come next update tanks (which previously might have been balanced against swarms before the biased data beget a nerf) get buffed and swarms get nerfed, now swarms just get shrugged off.
it's like blams stupid idea to introduce AA tanks years before fighters would be introduced (thank god that idea got scrapped) it just leads to unnecessary nerfs and poisons the community's views on things.
Lv 4 forum warrior
Bringer of Bacon
Knight of AMV's
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Lucrezia LeGrand
343
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:32:00 -
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just throwing this out there for anyone who doesn't know...
Sony has said that free-to-play games will NOT require a ps+ subscription. so if dust goes to ps4 (and at this point I'm 90% sure it will), then it will continue to be free-to-play.
Thale groupie
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Horizen Kenpachi
Kenpachi's Castle
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:35:00 -
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Dose sony want dust on ps4 ?
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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Leanna Boghin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:36:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Leanna Boghin wrote:[quote=gbghg][quote=Dalmont Legrand] oh i know, but balance is something of a separate issue to upgrading to ps4, upgrading hardware would allow for bigger maps, more diverse maps, smoother framerates etc. as i said, upgrading to the ps4 is no magic fix... Ah but see thats just it. You can add content upon content all you want but when push comes to shove if the game is unbalanced and plays like crap the game will always be, regardless of the amount of content you give it, crap. Even if they put the game on a next gen console you cant cover up the fact that game plays like crap with new stuff. Sure people might let you get away with it for a while but eventually you will run out of ideas and content and people will be right back at it telling CCP that the game is crap and needs to be fixed. |
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:37:00 -
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Horizen Kenpachi wrote:Dose sony want dust on ps4 ?
Hopefully, please do not subtly p!ss in my cornflakes lol.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Leanna Boghin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:41:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Horizen Kenpachi wrote:Dose sony want dust on ps4 ? Hopefully, please do not subtly p!ss in my cornflakes lol. Guess you will have to wait and see. All i can say is this. Wish in one hand crap in the other and see which one fills up faster. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:42:00 -
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Leanna Boghin wrote:gbghg wrote:Leanna Boghin wrote:[quote=gbghg][quote=Dalmont Legrand] oh i know, but balance is something of a separate issue to upgrading to ps4, upgrading hardware would allow for bigger maps, more diverse maps, smoother framerates etc. as i said, upgrading to the ps4 is no magic fix... Ah but see thats just it. You can add content upon content all you want but when push comes to shove if the game is unbalanced and plays like crap the game will always be, regardless of the amount of content you give it, crap. Even if they put the game on a next gen console you cant cover up the fact that game plays like crap with new stuff. Sure people might let you get away with it for a while but eventually you will run out of ideas and content and people will be right back at it telling CCP that the game is crap and needs to be fixed.
Your both right though. Its shite either way sadly.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:43:00 -
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Leanna Boghin wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Horizen Kenpachi wrote:Dose sony want dust on ps4 ? Hopefully, please do not subtly p!ss in my cornflakes lol. Guess you will have to wait and see. All i can say is this. Wish in one hand crap in the other and see which one fills up faster.
Hahaha quality.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Lucrezia LeGrand
343
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:45:00 -
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Leanna Boghin wrote:gbghg wrote:Leanna Boghin wrote:[quote=gbghg][quote=Dalmont Legrand] oh i know, but balance is something of a separate issue to upgrading to ps4, upgrading hardware would allow for bigger maps, more diverse maps, smoother framerates etc. as i said, upgrading to the ps4 is no magic fix... Ah but see thats just it. You can add content upon content all you want but when push comes to shove if the game is unbalanced and plays like crap the game will always be, regardless of the amount of content you give it, crap. Even if they put the game on a next gen console you cant cover up the fact that game plays like crap with new stuff. Sure people might let you get away with it for a while but eventually you will run out of ideas and content and people will be right back at it telling CCP that the game is crap and needs to be fixed. but I get the impression that CCP has built itself into a corner where they can't reach a point in the future where Dust will be complete. By releasing such an early build to the public they created a community that will demand new content from here to eternity because it will always "feel" beta.
That being said, I'm really enjoying dust right now. I was getting angry because I kept dying for stupid reasons on my main and losing good equipment to tanks, so I made an alt (ayanami zero). It's brutally hard having next to no sp, and using only militia items, but once I stopped caring about dying, or risking isk, the game became fun again.
Thale groupie
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.27 19:00:00 -
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Leanna Boghin wrote:gbghg wrote:Leanna Boghin wrote:[quote=gbghg][quote=Dalmont Legrand] oh i know, but balance is something of a separate issue to upgrading to ps4, upgrading hardware would allow for bigger maps, more diverse maps, smoother framerates etc. as i said, upgrading to the ps4 is no magic fix... Ah but see thats just it. You can add content upon content all you want but when push comes to shove if the game is unbalanced and plays like crap the game will always be, regardless of the amount of content you give it, crap. Even if they put the game on a next gen console you cant cover up the fact that game plays like crap with new stuff. Sure people might let you get away with it for a while but eventually you will run out of ideas and content and people will be right back at it telling CCP that the game is crap and needs to be fixed. people will always be telling ccp that the game is crap and needs to be fixed, perfect imbalance is like utopia, good to aim for, impossible to achieve, my point is that upgrading hardware opens up new possibilities, new maps, higher player counts etc, it can fix secondary issues. primary issues like game balance will always be an ongoing concern, there will always be something that is op and something that is underpowered. as i have said multiple times now, upgrading hardware won't fix game balance, but it could allow for better maps, framerates, graphics etc.
Lv 4 forum warrior
Bringer of Bacon
Knight of AMV's
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.27 19:10:00 -
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Stuff.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
952
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Posted - 2014.02.27 19:13:00 -
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How will getting dust on PS4 help it become fun?
Assassination is my thing.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.27 19:15:00 -
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The battles on ps4 with 32 a side would be fking epic! Think about how great it would be provided the terrain and features were buffed up a bit.
Surely you could sort out a small team to start work on it at least?
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.27 19:16:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:How will getting dust on PS4 help it become fun?
You have a brain.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1355
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Posted - 2014.02.27 19:58:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:General John Ripper wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:It just isn't, especially after a year now watching you push the aurum and the same old bs with the occasional sprinkles that are fun for 2 months tops.
I'm not quitting either, I just thought I'd point out that your game is still sht ccp.
I got a ps4 and after playing bf4 its clear that you need to start working on getting dust on the ps4, while playing bf4 I can't help but think that dust would be amazing on the ps4.
You could keep the graphics low as well so there can be more content and maybe even push 40 a side.
I know planet side 2 is coming to ps4 but it'll getting boring quickly as theres no immersion. The fact you are laser focussed on the ps4 tells me that you have given up and will just a bits here and there or that Sony has you by the balls somewhere in your contract, sort it out. I quit dust because it was turning me into an alcoholic. I wondered where you'd been. If I'm playing after iv gotten some sensi, its gone pronto lol. well I left for a month and then I was about to come back but then I was banned for 2 weeks so i just decided to stay gone. Now I am just waiting for 1.8 . Dust for me only feels fun when I am drunk...
Amen to that brutha! Ever seen that skit on Funny or Die called Drunk History? That is how I play DUST.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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