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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:25:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:I bet you are fun at parties.
he's right though, bf4 on the ps4 is a blast, if dust could be half as good as that it would be great. i mean it has 64 player battles, destructible environments, a somewhat decent balance between infantry and vehicles (imo tanks are a little too glassy at times), and it has commander mode.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:49:00 -
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Dalmont Legrand wrote:This will bring that elimination of free subscription due to obligatory subscription for PS+, most will leave it, some won't buy it, DUST must be present on both consoles to be cool,~but it will be unfair to those that pay for PS+ for PS4. Now paying PS+ subscription from DUST with ISK can be possible on PS4 but then agaion it will be able with the only game.
not necessarily, games like blacklight and other titles don't require the ps+ subscriptions, the same thing could be done with dust, or some form of ingame subscription method like plex could be figured out. i honestly think dust needs better hardware, how many times have the devs said that they would love to do something but the hardware wasn't good enough to support it? switching to the ps4 would likely require dust to be taken down and for a whole new closed beta to test it, but if it leads to a better game it should be undertaken. it has to be said though, its not like a hardware upgrade will magical fix the game, the devs are slow on promised features and patches, probably due to a lack of manpower and experience (though that is one thing they've undoubtedly got more of the last year), and game balance is still in a place no one is happy with, eve offers the chance to escalate or retreat, dust doesn't.
i respect CCP Shanghai for what they've done so far, and i've had some of my best time gaming on dust, hell i met up with L.O.T.I.S. and a bunch of people who are fun to play with on here, so you guys have the social bit down pat, but ultimately dust is just so infuriating to play, its a good game at times, it truly has its moment but for every good moment there's 5 bad ones, and no one can continually lose their stuff, which took a lot of time and effort to get to cheap, over powered game mechanics.
dust has so much potential, but the execution so far has been lacking, i don't blame the devs for it, i think a lot of it is down to lack of manpower and inexperience and that if i come back a few years down the line the game will have come so far, but right now the game just makes me too angry to play.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 18:27:00 -
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Leanna Boghin wrote:gbghg wrote:[quote=Dalmont Legrand] I can agree with what your saying however i cant agree with it for this reason. How can they put a game on a new gen console when they can even work out all the issue with the game on the PS3 console? Currently at this time if PS4 was allowed to have Dust 514 the game would fail within a year if not less. Think about it they are saying to you that they cant do this or cant do that because of a hardware issue yet the current game still isnt even balanced enough to be called a game and it should technically still be in Beta phase. BTW the above was edited thanks to the extremely limited space the PS3 onscreen keyborad alots you for typing.
oh i know, but balance is something of a separate issue to upgrading to ps4, upgrading hardware would allow for bigger maps, more diverse maps, smoother framerates etc. as i said, upgrading to the ps4 is no magic fix but it could enable a huge range of quality of life features which would deal with quite a few complaints. that said it would be a huge undertaking and would require a huge amount of patience from the community. game balance is another issue entirely, right now i think the devs are trying to juggle too many things at once and those things are too diverse. i mean look at AV, there's light av and heavy av, trying to balance tanks agianst heavy av makes them too tanky agianst light av, balancing them against light av makes them too squishy to heavy av. we've seen what happens in the latter case, vehicle pilots feel their very expensive assets are basically free wp for av'ers and more than a few quit. when we balamce against heavy av however light av users feel their role is now worthless since they now get no wp income, since they can only damage not destroy vehicles.
honeslty i know CCP makes efforts to fix these things but part of the problem is how long it takes updates to happen, when swarms were buffed in 1.4 we were promised a vehicle buff to compensate in 1.5 a month later, now one month is long enough as it is, it allows certain players to believe the current balance is the correct one (looking at you swarmers) but the vehcile buff didn't come till 1.7 3 whole months later. the problem is that ccp makes 1 change in one patch, then a change that balances out the 1st one on another patch, that however leaves a period of imbalance that provides ccp biased information and poisions the community with the same biased views, we think "swarms are this powerful against current tanks, hence they should be nerfed against new tanks", so come next update tanks (which previously might have been balanced against swarms before the biased data beget a nerf) get buffed and swarms get nerfed, now swarms just get shrugged off.
it's like blams stupid idea to introduce AA tanks years before fighters would be introduced (thank god that idea got scrapped) it just leads to unnecessary nerfs and poisons the community's views on things.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 19:00:00 -
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Leanna Boghin wrote:gbghg wrote:Leanna Boghin wrote:[quote=gbghg][quote=Dalmont Legrand] oh i know, but balance is something of a separate issue to upgrading to ps4, upgrading hardware would allow for bigger maps, more diverse maps, smoother framerates etc. as i said, upgrading to the ps4 is no magic fix... Ah but see thats just it. You can add content upon content all you want but when push comes to shove if the game is unbalanced and plays like crap the game will always be, regardless of the amount of content you give it, crap. Even if they put the game on a next gen console you cant cover up the fact that game plays like crap with new stuff. Sure people might let you get away with it for a while but eventually you will run out of ideas and content and people will be right back at it telling CCP that the game is crap and needs to be fixed.
people will always be telling ccp that the game is crap and needs to be fixed, perfect imbalance is like utopia, good to aim for, impossible to achieve, my point is that upgrading hardware opens up new possibilities, new maps, higher player counts etc, it can fix secondary issues. primary issues like game balance will always be an ongoing concern, there will always be something that is op and something that is underpowered. as i have said multiple times now, upgrading hardware won't fix game balance, but it could allow for better maps, framerates, graphics etc.
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