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WolfeXXVII NECROM0NGERS 16	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:09:00 - [1] - Quote the title says it all gk.0 scout 4 the win Optimization 5 in 7 weapons and counting,SP from all characters:-113,895,000- CLOSED BETA VET.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 969	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:12:00 - [2] - Quote No. Heavies need less turning speed, and they'll be balanced. Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1184	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:12:00 - [3] - Quote No. Provide an actual argument and I'll provide an actual response. Until then, just no.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4698	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:13:00 - [4] - Quote 2/10 Keep working on your technique. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 129	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:14:00 - [5] - Quote WTF!? you talkin about heavys already have enough hp and dmg with the hmg for assaults really more range pick a better weapon and be more specific. sorry about being a dooche but your not breaking this game for me because of you ignorance. Caldari Loyalist
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries 277	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:14:00 - [6] - Quote That's the last thing they need is more hp It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 129	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:15:00 - [7] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: 2/10 Keep working on your technique. lisen to him and I wont pop up again. Caldari Loyalist
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1330	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:20:00 - [8] - Quote Yeah, I agree with you. They are way to easy to take down. Especially those guys with the rail rifles.... I mean, why do the even try?? Seriously, like what 1200 HP? HA! And they turn way to slow already.... we need to give them a speed buff, turning radius buff, drop the price of the suit, allow them to equip a light weapon in their sidearm slot, and give them an integrated jet-pack so they can get to the prime tower forge-sniping spots. Really, heavies are a total joke. Anyone that plays them just want's to prove that they are elitists that like "hard mode" And don't even get me started on assaults. I can't even remember the last time I saw anyone even wear that ridiculous suit with an LOL rifle.... Double posting like a Kaiser. (Homage to Ghost Kaiser's impeccable forum etiquette)
WolfeXXVII NECROM0NGERS 16	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:23:00 - [9] - Quote let me explain first things first heavy suits are supposed to weigh half a ton of metal so yes that alone deserves them to have 3-4X hp on assault suits. they are carrying around a massive basicly future equivalent of a m134 minigun which can tear a humvee apart. and now its the future the power of this thing should be overwhelming to the point where its ttk should stay the same and all other weapons should be nerfed quite a bit other than the FG and we all understand why that is. assaults need the range to combat the new improved heavies and that alone should be enough. and i know everyone of you are assault chars. so saying that my points aren't true is complete BS, and your doing BSing just so it makes the game easier for you. i have spent way to long loving the way they set things up in chromozome just so you assault a holes can just come in and ruin the way it was. btw chromozome was the best time of this game. any who say differently need to burn in hell. everything was balanced before uprising save a few things and they could have fixed those and released it as is. no op logi suits no op light weapons no op anything that didn't deserve to be so. gk.0 scout 4 the win Optimization 5 in 7 weapons and counting,SP from all characters:-113,895,000- CLOSED BETA VET.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4698	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:23:00 - [10] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Yeah, I agree with you. They are way to easy to take down. Especially those guys with the rail rifles.... I mean, why do the even try?? Seriously, like what 1200 HP? HA! And they turn way to slow already.... we need to give them a speed buff, turning radius buff, drop the price of the suit, allow them to equip a light weapon in their sidearm slot, and give them an integrated jet-pack so they can get to the prime tower forge-sniping spots. Really, heavies are a total joke. Anyone that plays them just want's to prove that they are elitists that like "hard mode" And don't even get me started on assaults. I can't even remember the last time I saw anyone even wear that ridiculous suit with an LOL rifle.... I assume you're not up to date on coming changes. Or a troll. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)

JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 130	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:24:00 - [11] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Yeah, I agree with you. They are way to easy to take down. Especially those guys with the rail rifles.... I mean, why do the even try?? Seriously, like what 1200 HP? HA! And they turn way to slow already.... we need to give them a speed buff, turning radius buff, drop the price of the suit, allow them to equip a light weapon in their sidearm slot, and give them an integrated jet-pack so they can get to the prime tower forge-sniping spots. Really, heavies are a total joke. Anyone that plays them just want's to prove that they are elitists that like "hard mode" And don't even get me started on assaults. I can't even remember the last time I saw anyone even wear that ridiculous suit with an LOL rifle.... Your a troll aren't you? Caldari Loyalist
WolfeXXVII NECROM0NGERS 16	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:24:00 - [12] - Quote WolfeXXVII wrote: let me explain first things first heavy suits are supposed to weigh half a ton of metal so yes that alone deserves them to have 3-4X hp on assault suits. they are carrying around a massive basicly future equivalent of a m134 minigun which can tear a humvee apart. and now its the future the power of this thing should be overwhelming to the point where its ttk should stay the same and all other weapons should be nerfed quite a bit other than the FG and we all understand why that is. assaults need the range to combat the new improved heavies and that alone should be enough. and i know everyone of you are assault chars. so saying that my points aren't true is complete BS, and your doing BSing just so it makes the game easier for you. i have spent way to long loving the way they set things up in chromozome just so you assault a holes can just come in and ruin the way it was. btw chromozome was the best time of this game. any who say differently need to burn in hell. everything was balanced before uprising save a few things and they could have fixed those and released it as is. no op logi suits no op light weapons no op anything that didn't deserve to be so. this is being realistic not anything past that and heavies need to be significantly more expensive assaults need a slight price decrease too gk.0 scout 4 the win Optimization 5 in 7 weapons and counting,SP from all characters:-113,895,000- CLOSED BETA VET.
WolfeXXVII NECROM0NGERS 16	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:25:00 - [13] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: Yeah, I agree with you. They are way to easy to take down. Especially those guys with the rail rifles.... I mean, why do the even try?? Seriously, like what 1200 HP? HA! And they turn way to slow already.... we need to give them a speed buff, turning radius buff, drop the price of the suit, allow them to equip a light weapon in their sidearm slot, and give them an integrated jet-pack so they can get to the prime tower forge-sniping spots. Really, heavies are a total joke. Anyone that plays them just want's to prove that they are elitists that like "hard mode" And don't even get me started on assaults. I can't even remember the last time I saw anyone even wear that ridiculous suit with an LOL rifle.... Your a troll aren't you? of course he is gk.0 scout 4 the win Optimization 5 in 7 weapons and counting,SP from all characters:-113,895,000- CLOSED BETA VET.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 542	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:28:00 - [14] - Quote WolfeXXVII wrote: let me explain first things first heavy suits are supposed to weigh half a ton of metal so yes that alone deserves them to have 3-4X hp on assault suits. they are carrying around a massive basicly future equivalent of a m134 minigun which can tear a humvee apart. and now its the future the power of this thing should be overwhelming to the point where its ttk should stay the same and all other weapons should be nerfed quite a bit other than the FG and we all understand why that is. assaults need the range to combat the new improved heavies and that alone should be enough. and i know everyone of you are assault chars. so saying that my points aren't true is complete BS, and your doing BSing just so it makes the game easier for you. i have spent way to long loving the way they set things up in chromozome just so you assault a holes can just come in and ruin the way it was. btw chromozome was the best time of this game. any who say differently need to burn in hell. everything was balanced before uprising save a few things and they could have fixed those and released it as is. no op logi suits no op light weapons no op anything that didn't deserve to be so. I see what hes doing here guys. He's using the same logic that many tankers have been trying to use to justify their reasoning in requiring 3 AV to take them down. I'll give you a +1 sir, whether it was intentional or not.
WolfeXXVII NECROM0NGERS 16	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:30:00 - [15] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: WolfeXXVII wrote: let me explain first things first heavy suits are supposed to weigh half a ton of metal so yes that alone deserves them to have 3-4X hp on assault suits. they are carrying around a massive basicly future equivalent of a m134 minigun which can tear a humvee apart. and now its the future the power of this thing should be overwhelming to the point where its ttk should stay the same and all other weapons should be nerfed quite a bit other than the FG and we all understand why that is. assaults need the range to combat the new improved heavies and that alone should be enough. and i know everyone of you are assault chars. so saying that my points aren't true is complete BS, and your doing BSing just so it makes the game easier for you. i have spent way to long loving the way they set things up in chromozome just so you assault a holes can just come in and ruin the way it was. btw chromozome was the best time of this game. any who say differently need to burn in hell. everything was balanced before uprising save a few things and they could have fixed those and released it as is. no op logi suits no op light weapons no op anything that didn't deserve to be so. I see what hes doing here guys. He's using the same logic that many tankers have been trying to use to justify their reasoning in requiring 3 AV to take them down. I'll give you a +1 sir, whether it was intentional or not. sort of the FG is still too weak a good FG should be able to send a tank running or if its stupid enough to sit there for an entire clip be taken out. swarms are where they should be in my opinion. PLCs are getting a bough so that's about it for av Optimization 5 in 7 weapons and counting SP from all characters:-162,289,000- CLOSED BETA VET.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1332	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:30:00 - [16] - Quote @ Sinboto. Really dude? You don't know I'm a scout trolling....? Thanks. Of course I'm trolling.... my sarcastic side comes out when people post what on the surface looks to be an illogical post without any rationale.... You is make me sad. Whatever, you are scout-brother so we cool! Double posting like a Kaiser. (Homage to Ghost Kaiser's impeccable forum etiquette)
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 972	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:33:00 - [17] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Yeah, I agree with you. They are way to easy to take down. Especially those guys with the rail rifles.... I mean, why do the even try?? Seriously, like what 1200 HP? HA! And they turn way to slow already.... we need to give them a speed buff, turning radius buff, drop the price of the suit, allow them to equip a light weapon in their sidearm slot, and give them an integrated jet-pack so they can get to the prime tower forge-sniping spots. Really, heavies are a total joke. Anyone that plays them just want's to prove that they are elitists that like "hard mode" And don't even get me started on assaults. I can't even remember the last time I saw anyone even wear that ridiculous suit with an LOL rifle.... ill give it a 9/10. Pretty funny Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7652	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:34:00 - [18] - Quote WolfeXXVII wrote: the title says it all Meh in New Eden the term Assault in relation to military assets refers to mobile DPS platforms or hulls. Assault Suit- DPS + Mobility Scout- Mobility + Stealth Heavy- Armour +DPS Logi - Utility "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 1751	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:35:00 - [19] - Quote Heavies actually have more EHP in 1.8... unfortunately. Heavies spam will already give your squad a horrific advantage, go figure when they'll have more EHP. >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
WolfeXXVII NECROM0NGERS 16	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:36:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: WolfeXXVII wrote: the title says it all Meh in New Eden the term Assault in relation to military assets refers to mobile DPS platforms or hulls. Assault Suit- DPS + Mobility Scout- Mobility + Stealth Heavy- Armour +DPS Logi - Utility i agree with you except that heavies are carrying around absolutely massive guns and the sad thing is that the HMG is weaker than the combat rifle which really should not be the case Optimization 5 in 7 weapons and counting SP from all characters:-162,289,000- CLOSED BETA VET.

Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4699	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:36:00 - [21] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: @ Sinboto. Really dude? You don't know I'm a scout trolling....? Thanks. Of course I'm trolling.... my sarcastic side comes out when people post what on the surface looks to be an illogical post without any rationale.... You is make me sad. Whatever, you are scout-brother so we cool! Damn it man completely bombed it! Flips table Come on man you gotta forum PvP harder! Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 130	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:36:00 - [22] - Quote Wolfe I am a assaults really we already have enough range with rr and scr look at the dont be an idiot and know it should be heavys have high hp wich they do or low prices which they do depending on tier and there ment to be slow. And no they should not be 3-4x assaults a 400 sheild 300 armor assault would = 1600 sheild 1200 armor heavys. do your math before throwing out facts. Caldari Loyalist
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 184	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:37:00 - [23] - Quote WolfeXXVII wrote: the title says it all you must be on drugs Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden -ill b there SoonGäó KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 130	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:38:00 - [24] - Quote Wolfe I am a assaults really we already have enough range with rr and scr look at the dont be an idiot and know it should be heavys have high hp wich they do or low prices which they do depending on tier and there ment to be slow. And no they should not be 3-4x assaults a 400 sheild 300 armor assault would = 1600 sheild 1200 armor heavys. do your math before throwing out facts.sorry i double posted Caldari Loyalist
WolfeXXVII NECROM0NGERS 16	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:39:00 - [25] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Wolfe I am a assaults really we already have enough range with rr and scr look at the dont be an idiot and know it should be heavys have high hp wich they do or low prices which they do depending on tier and there ment to be slow. And no they should not be 3-4x assaults a 400 sheild 300 armor assault would = 1600 sheild 1200 armor heavys. do your math before throwing out facts. first of the 3-4X was a random fact i threw out and it was meant to be an exaggeration and i said that heavies should be really expensive compared to the assaults which might i add are way overpriced. i do have skills into everything dude im not biased im being realistic Optimization 5 in 7 weapons and counting SP from all characters:-162,289,000- CLOSED BETA VET.
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1187	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:41:00 - [26] - Quote WolfeXXVII wrote: let me explain first things first heavy suits are supposed to weigh half a ton of metal so yes that alone deserves them to have 3-4X hp on assault suits. they are carrying around a massive basicly future equivalent of a m134 minigun which can tear a humvee apart. and now its the future the power of this thing should be overwhelming to the point where its ttk should stay the same and all other weapons should be nerfed quite a bit other than the FG and we all understand why that is. assaults need the range to combat the new improved heavies and that alone should be enough. and i know everyone of you are assault chars. so saying that my points aren't true is complete BS, and your doing BSing just so it makes the game easier for you. i have spent way to long loving the way they set things up in chromozome just so you assault a holes can just come in and ruin the way it was. btw chromozome was the best time of this game. any who say differently need to burn in hell. everything was balanced before uprising save a few things and they could have fixed those and released it as is. no op logi suits no op light weapons no op anything that didn't deserve to be so. A few tips. 1. Arguing from real life or "zomg its future stuff" is never going to hold water. Good game design owes reality nothing at all. 2. Capitalization is your friend. 3. You can't possibly know that we're all assaults, and asserting that you do only makes you sound idiotic. In fact, over half of the people who have posted in this thread so far are scouts, heavies (right Roshi? I think?) or tankers. 4. You have offered no arguments as to why your suggestion would actually improve balance at all, only rants about "assault a holes" and assertions that "we all understand why that is". That's not very convincing, and you're not going to garner much support that way.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4700	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:42:00 - [27] - Quote WolfeXXVII wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Wolfe I am a assaults really we already have enough range with rr and scr look at the dont be an idiot and know it should be heavys have high hp wich they do or low prices which they do depending on tier and there ment to be slow. And no they should not be 3-4x assaults a 400 sheild 300 armor assault would = 1600 sheild 1200 armor heavys. do your math before throwing out facts. first of the 3-4X was a random fact i threw out and it was meant to be an exaggeration and i said that heavies should be really expensive compared to the assaults which might i add are way overpriced. i do have skills into everything dude im not biased im being realistic Just gonna comment here: Assault Logi Scout Sentinel All T2 frames, it's the basic suits that need to cost less and the T2 frames that need to cost more. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 131	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:43:00 - [28] - Quote WolfeXXVII wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Wolfe I am a assaults really we already have enough range with rr and scr look at the dont be an idiot and know it should be heavys have high hp wich they do or low prices which they do depending on tier and there ment to be slow. And no they should not be 3-4x assaults a 400 sheild 300 armor assault would = 1600 sheild 1200 armor heavys. do your math before throwing out facts. first of the 3-4X was a random fact i threw out and it was meant to be an exaggeration and i said that heavies should be really expensive compared to the assaults which might i add are way overpriced. i do have skills into everything dude im not biased im being realistic The fits that I make with heavys are not even over 30k with adv hmg m1 grenade kil0-scr pistol and 600 shield 700 armor. -_- Caldari Loyalist
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4700	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:44:00 - [29] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: WolfeXXVII wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Wolfe I am a assaults really we already have enough range with rr and scr look at the dont be an idiot and know it should be heavys have high hp wich they do or low prices which they do depending on tier and there ment to be slow. And no they should not be 3-4x assaults a 400 sheild 300 armor assault would = 1600 sheild 1200 armor heavys. do your math before throwing out facts. first of the 3-4X was a random fact i threw out and it was meant to be an exaggeration and i said that heavies should be really expensive compared to the assaults which might i add are way overpriced. i do have skills into everything dude im not biased im being realistic The fits that I make with heavys are not even over 30k with hmg m1 grenade kil0-scr pistol and 600 shield 700 armor. -_- Which is odd for an Amarr suit. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
WolfeXXVII NECROM0NGERS 16	Posted - 2014.02.27 02:48:00 - [30] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: WolfeXXVII wrote: let me explain first things first heavy suits are supposed to weigh half a ton of metal so yes that alone deserves them to have 3-4X hp on assault suits. they are carrying around a massive basicly future equivalent of a m134 minigun which can tear a humvee apart. and now its the future the power of this thing should be overwhelming to the point where its ttk should stay the same and all other weapons should be nerfed quite a bit other than the FG and we all understand why that is. assaults need the range to combat the new improved heavies and that alone should be enough. and i know everyone of you are assault chars. so saying that my points aren't true is complete BS, and your doing BSing just so it makes the game easier for you. i have spent way to long loving the way they set things up in chromozome just so you assault a holes can just come in and ruin the way it was. btw chromozome was the best time of this game. any who say differently need to burn in hell. everything was balanced before uprising save a few things and they could have fixed those and released it as is. no op logi suits no op light weapons no op anything that didn't deserve to be so. A few tips. 1. Arguing from real life or "zomg its future stuff" is never going to hold water. Good game design owes reality nothing at all. 2. Capitalization is your friend. 3. You can't possibly know that we're all assaults, and asserting that you do only makes you sound idiotic. In fact, over half of the people who have posted in this thread so far are scouts, heavies (right Roshi? I think?) or tankers. 4. You have offered no arguments as to why your suggestion would actually improve balance at all, only rants about "assault a holes" and assertions that "we all understand why that is". That's not very convincing, and you're not going to garner much support that way. 1. i was only going for realism and if you think about it, it should hold water 2. i am a master capitalist and i have a character that strictly does FOTM because i have to to keep my wallets full(i really hate that fact) 3.that one was spoken out of turn and i was mostly talking about jarrel on that one sorry to the scout guys. plus most tankers are assaults too. 4. and i realize it sounds ranty" it was kinda intended that way people post over and over on rants and it gets to the top very fast because of that(its a forum tactic you obviously haven't thought about yet) 5. thnx for trying to be helpful but most of what I've said havs been said is either meant to **** off people or to be realistic no ik its in the future but when a massive ass version of a weapon is weaker than the lighter one there is a massive problem especially because SMGs are better than a HMG(it's a sidearm even talking game mechanics it shouldn't do that) Optimization 5 in 7 weapons and counting SP from all characters:-162,289,000- CLOSED BETA VET.



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