DUST Search - Why do people go crazy over BPOs?

Fox Gaden wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

The Eristic wrote:

Some of the prices being thrown around seem rather excessive if you do simple cost-benefit analysis. Now, I wouldn't mind having the full Templar set or LAV BPO, but I'll never run out of money regardless, and 50M+ for what is mostly Militia gear? Some of the named items will bring substantial money from the collectors, but I can't see the Mil Plate, for instance, bringing anything crazy. Yeah, I guess they might become significant when you have enough to build an entire fitting that you will actually run and you've gone broke from spamming proto/vehicles in pubs, but you might just as well run starter fits in most cases. Or, maybe if you die a lot. A LOT.

The issue with starter fits is that they limit your fittings a little more than the BPO suits. With starter fits, you're unable to remove the starter modules and that alone hinders your fitting flexibility and those extra modules aren't always useful anyways. With BPO fits on the other hand, you can go to town with whatever setup you like that optimizes the low-tier suit without being forced to leave in useless modules.

You can make a Duplicat of a Starter Fit, and remove a Yellow module from the duplicate, if there is a module on the Starter Fit that you donGÇÖt want.

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Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 1079	Posted - 2014.02.24 11:25:00 - [31] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: Set ut up next to a suppky depot and switch to a free suit and the whole thing is free! I wonder if they notice I was wearing a starter AV fit when they died? And waste precious time that would be better spent making a tank go boom... No, only scrubs would bother changing their suit.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1287	Posted - 2014.02.24 11:30:00 - [32] - Quote Toxin stuff is green! Oh, yeah. They never run out, too. That's cool, I guess.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1308	Posted - 2014.02.24 12:23:00 - [33] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? Collectibility and swag. And ultimately never run out. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3247	Posted - 2014.02.24 12:39:00 - [34] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? I paid 300mil for a Templar set. My favourite kinds of setups are cheap suits & weapons with proto modules. Besides the asthetic (which is worth a few hundred mil by itself IMO), I'm quite likely to get my money back considering my playstyle. No.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2110	Posted - 2014.02.24 12:53:00 - [35] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: Why do people go crazy over BPO's? well, it certainly isn't for the stats on those things. A lot of it is the unique color schemes, and the fact that people spent real money on them. There's something very appealing about owning something permanently as opposed to fittings that get used up as you die. The funny thing is, if CCP continued to make crap BPO suits, but with cosmetic changes, people would buy them. Already own a Dragonfly Scout Suit, Thale Suit, Skinweave and Factional Scout Suit? Well check out this PINK!! Scout suit! Same stats as the dragonfly (which you already own) but it is Pink!! Take my money please!! My 'Templar' gear is ace looking. Just wish I had a 'Syndicate' to go with it... that stupid ScP has ****** fitting costs, and my 'Toxin' is green. Damnit. I hadn't thought of that. Now I need a syndicate too! "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics"** -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 132	Posted - 2014.02.24 12:56:00 - [36] - Quote Because I can have a complete level 1 fitting that also receives bonuses for ZERO NADA ISK. That is why!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2111	Posted - 2014.02.24 13:28:00 - [37] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: BPO dropsuit....free BPO L.A.V...free BPO rifle...free 2x RE...8,000 Taking out half a million ISK worth of tank scrubbery for less than 10K? PRICELESS! I have exactly that same fitting.... Fossil? 1)My templar stuff kicks so much a$$. Red and goooooold FTW. 2) it gets bonuses... BPO ScR with prof 3 still shreds 3) *Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, says "fck you, douche" better than killing them in a free suit! "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics"** -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3514	Posted - 2014.02.24 13:51:00 - [38] - Quote I'm gonna be pretty rich once the player market comes about. Skinweave BPO Raven BPO Templar Sentinel BPO Dragonfly Scout BPO Dragonfly Assault BPO Covenant Assault BPO Covenant Sniper Rifle BPO Toxin AR BPO I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
cranium79 ZionTCD 92	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:16:00 - [39] - Quote bpo's are ok, but they are almost all militia gear, or at most standard. i use the toxin smg bpo on all of my fits just because i have it, and it's convenient (i like smgs better than pistols). would it break my bank if i had to buy the militia or standard smg if i didn't have the toxin?? of course not. a less than 1500 isk additon to any of my fits will not kill them. i use my skinweave heavy as a cheap av fit. a bit over 7000 isk for the suit, militia fg, complex dmg modifier, standard flux grenade, and militia plate. if i had to buy the militia heavy suit, my fit would still be well under 10k. the only bpo that i do like is the exile ar. 60 rounds vs 48 comes in handy. i forget if the standard ar has 60 or 48 rounds. i know the militia one does. if the standard has 60, then that wouldn't matter much to me either. since i have 2 skinweave suits per class, i'm willing to part with one of them after the player market comes (soon tm... lol). i don't need the isk, but i would be willing to trade for officer ARs. bottom line for me is, bpos are a matter of convenience. given their militia/standard classification and cheap isk equivalent, they are not completely necessary. they are more of a status symbol (as far as the skinweaves, toxins, MAG suits, exiles, etc... the ones we earned in closed beta, or were only available for a short period of time). that's about it. can most of us survive without them... sure. even the bpo lavs... i don't have one, i just park somewhere safe and recall my militia lav.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1722	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:26:00 - [40] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: My STD heavy fit costs me 4500ISK, I could care less that I am saving ISK, it just really bothers me that I have to restock after every damn match. I need a MLT HMG BPO, CCP. I hear ya brother. I miss the old starter heavy fit, the one with the free Militia Forge Gun on it. It was nice having an infinite supply of okay-performance blap. I guess CCP thought it was too nice. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]

Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 855	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:50:00 - [41] - Quote My Dren Scout/Dren Shotty/Syndican SMG is my go to fit :) Gonna be even more awesome after 1.8.
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation Proficiency V. 102	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:53:00 - [42] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: My Dren Scout/Dren Shotty/Syndican SMG is my go to fit :) Gonna be even more awesome after 1.8. Because of scout buff, cloak I think, and rifle nerfs Banned until the 10th Reason: I said "feg" I lol'd so8 dammed hars, it's not even funny, oh wait, yes it is.
General John Ripper Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 18786	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:54:00 - [43] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: BPOs are for people who are too lazy to restock their basic fits. I have 10 thousand basic fits. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Ku Shala Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 881	Posted - 2014.02.24 14:55:00 - [44] - Quote BPO = reward for playing this broken game for so long..... ( Who else is missing like a million kills from playing skimish in the begining?) *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä* The States Necromancer Scan Attempt Prevented
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3522	Posted - 2014.02.24 18:32:00 - [45] - Quote Might be worth adding that the "Templar" stuff in particular is special because they represent the only BPO set of stuff that didn't exist pre-uprising. Every other BPO suit or weapon you could technically get prior to when the game launched (Dren was the first BPO STD Heavy, but that Heavy type existed prior to launch). Then AFTER the game launched with slick Gallente suits, Amarr Medium suits, etc.... they proceeded to release a bunch of packs with Caldari Assault BPO suits (Dragonfly, Covenant, Dren) that most people already had access to prior. The Dren set is particularly interesting because it has four suits... which just happen to be the same damn race/role combos everyone already had access to before launch. But the TEMPLAR... oh baby, a logi that isn't Minny and an assault that isn't Caldari. If they were still making/releasing NEW cosmetically different STD suit BPOs, I'd probably still be giving them money. I say probably, because it would've been nice if they'd actually mixed things up a bit. They released a "blood raider" suit (covenant) that was Caldari instead of Amarr despite the fact that Blood Raider ships are Amarr. How many Caldari Assault BPO types exist relative to everything else? I don't need another Caldari Assault BPO (I have like... 4), and I don't even play Caldari. It's also a bit stupid that the penultimate reward for recruiting 50 people to Dust happens to also be.... a Caldari suit. The other suits you can unlock through the recruit system? Also Caldari. I'm not sure what the thinking was there, but it spits on the very concept of "racial" diversity to have the BPO releases so samey. People talked about that too, but I suppose it became a non-issue when they decided no-more-BPOs. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Leonid Tybalt Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 255	Posted - 2014.02.24 18:40:00 - [46] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? I want to know how the people are okay with disposable AUR items? Real money shouldn't have been on the battlefield in the first place. And why is that?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6987	Posted - 2014.02.24 18:55:00 - [47] - Quote One more thing to note about the advantages of BPOs over starter fits. The starter fits have no high-slots slots for Gallente at least (not sure about the other races). BPOs have all the slots they need regardless of race. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 261	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:15:00 - [48] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: BPOs are for people who are too lazy to restock their basic fits. The LAV would actually make sense cuz those things are annoying to recall and pay like 30k sik every match and it dies too quickly but the rest of the stuff is stupid. I don't think they're stupid. I purchased a whole bunch of BPO suits, equipment and weapons back in the day and haven't regretted once. While MLT and basic stuff costs pennies, BPOs literally cost nothing. SAVINGS! With my Dren Logi BPO, I get 3 (THREE) equipment slots. With the TTK as low as it is, there isn't much point in running anything higher than an MLT logi suit. And while you certainly can stack tons of mods on a proto suit, I look at is as paying 60some k isk for an extra equipment slot. shrug "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 691	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:26:00 - [49] - Quote i only miss my galente starter fit mlt lav.. not a bpo or cosmetic fan and dont have any intentions on buying a bpo suit. vehicles maybe but suits and weapons and such i dont have interest in.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2601	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:33:00 - [50] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: The Eristic wrote: Some of the prices being thrown around seem rather excessive if you do simple cost-benefit analysis. Now, I wouldn't mind having the full Templar set or LAV BPO, but I'll never run out of money regardless, and 50M+ for what is mostly Militia gear? Some of the named items will bring substantial money from the collectors, but I can't see the Mil Plate, for instance, bringing anything crazy. Yeah, I guess they might become significant when you have enough to build an entire fitting that you will actually run and you've gone broke from spamming proto/vehicles in pubs, but you might just as well run starter fits in most cases. Or, maybe if you die a lot. A LOT. The issue with starter fits is that they limit your fittings a little more than the BPO suits. With starter fits, you're unable to remove the starter modules and that alone hinders your fitting flexibility and those extra modules aren't always useful anyways. With BPO fits on the other hand, you can go to town with whatever setup you like that optimizes the low-tier suit without being forced to leave in useless modules. You can make a Duplicat of a Starter Fit, and remove a Yellow module from the duplicate, if there is a module on the Starter Fit that you donGÇÖt want. Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014

Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1072	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:40:00 - [51] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: Like for a assault rifle BPO, people are willing to pay millions but you could literally by like thousands of ARs (more than you can use) for that much money. No? AR BPO = whatever. Sentinel BPO HMG fit for the price of a STD HMG= amazing. Pure BPO shotty scout = amazing.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3526	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:43:00 - [52] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: One more thing to note about the advantages of BPOs over starter fits. The starter fits have no high-slots slots for Gallente at least (not sure about the other races). BPOs have all the slots they need regardless of race. The Starter Amarr fits have 2 highs and 0 lows. Yup.. no reps, no armor, no nothing. Go forth and armor tank without lows, Amarr! Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6988	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:53:00 - [53] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: The Eristic wrote: Some of the prices being thrown around seem rather excessive if you do simple cost-benefit analysis. Now, I wouldn't mind having the full Templar set or LAV BPO, but I'll never run out of money regardless, and 50M+ for what is mostly Militia gear? Some of the named items will bring substantial money from the collectors, but I can't see the Mil Plate, for instance, bringing anything crazy. Yeah, I guess they might become significant when you have enough to build an entire fitting that you will actually run and you've gone broke from spamming proto/vehicles in pubs, but you might just as well run starter fits in most cases. Or, maybe if you die a lot. A LOT. The issue with starter fits is that they limit your fittings a little more than the BPO suits. With starter fits, you're unable to remove the starter modules and that alone hinders your fitting flexibility and those extra modules aren't always useful anyways. With BPO fits on the other hand, you can go to town with whatever setup you like that optimizes the low-tier suit without being forced to leave in useless modules. You can make a Duplicat of a Starter Fit, and remove a Yellow module from the duplicate, if there is a module on the Starter Fit that you donGÇÖt want. They are still useless to me as starter fits if I can't fit any high-slot modules. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2246	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:58:00 - [54] - Quote BPO's should not even exist Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 893	Posted - 2014.02.24 19:58:00 - [55] - Quote Christiphoros von Poe wrote: Skinweaves are a sort of status marker. It proves that you are a closed beta vet... But not that anyone cares. i still run my skinweave suits when im going solo in pub matches YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Ku Shala Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 883	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:07:00 - [56] - Quote skinweave = cheapest av *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä* The States Necromancer Scan Attempt Prevented
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 200	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:20:00 - [57] - Quote I'm surprised we don't see more people complaining how BPOs going to mess up the market! (Back pre 1.6 that was a big topic) I guess they (The haters) realized that all the ISK being giving out for free to all the PC Corps locking districts has broken the economy far worse then these unlimited run BPOs ever will. All the no-risk free isk given away, hell I need to ask Dust Charts to see how bad the economic impact is going to be. I wish CCP would just announce it as a exploit already and bring the ban hammer down CCP Fox Four has yet to release the attackers in PC data dumps so us New Eden mercs can do the policing job for them. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
noobsniper the 2nd POISION ROSES Galactic Skyfleet Empire 179	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:21:00 - [58] - Quote Got dat raven assault bpo love it just call me scumbag noob MAG vet raven ftw
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11524	Posted - 2014.02.24 20:22:00 - [59] - Quote I'll tell you one thing Jihad Jeep would be a lot less scary without BPOs. <3 my Guristas Saga, I just wish I had a Baloch BPO instead because Gallente Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 58	Posted - 2014.02.24 21:37:00 - [60] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: BPO dropsuit....free BPO L.A.V...free BPO rifle...free 2x RE...8,000 Taking out half a million ISK worth of tank scrubbery for less than 10K? PRICELESS! I have exactly that same fitting.... Fossil? 1)My templar stuff kicks so much a$$. Red and goooooold FTW. 2) it gets bonuses... BPO ScR with prof 3 still shreds 3) *Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, says "fck you, douche" better than killing them in a free suit!** It's not free It either cost you $150 for the pack or 300m ISK for the code When I get killed in my STD suit by a guy in BPO's I just think .. ah .. he spent real money on that suit .. what a douche xD



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