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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:22:00 -
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The warning sound for proximity mines needs to go. Its allready easy enough to spot them if you pay attention but this makes it even worse by alerting the driver to not move any further. In my opinion a passive explosive scanner module should do the job and not be a inbuilt feature.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:39:00 -
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Nope
Not until i can have an explosive detector that i can put on my suit
Intelligence is OP
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:47:00 -
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Explosive detector ???? Not really necessary when you can clearly see the PE
Explosive traps are easy to avoid, you hardly need a detector as well ...
I didn't realize that PE made that sound until recently.....
It's not good , there is already an impossible task of AV
And while HAV's stack hardeners ....
We get mines that don't detonate correctly and make a warning sound
To implement a detector, when you could just use your eyes is pointless...
Plasma Cannon will have its chance if AR/HAV 514 is ever fixed
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:48:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Nope
Not until i can have an explosive detector that i can put on my suit
Equip a scanner.
Yes, 20,000 years in the future, advances in technology made it necessary for mines to have sound. 
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:02:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Nope
Not until i can have an explosive detector that i can put on my suit Equip a scanner. Yes, 20,000 years in the future, advances in technology made it necessary for mines to have sound.
Cant use a scanner in a vehicle, vehicle scanners do not pick up RE/Proxy mines either
Also my HAV makes mines make a sound by calling out there names
Intelligence is OP
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:13:00 -
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Is this another 'your crutch is OP but mine is OK' thread?
What am I saying, this is DUST, of course it is.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:19:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Nope
Not until i can have an explosive detector that i can put on my suit Equip a scanner. Yes, 20,000 years in the future, advances in technology made it necessary for mines to have sound.
Its the tank that detects and makes sounds not the mines |
Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:22:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Explosive detector ???? Not really necessary when you can clearly see the PE
Explosive traps are easy to avoid, you hardly need a detector as well ...
I didn't realize that PE made that sound until recently.....
It's not good , there is already an impossible task of AV
And while HAV's stack hardeners ....
We get mines that don't detonate correctly and make a warning sound
To implement a detector, when you could just use your eyes is pointless...
They don't alway render right away and im pretty sure hardner stacking was a simply mistake which they will fix but let me make you an offer i'll glady give up my warning sounds when you lose your ability to equipment spam |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2037
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:24:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Nope
Not until i can have an explosive detector that i can put on my suit
Active Scanner
Combat Engineer in training.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2037
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:28:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:TheD1CK wrote:Explosive detector ???? Not really necessary when you can clearly see the PE
Explosive traps are easy to avoid, you hardly need a detector as well ...
I didn't realize that PE made that sound until recently.....
It's not good , there is already an impossible task of AV
And while HAV's stack hardeners ....
We get mines that don't detonate correctly and make a warning sound
To implement a detector, when you could just use your eyes is pointless... They don't alway render right away and im pretty sure hardner stacking was a simply mistake which they will fix but let me make you an offer i'll glady give up my warning sounds when you lose your ability to equipment spam
Seems fair, equipment only stays active so long as you are wearing the fit to which the equipment belongs.
Combat Engineer in training.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3247
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:43:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:The warning sound for proximity mines needs to go. Its allready easy enough to spot them if you pay attention but this makes it even worse by alerting the driver to not move any further. In my opinion a passive explosive scanner module should do the job and not be a inbuilt feature.
Meh. Unless you're moving at a snail's pace, it's usually already too late once you hear the beeping. Your momentum has sealed your fate.
No.
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:58:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:The dark cloud wrote:The warning sound for proximity mines needs to go. Its allready easy enough to spot them if you pay attention but this makes it even worse by alerting the driver to not move any further. In my opinion a passive explosive scanner module should do the job and not be a inbuilt feature. Meh. Unless you're moving at a snail's pace, it's usually already too late once you hear the beeping. Your momentum has sealed your fate.
yeah thats what tends to get me but I like how some are smart and put it in a path I took alot in that match and catches me off gaurd but once I take that first hit or death I tend to keep an eye out afterwards |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:03:00 -
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What is actually the detection range of the tank when it notices the mines? I don't use a tank so I don't know.
Another: (and this one is stupid)
Does the vehicle need to have physical contact to the proximity mines before they explode?
But I agree with the OP. Get rid of the sound. It would be nice to once get a tank with proximities.
There's two-fold problem with them:
HAV's detect them too easily.
LAV's run over them too fast.
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
188
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:06:00 -
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Repe Susi wrote:What is actually the detection range of the tank when it notices the mines? I don't use a tank so I don't know.
Another: (and this one is stupid)
Does the vehicle need to have physical contact to the proximity mines before they explode?
But I agree with the OP. Get rid of the sound. It would be nice to once get a tank with proximities.
There's two-fold problem with them:
HAV's detect them too easily.
LAV's run over them too fast.
it can vary sometimes around 20-30m away and you will hear warning and no you don't have to make contact as sometimes they will indeed go off from you just being near them |
Lanius Pulvis
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
154
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:16:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Nope
Not until i can have an explosive detector that i can put on my suit Active Scanner
Scanners don't pick up explosives.
Not new, just new to you.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2687
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:31:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Nope
Not until i can have an explosive detector that i can put on my suit Active Scanner
Like i said doesnt work in vehicles
Intelligence is OP
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2038
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:35:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Nope
Not until i can have an explosive detector that i can put on my suit Active Scanner Like i said doesnt work in vehicles
You didn't say that orginally, you said that you could put on your suit.
not you could put on your suit and use in your vehicle.
And no you can't have that, work with your infantry like a good little tanker.
Combat Engineer in training.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2687
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Posted - 2014.02.24 13:58:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Nope
Not until i can have an explosive detector that i can put on my suit Active Scanner Like i said doesnt work in vehicles You didn't say that orginally, you said that you could put on your suit. not you could put on your suit and use in your vehicle. And no you can't have that, work with your infantry like a good little tanker.
I can put it on my pilot suit which works in tandem with the vehicle
Intelligence is OP
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2038
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:04:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Nope
Not until i can have an explosive detector that i can put on my suit Active Scanner Like i said doesnt work in vehicles You didn't say that orginally, you said that you could put on your suit. not you could put on your suit and use in your vehicle. And no you can't have that, work with your infantry like a good little tanker. I can put it on my pilot suit which works in tandem with the vehicle
Once again, this obviously going to take time.
1) You did not ask for that
2) That completly negates the whole point of removing the sound in the first place how easy do you want it?
3) If you actually particpated in team work with friendly infantry it wouldn't be a problem.
Combat Engineer in training.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2687
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:07:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:
Once again, this obviously going to take time.
1) You did not ask for that
2) That completly negates the whole point of removing the sound in the first place how easy do you want it?
3) If you actually particpated in team work with friendly infantry it wouldn't be a problem.
Add explosives detector to pilot suit
Pilot suit gets in vehicle and becomes one with the vehicle
Now on the HUD it highlights where explosives are to you and anyone else in the vehicle
Profit
Intelligence is OP
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:12:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Once again, this obviously going to take time.
1) You did not ask for that
2) That completly negates the whole point of removing the sound in the first place how easy do you want it?
3) If you actually particpated in team work with friendly infantry it wouldn't be a problem.
Add explosives detector to pilot suit Pilot suit gets in vehicle and becomes one with the vehicle Now on the HUD it highlights where explosives are to you and anyone else in the vehicle Profit
Wow.. I liked a Red Star post...
But, Yea, once the pilot suit comes out, explosives detectors would be a logical addition, though it could be a handy piece of equipment for infantry as well, though remotes on objectives are pretty simple to see, usually.
Of course, I'm assuming you mean within a certain radius, not just in general when you say it shows them on the HUD.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2039
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:13:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Once again, this obviously going to take time.
1) You did not ask for that
2) That completly negates the whole point of removing the sound in the first place how easy do you want it?
3) If you actually particpated in team work with friendly infantry it wouldn't be a problem.
Add explosives detector to pilot suit Pilot suit gets in vehicle and becomes one with the vehicle Now on the HUD it highlights where explosives are to you and anyone else in the vehicle Profit
So now we have to show you exactly where our traps are, bloody hell, I didn't think anyone could want it any easier.
How about no, instead improve PE to 2shot all tanks without having stack 72 RE's nearby, which are easily visible.
Combat Engineer in training.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2688
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:18:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Once again, this obviously going to take time.
1) You did not ask for that
2) That completly negates the whole point of removing the sound in the first place how easy do you want it?
3) If you actually particpated in team work with friendly infantry it wouldn't be a problem.
Add explosives detector to pilot suit Pilot suit gets in vehicle and becomes one with the vehicle Now on the HUD it highlights where explosives are to you and anyone else in the vehicle Profit So now we have to show you exactly where our traps are, bloody hell, I didn't think anyone could want it any easier. How about no, instead improve PE to 2shot all tanks without having stack 72 RE's nearby, which are easily visible.
MAG did it and i dont remember anyone complaining about that feature
Intelligence is OP
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2041
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:20:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Once again, this obviously going to take time.
1) You did not ask for that
2) That completly negates the whole point of removing the sound in the first place how easy do you want it?
3) If you actually particpated in team work with friendly infantry it wouldn't be a problem.
Add explosives detector to pilot suit Pilot suit gets in vehicle and becomes one with the vehicle Now on the HUD it highlights where explosives are to you and anyone else in the vehicle Profit So now we have to show you exactly where our traps are, bloody hell, I didn't think anyone could want it any easier. How about no, instead improve PE to 2shot all tanks without having stack 72 RE's nearby, which are easily visible. MAG did it and i dont remember anyone complaining about that feature
Were tanks easy to blow up in MAG?
Yes?
That's why.
Combat Engineer in training.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2688
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:24:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Once again, this obviously going to take time.
1) You did not ask for that
2) That completly negates the whole point of removing the sound in the first place how easy do you want it?
3) If you actually particpated in team work with friendly infantry it wouldn't be a problem.
Add explosives detector to pilot suit Pilot suit gets in vehicle and becomes one with the vehicle Now on the HUD it highlights where explosives are to you and anyone else in the vehicle Profit So now we have to show you exactly where our traps are, bloody hell, I didn't think anyone could want it any easier. How about no, instead improve PE to 2shot all tanks without having stack 72 RE's nearby, which are easily visible. MAG did it and i dont remember anyone complaining about that feature Were tanks easy to blow up in MAG? Yes? That's why.
It was an APC not a tank
You couldnt improve it in any way either
But you could improve your AV such as with the RPG
Also if you had PL/OIC and was a damn good driver like me you could keep it alive all game and get over 100 kill assists with it or keep the target vehicle alive in acq until the gate went down
Good times
I do this in DUST but now its OP :(
Intelligence is OP
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2041
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:32:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
So now we have to show you exactly where our traps are, bloody hell, I didn't think anyone could want it any easier.
How about no, instead improve PE to 2shot all tanks without having stack 72 RE's nearby, which are easily visible.
MAG did it and i dont remember anyone complaining about that feature Were tanks easy to blow up in MAG? Yes? That's why. It was an APC not a tank You couldnt improve it in any way either But you could improve your AV such as with the RPG Also if you had PL/OIC and was a damn good driver like me you could keep it alive all game and get over 100 kill assists with it or keep the target vehicle alive in acq until the gate went down Good times I do this in DUST but now its OP :(
So you had a troop transport, thats different. If we had MAV's I'd expect them to come with countermeasures like dropships(MAAV's) should have.
This is because they aren't offensive vehicles therefore the threat is not the vehicle itself, but what it carries.
And APC is near pointless if it isn't dropping of troops.
Combat Engineer in training.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:37:00 -
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Fix scanners to pick up explosives
Remove warning sound
???
Profit.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:41:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Once again, this obviously going to take time.
1) You did not ask for that
2) That completly negates the whole point of removing the sound in the first place how easy do you want it?
3) If you actually particpated in team work with friendly infantry it wouldn't be a problem.
Add explosives detector to pilot suit Pilot suit gets in vehicle and becomes one with the vehicle Now on the HUD it highlights where explosives are to you and anyone else in the vehicle Profit So now we have to show you exactly where our traps are, bloody hell, I didn't think anyone could want it any easier. How about no, instead improve PE to 2shot all tanks without having stack 72 RE's nearby, which are easily visible. MAG did it and i dont remember anyone complaining about that feature Were tanks easy to blow up in MAG? Yes? That's why.
But you forget 1 very important thing and that is that this is dust not mag and also you couldn't build fittings as well on mag as you can on dust and your vehicles didn't cost you game money to use which in dust it does and by the way saying you want PE's to 2 shot tanks is wanting to make tank killing easier than for us to have a warning system that alot of the time doens't even work until it's too late but then again most of you might not even know that |
Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
471
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:42:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:
Seems fair, equipment only stays active so long as you are wearing the fit to which the equipment belongs.
Not true with Remotes (unless hot fixed in past two weeks). I'm not sure about PE's, but probably the same. They last until destroyed, regardless of suit changes.
Pro-fit Prophet
"Gimme yo lunch money"
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2688
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:44:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
So now we have to show you exactly where our traps are, bloody hell, I didn't think anyone could want it any easier.
How about no, instead improve PE to 2shot all tanks without having stack 72 RE's nearby, which are easily visible.
MAG did it and i dont remember anyone complaining about that feature Were tanks easy to blow up in MAG? Yes? That's why. It was an APC not a tank You couldnt improve it in any way either But you could improve your AV such as with the RPG Also if you had PL/OIC and was a damn good driver like me you could keep it alive all game and get over 100 kill assists with it or keep the target vehicle alive in acq until the gate went down Good times I do this in DUST but now its OP :( So you had a troop transport, thats different. If we had MAV's I'd expect them to come with countermeasures like dropships(MAAV's) should have. This is because they aren't offensive vehicles therefore the threat is not the vehicle itself, but what it carries. And APC is near pointless if it isn't dropping of troops.
But on my person i had an explosives detector which highlighted mines and also claymores when i was in the vehicle
So why not on my pilot suit?
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