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Astrum Machina wrote:

Did somebody say MISSILES?

Well I watched your video. The hit and run tactic is definitely something that you need to consider as a Missiler. Especially with that fit you've got going on. There's nothing wrong with outputting tons of damage, and this may just be where our play styles differ, but I run a more survival shield-focused fitting.

Funnlogi
AT-201*
Complex Shield Hardener
Complex Shield Booster
Enhanced Damage Mod
Militia PG Upgrade

With this fit you can still output plenty of extra Damage with one Dmg Mod, and you have that nice fallback with the Booster if your shields fall too low or if a Rail Gun unexpectedly thumps you from a mile away.

I also noticed how you shot at those Dropships. Instead of just full autoing it, fire in aimed bursts and make sure you lead enough.

I recommend never ever relying on splash to take down infantry, try to get direct shots. With enough practice you'll be able to down a sprinting target from 100m away with only one or two or no misses. You'll usually one-shot most suits except Heavies, bricked out suits and some shield tanked suits.

*You could use an XT-201, but you'll need to add a CPU Upgrade and switch out the MLT PG Upgrade for a Basic or something like that. I use the AT-201 because money reasons.

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nakaya indigene 0uter.Heaven 120	Posted - 2014.02.24 06:57:00 - [1] - Quote I flail around with a missile tank. our team spammed tanks. I was able to show the missile tank at its near best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbpyLXGly3Q Let me know if you have comments or suggestions. The Jove espier --- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPGgRFDT9eYY1dMwb50luXw
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 525	Posted - 2014.02.24 06:59:00 - [2] - Quote nakaya indigene wrote: I flail around with a missile tank. our team spammed tanks. I was able to show the missile tank at its near best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbpyLXGly3Q Let me know if you have comments or suggestions. I saw a firndly xt missi,e tank vs an enemy gunlogi ion cannon tank The guy did no damage, missiles need fixing... 2 exile assault rifles, Skinweave cal. frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame Caldari Master Race One day shields, soon.
nakaya indigene 0uter.Heaven 120	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:11:00 - [3] - Quote NK Scout wrote: nakaya indigene wrote: I flail around with a missile tank. our team spammed tanks. I was able to show the missile tank at its near best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbpyLXGly3Q Let me know if you have comments or suggestions. I saw a firndly xt missi,e tank vs an enemy gunlogi ion cannon tank The guy did no damage, missiles need fixing... yeah.. missiles are too weak to shields. The Jove espier --- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPGgRFDT9eYY1dMwb50luXw
Astrum Machina Star Giants 0	Posted - 2014.02.24 08:12:00 - [4] - Quote Did somebody say MISSILES? Well I watched your video. The hit and run tactic is definitely something that you need to consider as a Missiler. Especially with that fit you've got going on. There's nothing wrong with outputting tons of damage, and this may just be where our play styles differ, but I run a more survival shield-focused fitting. Funnlogi AT-201* Complex Shield Hardener Complex Shield Booster Enhanced Damage Mod Militia PG Upgrade With this fit you can still output plenty of extra Damage with one Dmg Mod, and you have that nice fallback with the Booster if your shields fall too low or if a Rail Gun unexpectedly thumps you from a mile away. I also noticed how you shot at those Dropships. Instead of just full autoing it, fire in aimed bursts and make sure you lead enough. I recommend never ever relying on splash to take down infantry, try to get direct shots. With enough practice you'll be able to down a sprinting target from 100m away with only one or two or no misses. You'll usually one-shot most suits except Heavies, bricked out suits and some shield tanked suits. *You could use an XT-201, but you'll need to add a CPU Upgrade and switch out the MLT PG Upgrade for a Basic or something like that. I use the AT-201 because money reasons. My Missiles are propelled by the tears of a million armor Tankers.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1875	Posted - 2014.02.24 10:24:00 - [5] - Quote NK Scout wrote: nakaya indigene wrote: I flail around with a missile tank. our team spammed tanks. I was able to show the missile tank at its near best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbpyLXGly3Q Let me know if you have comments or suggestions. I saw a firndly xt missi,e tank vs an enemy gunlogi ion cannon tank The guy did no damage, missiles need fixing... So............. explosive damage should be more viable to shield? Why? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1875	Posted - 2014.02.24 10:25:00 - [6] - Quote nakaya indigene wrote: I flail around with a missile tank. our team spammed tanks. I was able to show the missile tank at its near best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbpyLXGly3Q Let me know if you have comments or suggestions. Lol Two different damage mods and one shield hardener? I'm not even going to watch the rest of the video. That's about as situational as you can get. That's the tank you destroy Taka or myself with when we're running armor. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2243	Posted - 2014.02.24 11:09:00 - [7] - Quote nakaya indigene wrote: I flail around with a missile tank. our team spammed tanks. I was able to show the missile tank at its near best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbpyLXGly3Q Let me know if you have comments or suggestions. Stopped watching cause you put armor modules and only 1 turret on a shield tank. If you went with just 1 damage mod an no armor mods you could easy fit 3 turrets but hey keep going to be a moron. Armor mods on shield tank are just as effective as throwing a flux grenade on a dude that has a gallente suit. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2687	Posted - 2014.02.24 11:45:00 - [8] - Quote lolfit Puts a plate on it so it moves slower but also turns slower making the agile Gunlogi not so agile and a armor hardener does not work really when you cant rep any armor back 2 diff dmg mods lol Intelligence is OP
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2395	Posted - 2014.02.24 12:02:00 - [9] - Quote You're probably the one tanker I actually respect in this game. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1287	Posted - 2014.02.24 12:04:00 - [10] - Quote When my friend considered missile tanking, I told him to add small rails for shields which worked wonderfully. Still very weak against proto rails, but if we see them first, it's basically a win.

Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 187	Posted - 2014.02.24 12:17:00 - [11] - Quote nakaya indigene wrote: NK Scout wrote: nakaya indigene wrote: I flail around with a missile tank. our team spammed tanks. I was able to show the missile tank at its near best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbpyLXGly3Q Let me know if you have comments or suggestions. I saw a firndly xt missi,e tank vs an enemy gunlogi ion cannon tank The guy did no damage, missiles need fixing... yeah.. missiles are too weak to shields. At the same time they way to powerful vs armor i mean yes they should kill armor tanks easy but not that easy
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 608	Posted - 2014.02.24 13:17:00 - [12] - Quote nakaya indigene wrote: I flail around with a missile tank. our team spammed tanks. I was able to show the missile tank at its near best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbpyLXGly3Q Let me know if you have comments or suggestions. I ran that exact fit when 1.7 dropped. VERY situational. The double damage mods leave you very vulnerable, but I will say that plate with a hardener makes a huge difference. And I swear I could fit double complex mods with a single hardener. I don't run this fit anymore though, not a fan of stacking damage mods. A couple other missile fits I like to run: Double hardened, with a single damage mod. A plate and hardener (typically run reps) Soma's drop in a volley, everything else I can get on the second volley, or third in some cases. My favorite fit though is my hit and run fit. Double hardened, nitro (same ol thing with lows) That nitro makes a huge difference when escaping and evading. When I come against shield tanks, I can force hardeners on, while using my speed mod to out distance and maneuver it. Once it's hardeners drop, I can use my own, and drop em in cooldown mode. Works well for dodging rail shots too. Tanks - Balancing Turrets
ThePlayerkyle13 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 68	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:15:00 - [13] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lolfit Puts a plate on it so it moves slower but also turns slower making the agile Gunlogi not so agile and a armor hardener does not work really when you cant rep any armor back 2 diff dmg mods lol You can rep armor on a tank by using a supply installation.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2688	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:17:00 - [14] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lolfit Puts a plate on it so it moves slower but also turns slower making the agile Gunlogi not so agile and a armor hardener does not work really when you cant rep any armor back 2 diff dmg mods lol You can rep armor on a tank by using a supply installation. Doesnt matter Once the shield is dropped its relying on armor which it cant rep back and only limit with a hardener and while armor gets hit shield wont come back So if a supply dept isnt around hes screwed unless he can make it back to the redline Intelligence is OP
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 621	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:23:00 - [15] - Quote Missile Tanks are the throwaway guns of the tank world. They are very effective against Armor at close range and best used when they get the drop but fall short at anything else; they are best used doing the one murder and discarded.
Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1787	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:24:00 - [16] - Quote Just 50 tanks on 1 map, nothing to see here I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1203	Posted - 2014.02.24 15:12:00 - [17] - Quote I like running around with a complex heavy shield extender, complex shield hardener, complex missile damage amplifier, PG expansion (forget which tier), and complex ammo expansion. My only problem is facing shield rail tanks at CQC. @Spkr, missiles should be more effective against shield than they are currently, because missiles are supposed to be CQC AV but a rail tank does that much more effectively, and it's supposed to be a ranged weapon! Don't you see something wrong with the balance here? I'll be fine if rail tanks can't track me at CQC but it's too easy for them to prevent me from out maneuvering them. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation Proficiency V. 103	Posted - 2014.02.24 15:13:00 - [18] - Quote Harpyja wrote: I like running around with a complex heavy shield extender, complex shield hardener, complex missile damage amplifier, PG expansion (forget which tier), and complex ammo expansion. My only problem is facing shield rail tanks at CQC. @Spkr, missiles should be more effective against shield than they are currently, because missiles are supposed to be CQC AV but a rail tank does that much more effectively, and it's supposed to be a ranged weapon! Don't you see something wrong with the balance here? I'll be fine if rail tanks can't track me at CQC but it's too easy for them to prevent me from out maneuvering them. He doesnt because he thinks blasters arent op as hell Banned until the 10th Reason: I said "feg" I lol'd so8 dammed hars, it's not even funny, oh wait, yes it is.
nakaya indigene 0uter.Heaven 121	Posted - 2014.02.24 15:37:00 - [19] - Quote Astrum Machina wrote: Did somebody say MISSILES? Well I watched your video. The hit and run tactic is definitely something that you need to consider as a Missiler. Especially with that fit you've got going on. There's nothing wrong with outputting tons of damage, and this may just be where our play styles differ, but I run a more survival shield-focused fitting. Funnlogi AT-201* Complex Shield Hardener Complex Shield Booster Enhanced Damage Mod Militia PG Upgrade With this fit you can still output plenty of extra Damage with one Dmg Mod, and you have that nice fallback with the Booster if your shields fall too low or if a Rail Gun unexpectedly thumps you from a mile away. I also noticed how you shot at those Dropships. Instead of just full autoing it, fire in aimed bursts and make sure you lead enough. I recommend never ever relying on splash to take down infantry, try to get direct shots. With enough practice you'll be able to down a sprinting target from 100m away with only one or two or no misses. You'll usually one-shot most suits except Heavies, bricked out suits and some shield tanked suits. *You could use an XT-201, but you'll need to add a CPU Upgrade and switch out the MLT PG Upgrade for a Basic or something like that. I use the AT-201 because money reasons. I try and fiddle around with the 1dmg mod. The Jove espier --- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPGgRFDT9eYY1dMwb50luXw
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1949	Posted - 2014.02.24 15:40:00 - [20] - Quote although you did really well with that missle tank and your fit was really solid, better then i could produce with my half assed tank investment. all it did was remind me how much of an advanatge tankers have when they fight in swarms lol almost all your kills were on tanks that were engaged with one of your team mates, any blaster or rail likely would of got the same results.

nakaya indigene 0uter.Heaven 121	Posted - 2014.02.24 15:41:00 - [21] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: nakaya indigene wrote: NK Scout wrote: nakaya indigene wrote: I flail around with a missile tank. our team spammed tanks. I was able to show the missile tank at its near best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbpyLXGly3Q Let me know if you have comments or suggestions. I saw a firndly xt missi,e tank vs an enemy gunlogi ion cannon tank The guy did no damage, missiles need fixing... yeah.. missiles are too weak to shields. At the same time they way to powerful vs armor i mean yes they should kill armor tanks easy but not that easy Agreed. They should mend the damage differences The Jove espier --- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPGgRFDT9eYY1dMwb50luXw
nakaya indigene 0uter.Heaven 121	Posted - 2014.02.24 15:43:00 - [22] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Missile Tanks are the throwaway guns of the tank world. They are very effective against Armor at close range and best used when they get the drop but fall short at anything else; they are best used doing the one murder and discarded. Lol. Yeah that's what it felt like when I was using it The Jove espier --- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPGgRFDT9eYY1dMwb50luXw
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1878	Posted - 2014.02.24 18:55:00 - [23] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: nakaya indigene wrote: I flail around with a missile tank. our team spammed tanks. I was able to show the missile tank at its near best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbpyLXGly3Q Let me know if you have comments or suggestions. Stopped watching cause you put armor modules and only 1 turret on a shield tank. If you went with just 1 damage mod an no armor mods you could easy fit 3 turrets but hey keep going to be a moron. Armor mods on shield tank are just as effective as throwing a flux grenade on a dude that has a gallente suit. So, still, as infantry, you want a tanker to fit their vehicle the way you want. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1878	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:04:00 - [24] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: lolfit Puts a plate on it so it moves slower but also turns slower making the agile Gunlogi not so agile and a armor hardener does not work really when you cant rep any armor back 2 diff dmg mods lol You can rep armor on a tank by using a supply installation. Yes, but do you even tank? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1878	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:13:00 - [25] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: You're probably the one tanker I actually respect in this game. And why is that? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2398	Posted - 2014.02.24 21:32:00 - [26] - Quote Question... Are missiles closer to a shotgun playstyle for tanks? where you run in, get the kill, run away? Or are they more of a long-range tactical weapon? Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2398	Posted - 2014.02.24 21:38:00 - [27] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: You're probably the one tanker I actually respect in this game. And why is that? Used to play with Nakaya back in the beta when he was in ZionTCD. He would communicate with the squad, back us up where we needed tank support, and always played WITH us instead of just ignoring the squad and doing his own thing. He made the squad complete...It's like a good sniper, where most snipers spend the entire match just focusing on their own goals, he would make sure that his skills were actually helping us. In return, I would sometimes run with him on his blaster jumping out with my forge helping him take out enemy tanks. Now THAT's how you tank. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!


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