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Vegetation Monster KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 189	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:07:00 - [1] - Quote Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? B Double O T Y
Tectonic Fusion 1120	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:08:00 - [2] - Quote BPOs are for people who are too lazy to restock their basic fits. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 413	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:09:00 - [3] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? Player market doesn't exist. Won't know market value until it does(if it ever does exist)
Vegetation Monster KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 189	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:10:00 - [4] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: BPOs are for people who are too lazy to restock their basic fits. The LAV would actually make sense cuz those things are annoying to recall and pay like 30k sik every match and it dies too quickly but the rest of the stuff is stupid. B Double O T Y
Jack Kittinger Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 139	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:15:00 - [5] - Quote All I know is I love my sever and templar logi suits Proud winner of the 'Templar BPO Raffle' by Castor Crave!! Lucky Number 29
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 876	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:20:00 - [6] - Quote Some are unique. Like my much coveted 'Fossil' with 2 equip slots and 2 high slots Others are cosmetic like my sweet 'Syndie'. Worth every penny "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Clyffton Donovan Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 138	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:21:00 - [7] - Quote When something is removed from general markets, they become rare. Director / PC Ambassador Zulu Squad Leader Invictus Maneo~ "I Remain Unvanquished"
Christiphoros von Poe Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 131	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:24:00 - [8] - Quote Skinweaves are a sort of status marker. It proves that you are a closed beta vet... But not that anyone cares. (1) "Exile" Assault Rifle reserved for: Fire of Prometheus
Rusty Shallows 1019	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:25:00 - [9] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? I want to know how the people are okay with disposable AUR items? Real money shouldn't have been on the battlefield in the first place. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Tectonic Fusion 1120	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:26:00 - [10] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: BPOs are for people who are too lazy to restock their basic fits. The LAV would actually make sense cuz those things are annoying to recall and pay like 30k sik every match and it dies too quickly but the rest of the stuff is stupid. Only the LAV... Solo Player Squad status: Locked

The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 221	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:30:00 - [11] - Quote Some of the prices being thrown around seem rather excessive if you do simple cost-benefit analysis. Now, I wouldn't mind having the full Templar set or LAV BPO, but I'll never run out of money regardless, and 50M+ for what is mostly Militia gear? Some of the named items will bring substantial money from the collectors, but I can't see the Mil Plate, for instance, bringing anything crazy. Yeah, I guess they might become significant when you have enough to build an entire fitting that you will actually run and you've gone broke from spamming proto/vehicles in pubs, but you might just as well run starter fits in most cases. Or, maybe if you die a lot. A LOT.
mollerz Minja Scouts 2372	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:34:00 - [12] - Quote You won't see the real value of BPOs until their place in dust development becomes concrete as well as the player base becoming something equivalent to Eve. Otherwise you'll never really know the value/demand. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6961	Posted - 2014.02.24 04:38:00 - [13] - Quote The Eristic wrote: Some of the prices being thrown around seem rather excessive if you do simple cost-benefit analysis. Now, I wouldn't mind having the full Templar set or LAV BPO, but I'll never run out of money regardless, and 50M+ for what is mostly Militia gear? Some of the named items will bring substantial money from the collectors, but I can't see the Mil Plate, for instance, bringing anything crazy. Yeah, I guess they might become significant when you have enough to build an entire fitting that you will actually run and you've gone broke from spamming proto/vehicles in pubs, but you might just as well run starter fits in most cases. Or, maybe if you die a lot. A LOT. The issue with starter fits is that they limit your fittings a little more than the BPO suits. With starter fits, you're unable to remove the starter modules and that alone hinders your fitting flexibility and those extra modules aren't always useful anyways. With BPO fits on the other hand, you can go to town with whatever setup you like that optimizes the low-tier suit without being forced to leave in useless modules. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3512	Posted - 2014.02.24 05:16:00 - [14] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: BPOs are for people who are too lazy to restock their basic fits. The LAV would actually make sense cuz those things are annoying to recall and pay like 30k sik every match and it dies too quickly but the rest of the stuff is stupid. Never discount laziness. The cosmetic bit is large too. For me, paying "real money" to get a cosmetic item that is NOT permanent is stupid. A BPO was more justifiable since you'll always have it. BPOs were the only reason I ever bought packs or AUR. I actually bought the Gamestop-Mercenary pack after seeing the Syndicate SMG in game and thinking.. "I want that!" Pre-uprising, it was this great fire-engine red color. I'm not a huge fan of the current appearance though. The permanence is the only thing that gives it appeal (I can have that "look" forever), and in that particular case it was worth $20 to me (I didn't care about any of the other random crap in merc packs). The unfortunate part there is that the "look" changed for the worse, and it ceased to be the thing I was originally interested in getting. I think about this when people talk about taking away BPOs from people that already have them. It's the only reason I spent money in the first place, and so getting something like AUR refund is insulting. Having them become limited-use also defeats the purpose/appeal they were originally billed under. I'd give up on the game at the point they decide to flush the items I gave them money for, especially when they sold them as "forever". The problem now is that people like me that were only willing to pay for permanent items are no longer giving them money. Perhaps they'll eventually have some other kinds of permanent cosmetic items, like living quarters, etc. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 2941	Posted - 2014.02.24 05:19:00 - [15] - Quote Because those BPO's allow me to have loadouts with an infinity sign next to them, but are also way better than those crappy starter fits. My STD heavy fit costs me 4500ISK, I could care less that I am saving ISK, it just really bothers me that I have to restock after every damn match. I need a MLT HMG BPO, CCP. Shield Recommendations
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 522	Posted - 2014.02.24 05:19:00 - [16] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? Player market doesn't exist. Won't know market value until it does(if it ever does exist) ^ This. The current prices are fixed NPC corps selling you the gear. When the EVE/Dust economy gets merged, it will be a player market. Meaning people in EVE will create all the suits and weapons, then sell them to us Dust players for any amount they choose. That's why BPO's were removed to begin with. It will bork the player driven economy of New Eden.
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 340	Posted - 2014.02.24 05:40:00 - [17] - Quote BPO dropsuit....free BPO L.A.V...free BPO rifle...free 2x RE...8,000 Taking out half a million ISK worth of tank scrubbery for less than 10K? PRICELESS! Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6964	Posted - 2014.02.24 06:12:00 - [18] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: I think about this when people talk about taking away BPOs from people that already have them. It's the only reason I spent money in the first place, and so getting something like AUR refund is insulting. Having them become limited-use also defeats the purpose/appeal they were originally billed under. I'd give up on the game at the point they decide to flush the items I gave them money for, especially when they sold them as "forever". The problem now is that people like me that were only willing to pay for permanent items are no longer giving them money. Perhaps they'll eventually have some other kinds of permanent cosmetic items, like living quarters, etc. Which is why I ever doubt they will remove any more BPOs from our inventory other than the four BPO vehicle modules that were removed as a result of A) the initial vehicle overhaul and B) becoming absolutely useless as a result of "A". Many of the those BPOs were bought directly with cash (no aurum required) such as the Templar BPOs, the Toxin weapons, and anything else that came prepackaged in a merc pack in the Sony store. Taking those BPOs away from our inventory will no doubt equal one massive legal headache for CCP that is so big that CCP won't be able to sleep at night anymore if they do that. As for cosmetic items, I have an idea. CCP should let us: A) Allow Dust players access to the Eve Online 'Noble Exchange' (NeX) store. B) Have Dust players get eve-style avatars so that we could dress them up using the AUR items available in the NeX store. C) Let us pimp our merc quarters for once (cough)stripperpole(cough). D) A permanent paint bucket system. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6964	Posted - 2014.02.24 06:13:00 - [19] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: BPO dropsuit....free BPO L.A.V...free BPO rifle...free 2x RE...8,000 Taking out half a million ISK worth of tank scrubbery for less than 10K? PRICELESS! For everything else there's Master Card. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10000	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:17:00 - [20] - Quote Because when I see an infinity symbol next to my fittings I feel very bourgeoise. Forum Master I Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven

low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1279	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:29:00 - [21] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? some of us think long term.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1279	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:30:00 - [22] - Quote Christiphoros von Poe wrote: Skinweaves are a sort of status marker. It proves that you are a closed beta vet... But not that anyone cares. I didn't realize that. they stopped giving them out?
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1279	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:31:00 - [23] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? I want to know how the people are okay with disposable AUR items? Real money shouldn't have been on the battlefield in the first place. why not?
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 527	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:31:00 - [24] - Quote low genius wrote: Christiphoros von Poe wrote: Skinweaves are a sort of status marker. It proves that you are a closed beta vet... But not that anyone cares. I didn't realize that. they stopped giving them out? I despise skinweaves 15 shield hp regen? Ha! 2 exile assault rifles, Skinweave cal. frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame Caldari Master Race One day shields, soon.
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 596	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:33:00 - [25] - Quote Ahh BPO,s the best way to make isk and **** off other players and get them kicked out of fac war with out the loss of isk. Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 129	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:40:00 - [26] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: BPO dropsuit....free BPO L.A.V...free BPO rifle...free 2x RE...8,000 Taking out half a million ISK worth of tank scrubbery for less than 10K? PRICELESS! Set ut up next to a suppky depot and switch to a free suit and the whole thing is free! I wonder if they notice I was wearing a starter AV fit when they died?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6968	Posted - 2014.02.24 07:42:00 - [27] - Quote low genius wrote: Christiphoros von Poe wrote: Skinweaves are a sort of status marker. It proves that you are a closed beta vet... But not that anyone cares. I didn't realize that. they stopped giving them out? OOOOOHHhh a long time ago back during closed beta. They were actually just event rewards as part of a stress test for the Singularity test server. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3515	Posted - 2014.02.24 09:16:00 - [28] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: I think about this when people talk about taking away BPOs from people that already have them. It's the only reason I spent money in the first place, and so getting something like AUR refund is insulting. Having them become limited-use also defeats the purpose/appeal they were originally billed under. I'd give up on the game at the point they decide to flush the items I gave them money for, especially when they sold them as "forever". The problem now is that people like me that were only willing to pay for permanent items are no longer giving them money. Perhaps they'll eventually have some other kinds of permanent cosmetic items, like living quarters, etc. Which is why I ever doubt they will remove any more BPOs from our inventory other than the four BPO vehicle modules that were removed as a result of A) the initial vehicle overhaul and B) becoming absolutely useless as a result of "A". Many of the those BPOs were bought directly with cash (no aurum required) such as the Templar BPOs, the Toxin weapons, and anything else that came prepackaged in a merc pack in the Sony store. Taking those BPOs away from our inventory will no doubt equal one massive legal headache for CCP that is so big that CCP won't be able to sleep at night anymore if they do that. As for cosmetic items, I have an idea. CCP should let us: A) Allow Dust players access to the Eve Online 'Noble Exchange' (NeX) store. B) Have Dust players get eve-style avatars so that we could dress them up using the AUR items available in the NeX store. C) Let us pimp our merc quarters for once (cough)stripperpole(cough). D) A permanent paint bucket system. I think if you could use AUR to get really large luxury quarters with bells and whistles (and theoretically get other Mercs in there), that would be kinda cool. Our quarters now are kinda pointless. Of course, the quarters in EVE are also pointless and people still can't "socialize" with their avatars in EVE on a station. So, it may not be realistic to expect all those things when they haven't pulled it off EVE-side yet. I was a little surprised they didn't already do EVE style avatars. The tech exists, and the model currently wouldn't need to do anything aside from walk around in tiny quarters. I don't think a permanent paint bucket system will ever happen. The selling point for most "special" items is their coloring differences. The point at which we can make our own colors not only reduces the incentive to ever buy any special item again (dried up revenue), but it means we can effectively recreate anything they've released before (Templar Suits, etc.) devaluing every special thing ever released. So, we'd either get a really really limited paint bucket that can't replicate patterns or designs for crap, or they'd be forced to seriously step up their custom suit design with logos/textures we can't make (and upgrade past special suits). Either way seems like it wouldn't happen. There's not always much variety in "special" stuff in EVE either. Like Sarum or Tash-Murkon Magnate frigates are stat-copied recolors of an existing ship with different logos tacked on for example. One thing I do like about the recolors in EVE is that attached turrets take on the new color schemes. So many of the avatar things are kinda questionable given there's so little use for the avatars. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Lucrezia LeGrand 341	Posted - 2014.02.24 09:29:00 - [29] - Quote Why do people go crazy over BPO's? well, it certainly isn't for the stats on those things. A lot of it is the unique color schemes, and the fact that people spent real money on them. There's something very appealing about owning something permanently as opposed to fittings that get used up as you die. The funny thing is, if CCP continued to make crap BPO suits, but with cosmetic changes, people would buy them. Already own a Dragonfly Scout Suit, Thale Suit, Skinweave and Factional Scout Suit? Well check out this PINK!! Scout suit! Same stats as the dragonfly (which you already own) but it is Pink!! Take my money please!! Thale groupie
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1810	Posted - 2014.02.24 11:16:00 - [30] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Why do people go crazy over BPO's? well, it certainly isn't for the stats on those things. A lot of it is the unique color schemes, and the fact that people spent real money on them. There's something very appealing about owning something permanently as opposed to fittings that get used up as you die. The funny thing is, if CCP continued to make crap BPO suits, but with cosmetic changes, people would buy them. Already own a Dragonfly Scout Suit, Thale Suit, Skinweave and Factional Scout Suit? Well check out this PINK!! Scout suit! Same stats as the dragonfly (which you already own) but it is Pink!! Take my money please!! My 'Templar' gear is ace looking. Just wish I had a 'Syndicate' to go with it... that stupid ScP has ******** fitting costs, and my 'Toxin' is green. Forge on for great justice! Defend the meek! Destroy the weak! Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!

Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 1079	Posted - 2014.02.24 11:25:00 - [31] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: Set ut up next to a suppky depot and switch to a free suit and the whole thing is free! I wonder if they notice I was wearing a starter AV fit when they died? And waste precious time that would be better spent making a tank go boom... No, only scrubs would bother changing their suit.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1287	Posted - 2014.02.24 11:30:00 - [32] - Quote Toxin stuff is green! Oh, yeah. They never run out, too. That's cool, I guess.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1308	Posted - 2014.02.24 12:23:00 - [33] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? Collectibility and swag. And ultimately never run out. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3247	Posted - 2014.02.24 12:39:00 - [34] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? I paid 300mil for a Templar set. My favourite kinds of setups are cheap suits & weapons with proto modules. Besides the asthetic (which is worth a few hundred mil by itself IMO), I'm quite likely to get my money back considering my playstyle. No.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2110	Posted - 2014.02.24 12:53:00 - [35] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Why do people go crazy over BPO's? well, it certainly isn't for the stats on those things. A lot of it is the unique color schemes, and the fact that people spent real money on them. There's something very appealing about owning something permanently as opposed to fittings that get used up as you die. The funny thing is, if CCP continued to make crap BPO suits, but with cosmetic changes, people would buy them. Already own a Dragonfly Scout Suit, Thale Suit, Skinweave and Factional Scout Suit? Well check out this PINK!! Scout suit! Same stats as the dragonfly (which you already own) but it is Pink!! Take my money please!! My 'Templar' gear is ace looking. Just wish I had a 'Syndicate' to go with it... that stupid ScP has ****** fitting costs, and my 'Toxin' is green. Damnit. I hadn't thought of that. Now I need a syndicate too! "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics"** -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 132	Posted - 2014.02.24 12:56:00 - [36] - Quote Because I can have a complete level 1 fitting that also receives bonuses for ZERO NADA ISK. That is why!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2111	Posted - 2014.02.24 13:28:00 - [37] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: BPO dropsuit....free BPO L.A.V...free BPO rifle...free 2x RE...8,000 Taking out half a million ISK worth of tank scrubbery for less than 10K? PRICELESS! I have exactly that same fitting.... Fossil? 1)My templar stuff kicks so much a$$. Red and goooooold FTW. 2) it gets bonuses... BPO ScR with prof 3 still shreds 3) *Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, says "fck you, douche" better than killing them in a free suit! "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics"** -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3514	Posted - 2014.02.24 13:51:00 - [38] - Quote I'm gonna be pretty rich once the player market comes about. Skinweave BPO Raven BPO Templar Sentinel BPO Dragonfly Scout BPO Dragonfly Assault BPO Covenant Assault BPO Covenant Sniper Rifle BPO Toxin AR BPO I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
cranium79 ZionTCD 92	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:16:00 - [39] - Quote bpo's are ok, but they are almost all militia gear, or at most standard. i use the toxin smg bpo on all of my fits just because i have it, and it's convenient (i like smgs better than pistols). would it break my bank if i had to buy the militia or standard smg if i didn't have the toxin?? of course not. a less than 1500 isk additon to any of my fits will not kill them. i use my skinweave heavy as a cheap av fit. a bit over 7000 isk for the suit, militia fg, complex dmg modifier, standard flux grenade, and militia plate. if i had to buy the militia heavy suit, my fit would still be well under 10k. the only bpo that i do like is the exile ar. 60 rounds vs 48 comes in handy. i forget if the standard ar has 60 or 48 rounds. i know the militia one does. if the standard has 60, then that wouldn't matter much to me either. since i have 2 skinweave suits per class, i'm willing to part with one of them after the player market comes (soon tm... lol). i don't need the isk, but i would be willing to trade for officer ARs. bottom line for me is, bpos are a matter of convenience. given their militia/standard classification and cheap isk equivalent, they are not completely necessary. they are more of a status symbol (as far as the skinweaves, toxins, MAG suits, exiles, etc... the ones we earned in closed beta, or were only available for a short period of time). that's about it. can most of us survive without them... sure. even the bpo lavs... i don't have one, i just park somewhere safe and recall my militia lav.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1722	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:26:00 - [40] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: My STD heavy fit costs me 4500ISK, I could care less that I am saving ISK, it just really bothers me that I have to restock after every damn match. I need a MLT HMG BPO, CCP. I hear ya brother. I miss the old starter heavy fit, the one with the free Militia Forge Gun on it. It was nice having an infinite supply of okay-performance blap. I guess CCP thought it was too nice. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]

Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 855	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:50:00 - [41] - Quote My Dren Scout/Dren Shotty/Syndican SMG is my go to fit :) Gonna be even more awesome after 1.8.
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation Proficiency V. 102	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:53:00 - [42] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: My Dren Scout/Dren Shotty/Syndican SMG is my go to fit :) Gonna be even more awesome after 1.8. Because of scout buff, cloak I think, and rifle nerfs Banned until the 10th Reason: I said "feg" I lol'd so8 dammed hars, it's not even funny, oh wait, yes it is.
General John Ripper Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 18786	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:54:00 - [43] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: BPOs are for people who are too lazy to restock their basic fits. I have 10 thousand basic fits. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Ku Shala Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 881	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:55:00 - [44] - Quote BPO = reward for playing this broken game for so long..... ( Who else is missing like a million kills from playing skimish in the begining?) *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä* The States Necromancer Scan Attempt Prevented
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3522	Posted - 2014.02.24 18:32:00 - [45] - Quote Might be worth adding that the "Templar" stuff in particular is special because they represent the only BPO set of stuff that didn't exist pre-uprising. Every other BPO suit or weapon you could technically get prior to when the game launched (Dren was the first BPO STD Heavy, but that Heavy type existed prior to launch). Then AFTER the game launched with slick Gallente suits, Amarr Medium suits, etc.... they proceeded to release a bunch of packs with Caldari Assault BPO suits (Dragonfly, Covenant, Dren) that most people already had access to prior. The Dren set is particularly interesting because it has four suits... which just happen to be the same damn race/role combos everyone already had access to before launch. But the TEMPLAR... oh baby, a logi that isn't Minny and an assault that isn't Caldari. If they were still making/releasing NEW cosmetically different STD suit BPOs, I'd probably still be giving them money. I say probably, because it would've been nice if they'd actually mixed things up a bit. They released a "blood raider" suit (covenant) that was Caldari instead of Amarr despite the fact that Blood Raider ships are Amarr. How many Caldari Assault BPO types exist relative to everything else? I don't need another Caldari Assault BPO (I have like... 4), and I don't even play Caldari. It's also a bit stupid that the penultimate reward for recruiting 50 people to Dust happens to also be.... a Caldari suit. The other suits you can unlock through the recruit system? Also Caldari. I'm not sure what the thinking was there, but it spits on the very concept of "racial" diversity to have the BPO releases so samey. People talked about that too, but I suppose it became a non-issue when they decided no-more-BPOs. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Leonid Tybalt Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 255	Posted - 2014.02.24 18:40:00 - [46] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? I want to know how the people are okay with disposable AUR items? Real money shouldn't have been on the battlefield in the first place. And why is that?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6987	Posted - 2014.02.24 18:55:00 - [47] - Quote One more thing to note about the advantages of BPOs over starter fits. The starter fits have no high-slots slots for Gallente at least (not sure about the other races). BPOs have all the slots they need regardless of race. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 261	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:15:00 - [48] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: BPOs are for people who are too lazy to restock their basic fits. The LAV would actually make sense cuz those things are annoying to recall and pay like 30k sik every match and it dies too quickly but the rest of the stuff is stupid. I don't think they're stupid. I purchased a whole bunch of BPO suits, equipment and weapons back in the day and haven't regretted once. While MLT and basic stuff costs pennies, BPOs literally cost nothing. SAVINGS! With my Dren Logi BPO, I get 3 (THREE) equipment slots. With the TTK as low as it is, there isn't much point in running anything higher than an MLT logi suit. And while you certainly can stack tons of mods on a proto suit, I look at is as paying 60some k isk for an extra equipment slot. shrug "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 691	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:26:00 - [49] - Quote i only miss my galente starter fit mlt lav.. not a bpo or cosmetic fan and dont have any intentions on buying a bpo suit. vehicles maybe but suits and weapons and such i dont have interest in.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2601	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:33:00 - [50] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: The Eristic wrote: Some of the prices being thrown around seem rather excessive if you do simple cost-benefit analysis. Now, I wouldn't mind having the full Templar set or LAV BPO, but I'll never run out of money regardless, and 50M+ for what is mostly Militia gear? Some of the named items will bring substantial money from the collectors, but I can't see the Mil Plate, for instance, bringing anything crazy. Yeah, I guess they might become significant when you have enough to build an entire fitting that you will actually run and you've gone broke from spamming proto/vehicles in pubs, but you might just as well run starter fits in most cases. Or, maybe if you die a lot. A LOT. The issue with starter fits is that they limit your fittings a little more than the BPO suits. With starter fits, you're unable to remove the starter modules and that alone hinders your fitting flexibility and those extra modules aren't always useful anyways. With BPO fits on the other hand, you can go to town with whatever setup you like that optimizes the low-tier suit without being forced to leave in useless modules. You can make a Duplicat of a Starter Fit, and remove a Yellow module from the duplicate, if there is a module on the Starter Fit that you donGÇÖt want. Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014

Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1072	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:40:00 - [51] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? AR BPO = whatever. Sentinel BPO HMG fit for the price of a STD HMG= amazing. Pure BPO shotty scout = amazing.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3526	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:43:00 - [52] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: One more thing to note about the advantages of BPOs over starter fits. The starter fits have no high-slots slots for Gallente at least (not sure about the other races). BPOs have all the slots they need regardless of race. The Starter Amarr fits have 2 highs and 0 lows. Yup.. no reps, no armor, no nothing. Go forth and armor tank without lows, Amarr! Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6988	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:53:00 - [53] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: The Eristic wrote: Some of the prices being thrown around seem rather excessive if you do simple cost-benefit analysis. Now, I wouldn't mind having the full Templar set or LAV BPO, but I'll never run out of money regardless, and 50M+ for what is mostly Militia gear? Some of the named items will bring substantial money from the collectors, but I can't see the Mil Plate, for instance, bringing anything crazy. Yeah, I guess they might become significant when you have enough to build an entire fitting that you will actually run and you've gone broke from spamming proto/vehicles in pubs, but you might just as well run starter fits in most cases. Or, maybe if you die a lot. A LOT. The issue with starter fits is that they limit your fittings a little more than the BPO suits. With starter fits, you're unable to remove the starter modules and that alone hinders your fitting flexibility and those extra modules aren't always useful anyways. With BPO fits on the other hand, you can go to town with whatever setup you like that optimizes the low-tier suit without being forced to leave in useless modules. You can make a Duplicat of a Starter Fit, and remove a Yellow module from the duplicate, if there is a module on the Starter Fit that you donGÇÖt want. They are still useless to me as starter fits if I can't fit any high-slot modules. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2246	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:58:00 - [54] - Quote BPO's should not even exist Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 893	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:58:00 - [55] - Quote Christiphoros von Poe wrote: Skinweaves are a sort of status marker. It proves that you are a closed beta vet... But not that anyone cares. i still run my skinweave suits when im going solo in pub matches YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Ku Shala Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 883	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:07:00 - [56] - Quote skinweave = cheapest av *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä* The States Necromancer Scan Attempt Prevented
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 200	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:20:00 - [57] - Quote I'm surprised we don't see more people complaining how BPOs going to mess up the market! (Back pre 1.6 that was a big topic) I guess they (The haters) realized that all the ISK being giving out for free to all the PC Corps locking districts has broken the economy far worse then these unlimited run BPOs ever will. All the no-risk free isk given away, hell I need to ask Dust Charts to see how bad the economic impact is going to be. I wish CCP would just announce it as a exploit already and bring the ban hammer down CCP Fox Four has yet to release the attackers in PC data dumps so us New Eden mercs can do the policing job for them. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
noobsniper the 2nd POISION ROSES Galactic Skyfleet Empire 179	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:21:00 - [58] - Quote Got dat raven assault bpo love it just call me scumbag noob MAG vet raven ftw
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11524	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:22:00 - [59] - Quote I'll tell you one thing Jihad Jeep would be a lot less scary without BPOs. <3 my Guristas Saga, I just wish I had a Baloch BPO instead because Gallente Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 58	Posted - 2014.02.24 21:37:00 - [60] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: BPO dropsuit....free BPO L.A.V...free BPO rifle...free 2x RE...8,000 Taking out half a million ISK worth of tank scrubbery for less than 10K? PRICELESS! I have exactly that same fitting.... Fossil? 1)My templar stuff kicks so much a$$. Red and goooooold FTW. 2) it gets bonuses... BPO ScR with prof 3 still shreds 3) *Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, says "fck you, douche" better than killing them in a free suit!** It's not free It either cost you $150 for the pack or 300m ISK for the code When I get killed in my STD suit by a guy in BPO's I just think .. ah .. he spent real money on that suit .. what a douche xD

Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3805	Posted - 2014.02.24 22:09:00 - [61] - Quote Cause they look bad@$$ (well most of the suits and guns do) Scout- "I'm going to knife you my commando!!!" commando turns around Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 989	Posted - 2014.02.24 22:15:00 - [62] - Quote they're good for situations where you arent getting ISK back. Like faction warfare. "I'm not going to get any ISK back? .okay no prob, I just wont put any ISK in" In a lot of ways, starter fits are okay for that.. except that there's no scout starter fit. So, I have a Valor BPO.
calvin b Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 1559	Posted - 2014.02.24 22:20:00 - [63] - Quote BPO's are fantastic. I am not lazy to restock, just love the fact it is infinite and I can throw caution to the wind and not care about isk as I push for a win. A heavy before 1.8
Moonracer2000 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 715	Posted - 2014.02.24 22:27:00 - [64] - Quote I bought BPOs because I wanted to support the game early in development. And as a general principal I don't do subscription gaming any more. I bought 2 merc packs and that $50 pack with the LAV. At this point I have no real desire to spend more but I don't regret my purchases. I am much less interested in future purchases due to CCP wanting to remove (or at least not release new) BPOs. It makes sense for the game, it just doesn't fit my interests as a customer. I think that if BPOs are tradable on the open market their value will be lower than expected. The are a nice convenience, but will take a lot of play time to earn your isk back and make a profit.
XEROO COOL Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 737	Posted - 2014.02.24 22:36:00 - [65] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: BPO dropsuit....free BPO L.A.V...free BPO rifle...free 2x RE...8,000 Taking out half a million ISK worth of tank scrubbery for less than 10K? PRICELESS! Set ut up next to a suppky depot and switch to a free suit and the whole thing is free! I wonder if they notice I was wearing a starter AV fit when they died? NEV ER THOUGHT OF THIS I feel muy estupido now! Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2840	Posted - 2014.02.24 22:44:00 - [66] - Quote They're the closest thing we have to trophies. They used to look cool. Apparently, that was OP. Makes it easier to justify a "**** it, I'm going in" mentality sometimes. Especially when you can lose ~500 fittings before going ISK negative in a match. I GÖú Kittens.
castba Penguin's March 326	Posted - 2014.02.24 22:47:00 - [67] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: As for cosmetic items, I have an idea. CCP should let us: A) Allow Dust players access to the Eve Online 'Noble Exchange' (NeX) store. B) Have Dust players get eve-style avatars so that we could dress them up using the AUR items available in the NeX store. C) Let us pimp our merc quarters for once (cough)stripperpole(cough). D) A permanent paint bucket system. Sometimes the most obvious solution us the most overlooked...


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